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Panzera Breuer 42 Automatic Watch
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Panzera Breuer 42 Automatic Watch
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The Panzera Breuer 42 is functional, minimal, and timeless. It features slim stick markers (thicker at 3, 6, 9, and 12 o’clock) at each hour and svelte hands Read More
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keyboard_arrow_downjohnnyjohnny
132
Sep 3, 2017
while i nice bauhaus look, the movement is indefensible in any watch over $175 in my opinion.
1. seconds hand is 'indirect' drive, meaning with strong movement of the wrist the seconds hand will stutter and stop up to 2 seconds, though usually a bit less. while this does not affect accuracy, it is not something you pay for in even a $200 watch. 2. no hacking. the movement will not hack. meaning you cannot stop the watch and set the time...you need to set the time while running. again, something you might pay $100 to $150 for.
there are other things that could be mentioned, like a German sounding watch designed as if it is European/German (it is a wonderful case if you do like Bauhaus design, beautifully done) with the cheapest Citizen Japanese movement they make put into to it. rugged movement for sure, but anyone buying this watch is doing so for aesthetic reasons and the aesthetics don't add up, for me anyway.
also the lower beats per minute, which is not a deal breaker, but again something to be aware of...you will not be getting a nice sweeping seconds hand (especially if you shake your wrist). while that does possibly save wear on the movement over time, anyone buying a Bauhaus watch is into aesthetics, possibly, and the choppy seconds is not in that vein.
only the numbered issues are reasons that i would not purchase this piece at anything over $175 at most. the other two issues are something people should be aware of. i hate posting comments that may deter people from buying a watch here, as i love to support massdrop, but anything $200 or above for this piece is, again in my opinion, not supported. if Panzera wanted to command that type of money they could very easily have used the Miyota 9015 series caliber which does offer hacking, does not have a stuttering seconds hand, and offers a higher beats per minute sweep that matches an ETA movement. this is not a knock on massdrop, but the manufacturer which appears a bit greedy for what they are offering. the 9015 series movement would have set them back at most another $50 per watch at manufacturer's price, but would show some respect for the customer which i do not see here. the undiscounted price on their website is over $500, which is simply a ridiculous price made to be discounted, but even the $350 here, which is the going price or less everywhere else, is not a good deal unless you simply have to have this. i have bought lower grade miyota movements in a few watches for which i loved the design, but the stuttering seconds hand always reminds me what a mistake that was and i just don't wear them.
sorry to be a downer, but aimed more at the manufacturer on this one. why build what is truly a beautiful watch, and stick a mediocre engine in it, and then try and command a higher price from people who may not be aware of the lower specs?
1. seconds hand is 'indirect' drive, meaning with strong movement of the wrist the seconds hand will stutter and stop up to 2 seconds, though usually a bit less. while this does not affect accuracy, it is not something you pay for in even a $200 watch. 2. no hacking. the movement will not hack. meaning you cannot stop the watch and set the time...you need to set the time while running. again, something you might pay $100 to $150 for.
there are other things that could be mentioned, like a German sounding watch designed as if it is European/German (it is a wonderful case if you do like Bauhaus design, beautifully done) with the cheapest Citizen Japanese movement they make put into to it. rugged movement for sure, but anyone buying this watch is doing so for aesthetic reasons and the aesthetics don't add up, for me anyway.
also the lower beats per minute, which is not a deal breaker, but again something to be aware of...you will not be getting a nice sweeping seconds hand (especially if you shake your wrist). while that does possibly save wear on the movement over time, anyone buying a Bauhaus watch is into aesthetics, possibly, and the choppy seconds is not in that vein.
only the numbered issues are reasons that i would not purchase this piece at anything over $175 at most. the other two issues are something people should be aware of. i hate posting comments that may deter people from buying a watch here, as i love to support massdrop, but anything $200 or above for this piece is, again in my opinion, not supported. if Panzera wanted to command that type of money they could very easily have used the Miyota 9015 series caliber which does offer hacking, does not have a stuttering seconds hand, and offers a higher beats per minute sweep that matches an ETA movement. this is not a knock on massdrop, but the manufacturer which appears a bit greedy for what they are offering. the 9015 series movement would have set them back at most another $50 per watch at manufacturer's price, but would show some respect for the customer which i do not see here. the undiscounted price on their website is over $500, which is simply a ridiculous price made to be discounted, but even the $350 here, which is the going price or less everywhere else, is not a good deal unless you simply have to have this. i have bought lower grade miyota movements in a few watches for which i loved the design, but the stuttering seconds hand always reminds me what a mistake that was and i just don't wear them.
sorry to be a downer, but aimed more at the manufacturer on this one. why build what is truly a beautiful watch, and stick a mediocre engine in it, and then try and command a higher price from people who may not be aware of the lower specs?
johnnyjohnny
132
Sep 7, 2017
no...it is not steinhart...in fact you get the lowest prices from steinhart...they are a great watch...check them out
PetrosD
3702
Sep 7, 2017
johnnyjohnnyAgreed, at least if you are in the U.S. I was looking at Gnomon for a Steinhart and decided to check out Steinhart direct. When shipping to the U.S. you avoid the VAT price. Converting from Euros at the current exchange rate, Steinhart was cheaper than Gnomon. I purchased my Squale from Gnomon and had a good experience, but if I buy the Steinhart I'll probably buy direct.
Johhnyb
11
Sep 4, 2017
Got the regal already from another site but paid more.. bought it for the domed glass.. too many similar brands use flat glass which I didn't like
BobsDog
19
Sep 4, 2017
Thanks, yeah I have no issues with Miyota automatics got already a few models with them.... actually outperform another watch I own with an ETA 2824 movement and I paid a lot more for it.
NikoToscani
Sep 7, 2017
42 is way too big for a dress watch or non-sport, non-tool watch IMO. If this were b/w 38 and 40mm I'd consider it. Love the design of the watch but it's sized like a dinner plate and, given current trends (really a style-correction) oversized dress watches like these are just going to look silly in a year or two.
NikoToscani
Sep 8, 2017
It's hard to disagree with that comment. If you like the watch, buy it and enjoy it.
Kayenine
7
Jan 24, 2018
NikoToscaniYou might be surprised. I have skinny wrists and have avoided large watches forever but recently saw an ESQ watch which I thought was huge (at 44mm) on my wrist but have to say I fell in love with it and it is one of my favorites. Later I found the Sector at the same size and love that. Although I question making watch buying decisions based on perceived style trends versus your own personal tastes, if you're just looking for someone else's approval then perhaps better to be safe than sorry.
Farrago
184
Sep 3, 2017
Asking 350 for a mineral crystal watch with a 8-series miyota in it? that's rather ambitious
DrJenkins
13
Sep 5, 2017
I would rather have mineral crystal on a curved glass than sapphire. Mineral cystal is less likely to shatter than sapphire when glass is domed like on this, although less scratch resistant
Farrago
184
Sep 5, 2017
DrJenkinsi find its much easier to be mindful of not getting into shattering type situations, but scratching situations are much harder to avoid. that is to say, its more likely that i might graze a wall or door frame when im swinging my arm past it than me impacting the watch face on
tony.hill
96
Oct 29, 2018
Arthur_PhDMiyota 9 series, sapphire glass and 100m WR. A better watch for sure.
Ferrari77
38
Apr 6, 2018
I like the the curved glass thin bezel combo, looks very smart... I got the Panzera pilot watch recently, so not sure I can convince/justify another watch purchase to the wife...... MD can you please call her and explain? :)
RobertJ
1
Sep 5, 2017
ZimmerBased on my experience with there larger 44mm watch I would say absolutely yes.. the build quality is up there with my IWC in terms of solid feel, case, strap and so forth... also the accuracy is better than on my portofino which is rather annoying and that cost me $$$ thousands.
JacksonMZL
19
Jan 24, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=190&v=qVUQ3L_rQZk
If you're skeptical about the size, check this video out. It's not quite as big as I initally thought.
If you're skeptical about the size, check this video out. It's not quite as big as I initally thought.
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