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Sierra Designs Backcountry Bed 700fp Sleeping Bags

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Anyone have experience with the Duo? Is it backless like BA's design and needs highly insulated pads?
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Thanks that's what I needed to know. I have a Nemo Tango Duo 30 that is also backless. We have uninsulated pads so anything less than 40 degrees and our backs were cold. I'm looking at insulated pads, but with failure rates of air pads, I'd still rather have some sleeping bag insulation in case of pad failure. The other odd component with pads, is the tapered nature. With my Nemo, if I use tapered pads there is an awkward space that lets in the cold and separate bags/pads would be better. So this solutions seems dependent on non-tapered pads.
Cbslc
I've been using NeoAirs for years, no punctures ever, despite sharing the space with two dogs. I carry a patch kit with me, but I've never had to use it. The NeoAir Xtherms are made with a higher denier fabric, if you are worried about durability. The Xtherm MAX line is rectangular-- no tapering whatsoever :-)
Here's hoping they will bring out the 850 fill up Regular one in a future Massdrop! Their warning about the comfort level of this bag has me a bit worried that I won't find it warm enough. 2 seasons means summer and ?
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clmdvd
I got this on a previous drop and it's great until temps start approaching the freezing point. They suggest 3C as the comfort limit but it's more like 8C.
clmdvd
If you take a SOL thermal bivvy about 8oz I was comfortable in the mid 20s light snow on the ground Just saying
Maybe I'm not reading it, but does the sleeping bag come with the sleeping pad or is that purchased separate?
OFTHEHILLPEOPLE
Sleeping pad is not included, but I can see the confusion given the naming. Thanks for asking!
Long is a little more on Amazon, regular is 119 on Prime.
I’ve owned one of these for a few years now. Best bag I’ve ever used—even picked up the warmer one for colder trips. Wish I could go back in time and get this price. If they ever had the 850 fill up, I’d jump in. Best bag I’ve ever used.
I would join the drop also if I could get a regular.
Says the regular is sold out, though it's below the drop limit. Any help? Would like to join but long is too big for me
The latest comment seems to be 16 weeks ago. Is this drop active, and if so, when does it end?
SpringerMike
Hey Mike! The drop is indeed active and you can see the remaining time on the right above "Join Drop".
Yes, we would like to know what happened!
Was depending on this for a backpacking trip in late April. Pretty disappointed it fell through. Wish I could get my hands on one of the Massdrop 800 fill down quilts or something instead. But I know that's a pretty slow process as well even if a drop came up.
What happened here? Woke to find a PayPal refund for this purchase I made over a month ago! Disappointed to say the least. Third time out of four purchases something went wrong. Looks to me Massdrop is losing it's lustre? Still waiting for another purchase made last month as well. I doubt if I'll ever make another. Good luck guys!
Really disappointed that this drop fell through. I thought that the point of Massdrop was that they had already talked to the vendor and had things lined up to go.
Are these sold out again post 10 quantity extensions?
I'm new to Massdrop and painfully-late to this listing. Can I sign up on a "waitlist" or get notified when this might be available again?
I'm longing for the Men's Long bag...
What's the difference between this and the other Sierra Designs sleeping bag offered on Massdrop(600F 2 Season)?
Herp_McDerp
This one has a quilt style closure whereas the Zissou has a zip closure. I have this bag and love it during the fall and spring where it can be a bit on the cold side but not bone chilling. You have to practice sleeping it in to be honest, and make sure to lay in one at a store so you know your size. I purchased a the Long/Wide version as i'm 6'5" and athletic build, but the Long size is just a bit too long as i have too much head room and cannot keep the warmth inside.
wolfgangwalrus
Quick question - what is the insulation like on the back of the bed? (where it rests against your sleeping pad.) Is it similar to a quilt with light or no insulation? Or is it more like a traditional bag with fully insulation? @solistca +solistca
What is the difference in the cut of the women's and men's bags? I realize that the length is shorter. The reason I ask is that I'm 5'4" and 145 lbs. and tend to sleep cold. The length and added warmth of the women's version seems to be a better fit but I was worried that the design around the shoulders might be tighter than normal? Is the women's version actually a warmer bag? How much loft does it have?
Any chance I can get another stuff sack?
I have this bed and love it
Not sure how you claim MSRP at $349.95 and a 50% savings. Sierra Design's own web site list it at $319.00 with free shipping.
Same Specifications as you list: EN Comfort Limit:38oF / 3oC EN Lower Limit:29oF / -2oC Fits To:Men's Regular: 6 ft / 182 cm Men's Long: 6 ft 6 in. / 198 cm Fill Weight:Men's Regular: 13.0 oz. / 0.37 kg Men's Long: 14.4 oz. / 0.41 kg Trail Weight:Men's Regular: 2 lbs / 0.91 kg Men's Long: 2 lbs 3 oz. / 0.99 kg
Not saying you still offer a decent discount over Sierra Design list price, but the facts suggest the full offer is not as presented.
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MSRP is (with few exceptions) consistent, whereas street price elsewhere is hugely variable considering shipping methods, state tax laws, international shipping, ability to ship to said locations, special sign up discounts or incentive programs, credit card rebates, and sunk cost of $100 a year for Prime Membership. So, it would be impossible to state competitive price, whereas MSRP is clear, obvious and consistent.
Before we start any drop, we price check to make sure we are offering the best value to our members. If a brand has good control over their distribution, then the street price will be at MSRP for 90-95% of the year. So, for most of the companies we work with, MSRP is generally also street price. And when it's not, then it's usually on sale everywhere. Outdoor products tend to go on sale at around the same time - Presidents and MLK day weekends for winter, leading up to Memorial Day and July 4, post- Labor Day, and Black Friday.
Other industries (maybe tech and edc?) probably have street prices that are nearly *always* lower than MSRP, so I could see you having an issue there. We run into that with a few brands. Morakniv comes to mind. But go check on something from Black Diamond, Petzl, Icebreaker, Mountain Hardwear . . . and you might find a sale on some odd sizes or colors, especially last year's products, but in general you'll find that all stores are selling the rest of the products at full MSRP.
I think what @Jeff-in was getting at is that listing the MSRP is straightforward and free of any tinkering by us. It's stated by the manufacturer, and if they change it, then we do too, as do all retailers. However if we listed street price, What shipping location would we choose? Someone in CA or Alaska or Colorado, and do we include Prime, which costs $100? Would you trust our "street price"? And what if that price changed in the time we did our research to the time the drop actually started - would that be false advertising? Could we get in trouble for it?
Finally, I'd be interested to hear your perspective on the value of discussion across different communities. I generally find that the Ultralight and Outdoors discussions are fairly positive and informing. Would you agree? Are other communities different?
Thanks for posting and I do hope you find value in what we're doing here!
DannyMilks
Missed your reply previously Danny, sorry for the delay in response. I still enjoy the community aspect of this site as it can bring together a variety of individuals with a wealth of experiential knowledge in various hobbyist arenas. I do feel it has taken a decidedly downward turn over the last 6 months or so in the product discussion threads. I think the Audiophile community was the first to go. In fact there is one particular poster over there that I know has been banned from every major audio enthusiast website on the internet but continues to be allowed to spew his BS and hate here. I get it, posters are also customers, but allow me to ignore his sorely limited view of the world via a block button. The Tech community can also be quite a mess depending on the nature of the drop (PC parts come to mind as a serious offender). I've recently noticed this activity occurring in the Ultralight and Outdoors sections but not to the level of the aforementioned communities. Perhaps a required Read Me (unskippable) page for new users might greatly dispel a lot of the inane comments about MSRP, shipping times, why you only have certain colors/sizes etc... I've tried explaining MSRP, MAP, Street Price/Retail Price in several different discussions as well as the general business model/paradigm of obtaining the products that are dropped here. It only led to inflammatory responses by people claiming what you do with MSRP is similar to what Kohls did with "sales" (in which they claimed a regular price that they had never offered the product at to create a false sense of savings). I agree MSRP is standardized and typically easily cross-referenced but it confuses the living crap out of the laymen that lack the education regarding pricing models and the desire to do some research. You and the rest of the team were extremely responsive in the two instances I've seen where a MSRP was in fact incorrect. I've also seen the team "cave-in" to vehement posters who were out and out wrong but refused to back down.
A lot of the times I feel Mark Twain was spot on when he said, " Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you to their level and beat you with experience."
Thanks for soliciting the input, I will continue to be a customer... just not sure how much longer I will continue to post if the discussion is going to be nothing but people arguing about MSRP, shipping times that haven't changed since the drop was listed and the personal attacks/political agendas.
"not"
LOVE this design!!! But, now warm enough. :(
Would have loved to get in on this drop, but the men's regular is all sold out. Hopefully Massdrop can get more quanities next time! Certainly a good price.
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@mwoody There was a mix up with the vendor, and while we thought more Men's regular were available, it turns out they could only allocate more of the Men's long. I'm trying to get my hands on 600F for a drop next week...but I realize that doesn't help you out with this drop.
PaigeD
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This arrived the other day and both my wife and I have checked it out. I suspect this one will go tot he wife and I will order the long. Even though I am only 70inches tall, I found that with my post knee replacement range of motion it is hard to get in and out of. I simply cannot bend my knee enough inside the bag to get my foot out. Not a big deal, som shimmying will scoot me up hight enough to do so. but between that and the fact that I like to sleep on my side with my arm extended, the extra space will probably be of benefit. We both loved the bag and the lack of claustrophobic feel cannot be understated. I wish I had found this years ago. Packs down fine in its included bag, but will need to get a compression sack for backpacking.
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Bulk order shipped! The vendor informed us that the group's order was picked up and is on its way to our warehouse in New Jersey. Based on the tracking provided, the order is scheduled to arrive on 12/6.
Expect another update from us on 12/9 or sooner if something comes up.
If you have any questions, please visit our Help Center (https://massdrop.com/helpcenter).
Thanks again for joining this drop! We have submitted the group's order with the vendor for the Sierra Designs Backcountry Bed 600F 2 Season and they are working hard to prepare it for shipment.
As soon as the group's order is ready at the vendor's location, they will send the bulk shipment to our warehouse in New Jersey where our warehouse team will break it up into individual orders and ship them. The current estimated ship date from our warehouse is 12/6.
We will keep the group updated throughout the fulfillment process. You can expect an update from us by the end of the day Pacific Time on 11/29.
If you have any questions, please visit our Help Center (http://massdrop.com/helpcenter).
What would be the best compression stuff sack to pair with this? I feel that the stuff sack it comes with will be too large for me.
timetoknapp
I use the smallest (6 Liter) sea to summit eVent stuffsack for mine, it's a great fit.
adeadhead
thank you so much this helped out a lot.
Thanks for addressing my concern, Danny. I noticed that the regular size says it will accommodate a 20" wide sleeping pad, while the large will handle a 25" wide pad. I purchased the Klymit Static V from Massdrop earlier this year, which is 23" wide. This makes me think I should size up, even though, at 5'10", the regular should easily accommodate me. I was wondering if the pocket will actually allow a wider pad, since someone else commented that the pad sleeve handled their 3" deep pad, even though it only said it would handle 2.5".  One of the reasons I'm attracted to this bag is that the sleeve will keep the bag on the pad. Does anyone know if the Klymit Static V will fit in the pad sleeve?
T.Warren
ugh, I just wanted to say I've had bad luck with my kymit static v mattresses...I've popped two now and I weigh under 2 hundo.
m0arpheus
Hmm, I haven't had a problem and I weigh 245. My Klymit Static V was just fine on a 9 day backpacking & camping trip last summer. I always use a footprint under my tent or place it under my bag if staying in a shelter.
Hello MassDrope people
much like the comment i got an email today telling me that I had a day to join. I go to join and am told the drop has closed. Is there a way for me to join in?
Rurik
@Rurik - You can join now. There was a glitch that kept the drop page from showing for a few hours. Thanks for the post.
What gives? I checked this out yesterday. Today I receive an email from Massdrop, asking if I'm still interested because the drop ends in one more day. I get back on the site, only to find that the drop has ended. Why send the email then? You tell me I have 1 more day, but ...
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T.Warren
@TY @Rurik @T.Warren You can join now! Sorry for the miscommunication. Drop ends today.
T.Warren
Just ordered thanks