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SMSL M6 DAC/Amp

SMSL M6 DAC/Amp

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Does anyone's remote just NOT work? Mine is completely inert
Just received an email, my SMSL M6 just shipped.
Love it just got mine yesterday, there are different PCM filters, screen dimming settings, and a setting to change the colour of the sound 4 different ways. The instuctions don't describe the diffference between the colours, does anybody know the difference?
wow this isnt very powerful for the retail price, is there any other redeeming factor?
Does anyone have an issue of this disconnecting from Windows 10 machines after going afk for awhile? I normally have to reboot the device or unplug the usb for it to redetect it
Received a bad unit. No matter what I did I couldn’t get the USB to work. Driver installation would always fail since the unit couldn’t be detected in Windows. I even tried using different USB cables and ports, and that had no effect. Then I tried using the SPDIF but there was barely any volume when I maxed it out. For some reason my M6 would only go to a max volume of 40 instead of 60 and never made any relay clicks when switching inputs. Submitted a ticket to helpdesk@massdrop.com in hopes of an exchange or refund.
This is a HEADPHONE amp. An AMP can power a pair of (passive) speakers. Get your terminology straight Massdrop!
Not a joystick fan, but that seem to be where things are going...
Anyone know of Harmony remoted can work with this?
Wrong spec:
  • Output power: 130 W
GunGrave87
Agreed , should state 130 Megawatts
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uh, wait, I mean milliwatts....
Looking at the msrp, does this compare with a modi+magni?
robertorrw
im not sure dac wise, but the magni is much much more powerful
Got this a few days ago. It is the new version (http://www.smsl-audio.com/productshow.asp?id=115) with pre out, DSD capability, and a TDK display. It will decode an ISO file. I find the the audio quality to be truly excellent. I also find that it pairs well with Beyer DT 660s (32 ohm impedence!?). I can detect no grounding problems connecting (pre) with Little Dot (talkaplan4474). I am very impressed. Hats off for SMSL. I think people are going to be very happy. I am.
A few questions:
1) How's this measure up to the objective stack, in terms of fidelity and soundstage? I'm trying to figure out whether the O stack would just be a sidegrade.
2) What op-amps does this thing run? I don't have the right sort of screwdriver to disassemble mine, and I can't find a spec sheet.
3) Info on amp class (A, B, AB, etc) would also be much appreciated.
I had the M6 for quite some time, I've upgraded since to the Schiit Jotunheim which is truely amazing. The M6 was definitely one of the best buys I made, it's a really good value for money, in my opinion it takes both the Fulla 2 and the Audioengine D1 which I also own by having more clarity. The only thing that annoyed me a little is that it doesn't play nice with my tube amplifier I tried connecting it to a Little Dot MK IV SE but there was a lot of static noise to a level of being unusable I figured it must be because tube amplifiers are much more sensitive and prone to having static, but it seems to have something to do with grounding (this uses standard 2 prongs 100V-240V AC to 12V DC without any third grounding prong) with other amplifiers which are not tube amplifiers it worked just fine. I would definitely recommend this to anyone wanting a nice entry amplifier to the world of headphones amplifiers, it can drive almost any headphone even the more demanding HD6XX which has 300 ohms of impedance. Note that out of the box on windows it only support up to 32 bit with up to 192Khz and in order to get 384Khz you have to use DSD (not that much of headache). Also I had the older model of the M6 with the only difference that the newer model (this model) has a remote which is a really nice touch instead of pushing the tiny joystick to use it.
talkaplan4474
i believe hd6xx is 300ohms
Onslash
You are correct my mistake, haven't even noticed that I wrote 600 instead of 300...
How would this compare to, lets say a Fulla 2? Especially given that the Fulla uses AKM4490 whereas this only has a 4452 (and Amazon lists this as having a 4390EF)
profsnow
I believe the newer model uses the 4452, while the previous model used the 4390EF. The 4390EF didn't support native DSD.
should i use the XMOS (m6 Remote control version) or the CMEDIA (m6 Driver) driver??
I got one of these on Sep 7, 2016 for $134.99. Last month it started randomly going quiet, a couple times per week, requiring a manual power cycle. Today it died. It worked and sounded great while it lasted, but keep in mind that it may not survive more than 2 years. The manufacturer only honors warranty for 1 year, so I'm out of luck.
This versus Topping D30 and A30? Last Topping drop was delayed and I have the option to cancel it now. Is the SMSL better?
Pairing with HD6XX and Denon D7100.
SMSL M6 with Yamaha HS8 Pair, will it be any good?
hardik
would like to know as well... I have the JBL LSR 308
In Ebay it cost even less with free delivery... What is going on?
HIFI778
Link?
This against Schiit? I'm looking for an amp for my HD6XX.
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kokkat
Don't work for me, my address for Massdrop is in Miami.
Been on the Tidal free trial, when I choose exclusive streaming and Passthrough MQA and the device defaults to 24bit/48kHz - does this mean that MQA is being passed through WASAPI direct to device (digital MQA audio transfer?)
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Right, but jury is still out for mqa as a format...it is not lossless so it's questionable whether there is any benefit over flac. Also, some audiophiles have noted that software decoding of mqa has no noticeable difference to their ears. This is all the more concerning for mqa as a format.
muggy
I agree on MQA format debate. Some people say its awesome, some people say worse. it comes down to user preference.
As far as what kind Gear to pick, I rather have hardware that can take full advantage. Passthrough that you are mentioning is suppose to done by hardware. Good luck with you finding right Dac for your need
So mines in Germany? its been in Germany the last five days with no shipping updates. local nor dhl. final dest is AU. this happening with anyone else or just me?
cukumbermouth
Still the same? My little dot mkii is in the same situation:(
Heavyboxer
yeah so mine showed up yesterday. it was in Germany for about 12 days.
Is anyone having trouble setting the M6 to play flac files with higher bitrate? I can only set mine to 16bit/48kHz on the mac. Running audirvana on a mac mini 10.10 yosemite
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I'm sure my Mac mini'snusb ports are all USB2.0 And according to the site, Mac do not need to install extra drivers. I'm quite lost here.
JeremyChen
Some Mac Mini's have USB 3.0 ports, especially those that come with Yosemite 10.10 installed. It would be worth double-checking if you haven't already.
Is it any good for DT990 600 Ohm cans?
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ProRules
600 Ohm cans will be pushing it beyond its range. If you are not in a hurry, wait for the Aune X1s (10th Annie Ed.) drop. You will be in a different league for spending $65 more.
kokkat
Ended up getting a Schitt stack. Works wonderful!
I have the Takstar Pro 82 that is only 32ohm, is the headphone 10 ohm output impedance going to cause any sort of problem? How about IEM by Audio Technica that is also 32ohm?
This Vs. Alientek D8 (XMOS) ? D8 has much lower price and better design.
Edit : power output also the same, 32 ohm, 130 mW .
Great amp would highly recommend. Able to drive a wide variety of headphones including HD650 well. DAC is clear and amp is very clean, would compare to O2/ODAC in terms of sound. I was apprehensive of buttons before buying but actually quite like them along with the digital display so I know what volume works well with different sets. Easy to set-up in PC and has a number of inputs that are easy to switch between. For this price highly recommend.
I'm finding some mixed info in the comments, but for the Sennheiser 6XX, out of the three, what would you pick? The SMSL M6 DAC/Amp, the O2 DAC + O2 Amp stack, or the Schiit Modi 2 + Magni 3? I mean, I would honestly like to save some money, but if having the O2 stack or the Schiit stack is much better, then I guess I'll save up for that.
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dwang040
I bought schiit stack after long research.No regret.
Just saw a review of the M6 on YouTube. Long story short, You will need precise measurement equipment to find a difference between the DACs. Where You will find a difference is the amp. However, this should be sufficient to drive the HD6XX, even if not to earbleeding levels. IMHO, if You need more than 90 dB on the HD6XX, You chose the wrong headset and should have gone for a closed back ones.
Im completely new to Dac/ Amps so i got a question: can a dac amp combo Funktion as both or only for one at the time?
Colm4g
combos can typically function as both dac & amp combo (always), or just dac, or just amp.