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Caldera cone with alcohol burner, mostly. Not that some winter folks might not take a canister stove in winter, they surely might. Its just that this stove "predominantly" belongs in the "Outdoors" category - if you're gonna have dual categories, which I think Massdrop should not.
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Really?!? Elitist? Sure, I get annoyed when stuff in marketed poorly. I guess that kinda makes me sort of a marketing elitist. Can't comment on the boring part, but probably fits. Ultralight elitist? Well, if I had actually said that these stoves were "disqualified from the ultralight club", or anything like it, then yeah, I would be an ultralight elitist! But I didn't say that, you did. I only pointed out that the product was in the Ultralight category and not the Outdoors category, whereas its mostly an Outdoors product vs being strictly considered an Ultralight product. Did you get the nuance there?
I'm going to take your sensitivity like I would take what I hear from a woman and regurgitate it a little, slosh it around in my brain, and come up the actual implied meaning, which I presume to be the fact that you just don't like me acting like I'm the Massdrop product police or something. Which, frankly, I get. I'll go to direct email next time. I'm out on this one.
I'm going to take your sensitivity like I would take what I hear from a woman and regurgitate it a little, slosh it around in my brain, and come up the actual implied meaning, which I presume to be the fact that you just don't like me acting like I'm the Massdrop product police or something. Which, frankly, I get. I'll go to direct email next time. I'm out on this one.
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I lied. OK, let me say that at my age, I'll take the reference to a 19yr old hipster any day.
I really and truly did not mean to bring any elitism into my point about the two categories and this product. You're not the only one to have a problem with the point I made, so I apologize for making it in a product discussion and again, I'll email Massdrop directly next time.
Besides that acknowledgment, I'd also like to apologize for my sexist comment. I routinely joke about this type of thing with my wife, but it doesn't belong in an open discussion like this as it can be - and likely was - offensive to some.
I do want to point out that two things bothered me with your posts, the first being that you stated - or at least insinuated - that alcohol stoves can't be used in winter, but then you dismiss what I know a number of hikers use in winter with alcohol. I use alcohol in the winter without the Caldera system and its ok. I have to keep the alcohol warm overnight, but it works, if not as well as a canister stove system. The latter point being why I was even noticing this stove and its category placement to begin with.
Secondly, you pretty much misstated my point. Go back and read, I said nothing about canister stoves not being something that can be used in an ultralight setup. Yeah, I kinda don't like when people twist my words around, and as a result, I reacted poorly. This time I am out.
I really and truly did not mean to bring any elitism into my point about the two categories and this product. You're not the only one to have a problem with the point I made, so I apologize for making it in a product discussion and again, I'll email Massdrop directly next time.
Besides that acknowledgment, I'd also like to apologize for my sexist comment. I routinely joke about this type of thing with my wife, but it doesn't belong in an open discussion like this as it can be - and likely was - offensive to some.
I do want to point out that two things bothered me with your posts, the first being that you stated - or at least insinuated - that alcohol stoves can't be used in winter, but then you dismiss what I know a number of hikers use in winter with alcohol. I use alcohol in the winter without the Caldera system and its ok. I have to keep the alcohol warm overnight, but it works, if not as well as a canister stove system. The latter point being why I was even noticing this stove and its category placement to begin with.
Secondly, you pretty much misstated my point. Go back and read, I said nothing about canister stoves not being something that can be used in an ultralight setup. Yeah, I kinda don't like when people twist my words around, and as a result, I reacted poorly. This time I am out.
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I think most Massdrop visitors probably know by now to check both categories to see all outdoor gear, but its kind of a pain. This is light camping gear that someone perusing the "Outdoors" category would probably be interested in, but unless they additionally click on "Ultralight", they may not know its available as a drop. Again, make this one category.