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Tex Yoda II TrackPoint Mechanical Keyboard Kit

Tex Yoda II TrackPoint Mechanical Keyboard Kit

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would you still get the stabilizers if you picked the no switches option?
Or buy an authentic IBM, now Lenovo, for $50 aready built. This is a nice idea, but it looks like someone is trying to reap a giant profit rather than share a cool idea with the enthusiasm community.
This is available for cheaper on MechanicalKeyboards.com https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=3417 Dunnot what to do about this Massdrop one. :-/
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Ah, I missed that. Thanks!
It's still ridiculous though. Why would I pay Massdrop the same amount of money for the privilege of waiting three months?
Is it possible to turn this into a HHKB layout? Looking at the PCB image it looks like you can have the \ and ` key where the "Backspace" is and turn the "\" key into backspace. Would be awesome to have HHKB layout with trackpoint.
Rule of Massdrop: If I like a keyboard, it will cost at least $230
260 and doesn't offer double shot PBT. Kinda disappointed.
shuvomiah
I feel like they're expecting 260 for a TrackPoint...
Why can not we buy just the trackpoint module ?
dwa4
Not any "official" answer, but I just assembled one (it's great!) and the trackpoint is designed to mount through their keyboard, with custom mount points and signal connector. It would be a major hassle to try to figure out how to reuse it - it is very customized for their physical and electrical mounting. On top of that, trackpoints are very much dependent on software, and their trackpoint is much better than the junk I've gotten from Dell and HP (and even better than early IBM trackpoints). So, yeah, their keyboard layout could be better (60% always has too few keys). But to somebody like me, who wants a good trackpoint, buying this is an easy decision.
Would love something like this in a 75% or a tkl. If my race3 had a trackpoint it would be the perfect keyboard
I was just about to write a happy message about that this time the layout was clearly stated, a thing I have been complaining about on other drops, where it was not clearly stated... But then I double checked the images... You state that it is only ANSI layout. But the images show ISO compatibility on the plate and ISO keycaps... *sigh*
BitLuder
Thanks mentioning this @BitLuder. I can see they keycaps required for an ISO layout, however I am curious how you made the deduction with the plate (please excuse my ignorance, I am new at this).
escapewq
It has to do with the shape of the cutout for the switshes. ANSI-enter sits in line with the rest of they keys. ISO has its switch for enter between two rows. So when a plate supports both, there will be a strange cutout that spans two rows.
Way too rich for my blood at the moment
Expensive considering the Kodachi is 90$ more but with hopefully with better keycaps, aluminium case, etc.
tanega
7 rows is a lot desk space. 5+ rows, non plastic wrist rests, and red nipples.
Got my keyboard assembled, keys all seem to work, but backlight is inert. I got out a volt meter and checked the LEDs and it looks like they are completely floating -- no drive voltage. Am I missing something simple?
dbc0
After looking around the keyboard configurator, I found the Fn keys that adjust LED brightness. The keyboard initially defaults to all LEDs off. Hope that helps somebody.
Got it all assembled. Absolutely love it. And the trackpoint is great for my use. (I spend a lot of time in vi and need to switch windows constantly, I also deliver a lot of Powerpoints.) Still experimenting with key layout. Here it is on my lap with my Macbook.
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I mapped the arrow keys to avoid using function since the Mac desktops/workspaces can be switched with control-arrow, and I use those a lot. I'm also experimenting with backspace and left shift - to see if I can get used to the smaller keys. I may convert those back to single keys. Right now the only thing I'm missing is pgup and pgdown, since I sometimes use those when I present Powerpoint slide decks. If only there were one more column of keys... I'm making this my daily driver - my Das, Realforce, Filco, and Happy Hacker now sitting on a shelf. The trackpoint is just too good for the others to compete.
Mine just arrived. Starting to assemble it, and realizing that experience assembling electronics isn't the same as assembling a keyboard. I've struggled to figure out what a stabilizer does - and that orientation matters for the internal plastic piece, the metal piece, and how it snaps together properly. Then I was about to assemble with the metal plate above the switches - thinking it was there to hold them down during assembly - but now I'm thinking that's wrong and it goes below - though I'm mystified by the function it serves going under the switches. The space bar is another odd component - but I think I've figured out which space bar aligns with which switch holes and stabilizer holes. Kind of wish I didn't have to guess at all these things. Some basic instructions would have been nice. But I'm still loving it...having a trackpoint again is worth all this struggle.
MrTonyD
Sadly, “we’re sure you can figure it out” seems to be the standard for keyboard kits. On the positive side, there are lots of useful posts on Reddit, GeekHack, DeskThority, and other sites (and videos/pictures) that can help you figure things out.
fuck i totally missed that, need this for my couch computer. does it work on a raspberry pie?
Is there a way to get back light on this keyboard?
Is it as simple as buying new switches and key caps? Not sure if the board supports back light.
w360
That will cost another $100. Sorry.
w360
A serious response (I know it comes late, but relevant information for the next drop regardless: I can see holes for the LEDs in the PCB. That means that as long as you buy LEDs and solder them into those holes the right way round (long leg is positive) and activate LEDs using the right shortcut to turn them on/off, they will work. So backlighting is a quick and easy mod. If you can solder the switches in, adding LEDs is not harder or easier. Your switches will need a gap for the LEDs to poke through, but I think just about all come that way. Hope this helps.
I really loved this keyboard. Sadly, the trackpoint stick broke within the first couple months of daily use.
Could just have been my bad experience, so I won't tell people off this drop; just meant to offer one bit of experience.
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Honestly, I didn't even reach out to them to try and get it replaced. After spending so long soldering to get it put together, that a component would break so quickly mostly removed my confidence in the product.
Like I said, I love the idea, I just didn't have a good experience with it.
halosghost
A friend of mine also accidentally busted his trackpoint module during a move. He contacted Tex and got a replacement very quickly -- you should go ahead and get yours working again.
Would be great if there was a tool or service that could make keycaps compatible with this keyboard.
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Do you have any pics of how it turned out?
McDoogle
Here it is. You have to look really close to see that my cuts aren't perfect, which is why I didn't bother making them look perfect.
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Here is a video review of the keyboard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyKQfuBmsyg.
If this was 70% I'd replace my thinkpad compact at work.
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Pressing two keys is really annoying when you can just press one key. I do agree having the F-key within reach is nice, which is why I like the compact layouts that get rid of the gaps between the F-keys (tried one of those 75% keyboads, really nice). Personally that's the lowest compromise I'd go for.
yslee
I think the argument in favor of modifiers and layers is that you can stay on the home row. Which is also the argument for the trackpoint. Not saying that this argument applies to every use case, but I do think that 60% may be an ideal solution for many users.
Since its a kit do Khail navy box also fit?
denym
Yes, can't see any reason, that they're not going to work.
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dvorcol
It’s a poke ball
"[...] ranging from different layouts (ANSI, ISO, DIY, etc.) "
I'm slightly irritated that you state ISO support in the drop text, but dont offer the layout in the drop itself. No international love? Come on guys!
Edit: I see the kit includes a ISO enter, but I was thinking about specific keys because of the track-point etc. Thus not allowing an aftermarket kit.
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Wow, I'm actually blind, I see that there is the ISO enter there. Ordered :)
Thanks for pointing it out :D
ZeroCool
You're welcome and have fun.
Why no ISO layout? We get left out every time :C
Is there any reason why we can't pay more and have this pre-assembled?
lastzero
We can work on a separate drop :)
If this were bluetooth/wireless, I would lose my shit.
Just in case, someone doesn't know. Tex Kodachi, even pricier, but for fans (maybe) worth it.
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https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=4260
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Makami
Drooling over both the M6 and the Keyboard.
Makami
The keycaps in the photo you posted looked unique to me based on the shape of the dish. But looking at another picture on the MechanicalKeyboards website, it seems they are DSA.
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Does anyone use this keyboard with Linux OS? If so, have you ever passed the USB device to a KVM VM successfully?
FaceMcBashy
I assume by USB device you are referring to the storage device used to upload the configuration? If so it is the same as any flash drive or other storage device. I admit I have not tried to pass this specific device through KVM though, I don't see why it wouldn't work.
As for using it on Linux, everything seems to work fine. The USB device is just flash memory formatted in vfat so you can mount it and upload the configuration without a windows VM (in case that's what you were trying to do). You just have to set the dip switches in the correct configuration. All off except for 6.
When I soldered this thing together, it worked, but once I mounted it in the aluminum chassis, and mounted the keycaps, the D and F key flash twice when plugged in, and then go very dim.
Help?
Does anyone know about the origin and makeup of the actual TrackPoint in this? Is it the same as the TrackPoint on a ThinkPad? Notably:
1. Is it based on a rigid Strain Gauge or movable Force Sensitive Resistor? 2. Does it have the ThinkPad programming and motion algorithms?
I worked with the inventor of the TrackPoint at the IBM Almaden Research Center, and I worked on some of the advanced motion algorithms that Lenovo inherited when they split off the ThinkPad business from IBM in the 90's. If it has these algorithms and ergonomics, it's very interesting. If not, it's not worth it for the "TrackPoint."
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Thanks for the info. Actually Tex Kodachi looks really good -- has the cursor and function keys that I need. Only drawback is that in emulating the ThinkPad keyboard they swapped the Ctrl and Fn keys. Of course it's programmable, and hopefully that extends to Fn key/Fn lock functionality (since they don't throw keycodes but modify other keys directly). Also, I'd hope they supply replacement keycaps for Ctrl and Fn because you can't swap them, being of different sizes. I've got to see if there's a discussion for the Kodachi.
DeviceNode
I've always been curious about the difference between thinkpad trackpoints and others. I once had a Dell with Trackpoint and it was completely unusable - and I've used thinkpad trackpoints for well over a decade. I noticed that the acceleration on my thinkpad would start slow, then speed up. It seemed to have a deceleration curve too. But there must be much more than that, I would think. Is the difference mostly mechanical? How complex are the algorithms? Are they more empirical - with lots of heuristic variables for tuning? Why is it so hard for everybody else to get it right?