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Violectric Audio HPA V90 Headphone Amplifier

Violectric Audio HPA V90 Headphone Amplifier

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I am in Turkey and I received mine today. Unfortunately there were no power cable and no users manual inside the box, only the unit. I'm quite disappointed, I hope the unit works as it should. Will know when I acquire a power cable.. :((
This is a late edit: It just occured to me that the lack of the power cable and the users manuel is probably because of the customs control. The box was severly cut, so the missing components were probably cut as well and then left out on purpose. If so, I'm just lucky that the amp wasn't damaged.
Anyway a great headphone amp and I'm enjoying it. Thank you massdrop..
What was the drop pprice on this?
Jazzman
They should really post this info instead of being all shady about past pricing. Sometimes it makes me decide to wait and hope they drop it again, other times it makes me not wait, but it's extremely useful info as a consumer
Drop this again, please
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Bozoskeletonz
Looks counterfeit to me. Personally, I am sketched out by AliExpress for that reason.
I personally have the balanced 181 and I love every sound of it. When I bought the amp used and I installed the DAC-192 insert it eventually broke. I called Mr. Fried Reim and he said "send me the device at once..." i got it back 5 days after. Fully repaired, no charge. Service in a very superior way and the sound with my Primes ... <3
Probably only for the reason that folks in the states are unaware of Violectric & Lake People. These amps deserve far greater recognition - they are superb. They are very well liked in Europe & should catch hold in USA with some advertising. Most pro reviews are from Europe & may need translating. The V90, V100 and L.P. G109A perform at the $1000 amp level, IMO, and I am not affiliated with either brand or MD. I would only consider the Cavalli Liquid Carbon along with these, and that one is very limited production (off now). If none of these existed I would drop back to a Meier Corda Classic/ff in this same general price range for these 5 amps. All of those cost more than the V90 & G109A. The L.P. drops occasionally as does this model here. Even some ardent enthusiasts are not familiar with the Violectric/Lake People brand, but they are really missing out until they have one.
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I did indeed run my Ether 1.1 balanced off my Vio stack. Even had a Draug V2 cable to use with it. Got a great deal on a second hand pair. I liked it a lot. Sold it more for monetary reasons than anything else. They're very comfortable.
I'm 50-50 with what you're saying. I agree with a couple points. I'm not part of any mob mentality or group think. Ex. I disagree with a lot of what Tyll at innerfidelity is doing these days; especially his Wall of Fame decimating resale values every time something is stripped from it. I can come to my own conclusion and form my own opinions. Heh. I've also had a few of my comments and threads removed on head-fi as they were "jokes in poor taste." Some didn't find the humor in it; that's fine. Life goes on.
To clarify, I sell my current/old gear to assist paying for the next new toy. I don't have anything lying around other than my V850, V181, T1.1, HE-500, Violectric XLR IC's, AudioQuest AC Power Cables, AudioQuest USB A-B cable, and PS Audio Decter Power Center. All others have been sold. Some a couple of years ago now.
Out of all of those headphones, the only pairs that I'd consider buying again would be the HE-500, Ether 1.1, TH900. and T1.1. HE-500 and Ether 1.1 for music across the board. TH900 for EDM. T1.1 for gaming specifically. I usually only listen to music on my HE-500 atm and think they're incredible value these days. They suck for positional accuracy on games that I play though, so I swap to the T1.1 for that.
I'm also 25 years old. Plenty of time to get around to trying everything that's out there. Only a matter of time before the next toy rolls out and ruins resale values for the umpteenth time. I'm content to hold onto my "outdated" HE-500/T1.1 as their value can't drop any further even if it tried to. That sounds like a fair assessment to me. Maybe "better" things are out there, but I don't want to lose >$1000 each on them after 6-12 months of ownership.
Looks like everyone heard about that famous quote about V100 and HD800. I could not find any review on this V90 with HD800.
Ended up buying the Lake People G109A Anniversary version. After much digging, found from guys who owned both G109 & V90 (and some also G103 & V100), that the G109 sound is clearer. The middle gains setting works for almost all cans except the very few highest-demanding ones, then internally the gains switches can be simply adjusted for those if needed (top is popped off to reach switch). G109 is very similar to V100, and G103 is very similar to V90. The internal amp-type on G109A is same as V100 also. Decided didn't need pre-outs, so sound was deciding factor for me & G109 is on Tyell's InnerFidelity Wall Of Fame. Three other solid state desktops made the "wall", only the Meier Rock priced less. The Meier Classic or Jazz FF however may be better competition for the G109. I just couldn't bite at Meiers nor Audio GD CD-2 (NFB-1). Thought the Cavalli Liquid Carbon to be a great contender but $200 more, and maybe moreso when next production runs. If Violectric/Lake People wasn't around, probably would've then bought Meier Jazz FF.
Got my G109A today, fast delivery and price with shipping brand new 1st quality was only $440. Regular price $570 on sale to $500 with an extra additional 15% off code at checkout = "Winter-15". Not sure how long that price runs so I jumped on it a few days ago. $440 shipped is good deal, as V100 price is $760 plus shipping. Considered a used V100, but a new G109A at $320 to $335 savings (shipped) with warranty new vs new, sealed the deal as the G109A sound (with upgraded capacitors in "A" Anniversary edition, gold-feet & gold lettering) is very similar to V100. All these mentioned amps are incredible, just depends on preference and functionality. The Lake People and Violectric are built like tanks & have phenomenal customer support & advice if needed,- head-fi'ers have a good G103/G109 thread up concerning much of this. The units bought in Germany/UK (from Thomann) are 240 v types, the units bought from Violectric(Lake People) in USA are USA voltage. This will be my end-game amp for dynamics & planars. The G109A matches well with HD800 and high-demanding planars. It will run about anything but 1 or 2 headphones out there.
The V90 is exceptional & great if needing to very quickly change gains settings back & forth on unit back continuously for many headphones & if pre-outs are needed -nice functionality. Wish the G109A had those fast features, even front gains-switches would be better. Violectric & Lake People are built like tanks too. Axell Grell, the HD800 developer says V100 is 1 of his favorite amps. I can't think of a better amp <$500 than the G109A -it's performance level approaches other $1000 amps. Chosing a model just depends on the best fit for the user; maybe this will help someone.
Is this really 230/110V? The image says 115V only and there is no choice when joining the drop.... I need 230V
koolpep
I also have such demand to switch between 115V and 230V. You can open the box and there is a jump wire to set 115/230 V. I emailed Lake People before I bought my V90 and they told me so.
Laitian
Awesome. That's great indeed.
3 days left and still no one is joining the drop?
OK, cool, thanks.
luvmusik
I have placed my almost new V90 on eBay. To be convenient, best offer is accepted. It was carefully used for only half a month and is almost new.
Anyone who is interested in this unit can have a look at it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/252229426287?
Thanks guys, really great info. Seems the V100 and G109A are similar then V90 is either a step over or similar to G103, and V90 greatly approaches G109A. A head-fi guy A-B tested the V90 and G109A...said very close...difference he notes is G109A is clear & pure, V90 very close to that but a tiny bit darker or veiled. Not sure if this difference is significant. Those V90 easily adjustable gains are a plus when switching a few headphones back & forth. Question - what are some of the best uses for the pre-outs ?
luvmusik
The pre-outs is just used for active speaker. It does not amp or change the signal at all.
Laitian
In that case, it's not a Pre-Out but rather a Loop-Out...
Typed something wrong. K7XX is a good headphone, but it is not competitive compared to T1.
I have listened to the new T1 (2nd generation) on Bifrost Multibit + Violectric V90 for 3 hours now. V90 drives T1 so easily that the volume knob keeps almost the same position where it drives an AKG K7XX. I would say that the adjustable gain at the back of V90 really helps. I use the "-6" or sometimes "-12" to drive K7XX and use the "0" or "+6" gain to drive T1. Both perfect. Would sell K7XX for it is really competitive compared to T1. But I am really hesitating whether I should use a new amp to drive T1, or a balance amp to drive a balance T1. The symphony under this system is so appealing that I have never experienced so far no matter how I changed cable for K7XX. I was a guy who prefer vocals and sensitive to treble. While now I find the charm of symphony under this system and I am somehow turning to a symphony guy now, lol. Vocal under this system is even better than that with K7XX while I am now more interested in the symphonies now.
Curious how V90 might match with a future pursuit of Sennheiser HD800. There are reports an HD800 engineer from Sennheiser used a Violectric model to tune the HD800 in development. Not sure which model amp, possibly V200. Real expensive amps are often used with HD800, more costly than V200, and often amps cost more than their mated headphones. But even Axel Grell who developed the HD800 says the V100 is one of his favorite amps (headphonia V100 review). Apparently, the V100 and V200 both pair well with the HD800, guys on head-fi post either is a great match. So, wondering if the V90 as next to kin, could get close and also perform well with HD800 ? Reports are G103 and G109 match very well with HD800, so V90 should too. Getting a V90 and a used set of HD800 seems like a real value to enter the big leagues.
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I am very curious why none jumped in for this drop yet, given all the great reviews.
luvmusik
I'm using a a G 103 with the HD800 it sounds incredible.
Some words from Fried Reim himself about the different designs in Lake People/Violectric Amps. http://www.head-fi.org/t/620082/lake-people-g109-g103-thread/390#post_12066716
Hard to go wrong with The Lake People/Violectric line of products. Sure, I'm biased. They make good gear. It might be more expensive than some other offerings, but you get what you pay for. I've owned the V100 and V181; both are stellar. I'm confident that the V90 won't disappoint any prospective buyers.
I could care less about nwavguy and the cult following that comes with his posts. However, scroll down to the 'amp categories' section for some idea of how the V90 differs from other amps. http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/02/gain-and-headphone-ampsdacs.html
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socks_OCD
Read the link to nwavguy about amp internal differences and it is great, thank you, yet I'm stuck about learning details. What difference in sound might be expected from V100, V90, G109A/S and G103 ? Would be using a dozen + mixed models of dynamics and planars. The ease of gains changes on V90 is a plus.
Duuude. I recently picked up an HD800 (anax modded) and custom balanced cable. You're right about them performing/sounding "uncomfortably awesome."
Anyone have an opinion on how this stacks up against the Schiit Lyr?
Review is here: http://www.head-fi.org/products/violectric-hpa-v90/reviews/7412 Hope we can get 7 folks + me = 8.
Still liking this Violectric Audio HPA V90 the best after looking into the other competitor types.
Seems like maybe the best competition for the high power, high damping V90 is-
Lake People G109A/S (same German mfr as V90) Audio-GD C-2, (NFB-1) Cavalli Liquid Carbon - all sold out, limited run Meier Classic, Jazz, Rock
Have read the Meiers have been compared to either the V90 or G109, but not sure if it is an equal comparison, or how the results were. Lotsa folks like the Meiers.
Maybe some other top performing brand models also are comparable at this price range for solid state, high power, neutral signature amps; not sure about which others.
Gotta run, will check back <24hrs.
Before this Violectric V90, I use Magni 2 Uber from Schiit Audio to drive my AKG K7XX which is a Massdrop limited edition headphone and also has somehow bright treble as K 701. I would say Magni 2 Uber can drive K7XX well except for a somehow too bright treble. I am a guy who is fond of beautiful treble but also really sensitive to "bright" treble. Sometimes, when the electric is not clear (the voltage converter of Magni 2 Uber is really simple, or humble) or some unknown reason, the treble can be intolerably bright. Thus I cannot listen too long. I can only listen to music at most 2 hours. Otherwise, I would get uncomfortable and even get a slight headache. I sold that and began to use V90. This gives me a new world and the too bright treble never exist. I even use a silver/copper cable to enjoy the beautiful treble of K7XX and never heard intolerable too bright treble.
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Graham Slee products have its own taste. I would not call that a neutral amp. I am not sure whether you like that or not. It emphasizes the mids and somehow decreases the energy of bass and treble. If only listen to vocal, it will be a good choice. Otherwise, I do not recommend Graham Slee.
Vahalla is a good amp if you do not use the stock tubes. The stock tubes has a lean sound though. I listened to that amp from my friend once and he used the stock tubes and I was not impressed. While it is said if you choose the right upgrade tubes by yourself, it can be a beast.
Audio GD is the only amp when I upgraded from Magni 2 Uber. I searched a lot and asked many people have both NFB-6 from Audio GD and V90 from Violectric. Most of them told me that they are similar and are both good amps. Both neutral amps in a charming price. Considering it will take much time to get a NFB-6 from Audio GD official website (it will take at least 2 weeks on the way from Asia to US), I bought V90 in US and got that in 3 days.
As for Meier and Cavalli, I am really not familiar with them.
Forget Sony, it is an empire in decaying, at least in the realm of hifi products. The only product which can be commended is Z7 with upgrade headphone cable.
My T1 will arrive 2 days later on Dec. 26th. I can try to use Violectric V90 to drive T1 to see whether it works well. As we know, T1 has a 600 ohm impedance and is not so easy to drive. And I can report my using experience then.
If I commit to join at $399.99 and then see 3 others "join now", do I still have option to change to "join now" to complete drop as the 4th needed person in drop ? I'm more interested in this than the Lake People G-109 A or S, because V90 has multi-switchable gains right on back - an enormous asset, and also has pre-outs too. The specs are above the G-103, and specs are almost exact of G-109. Reports are this V90 is a very powerful, noise-free, neutral & pleasant sounding amp, and it has the most versatility in function. Description says it drives low impedance to high 600 ohm cans very easily, with power to drive most any planar but 1 or 2 most-demanding models. Looks like I'm in if others want to jump in too. If 8 join we get a price-break; better yet if 12 of us join, that price is super.
Deciding whether to jump in on this one or the mfr site for Lake People G-109A. Has anyone heard both this Violectric HPA-V90 and the Lake People G-109 A or S versions ? Would use on a few sets from K701, to HD650 and HE400i. Read the G-109 and higher HPA-V100 can power up the planars, and match HD650 well too. Do you think this HPA-V90 can do the same ? Can it UNVEIL the HD650 ? This V90 has convenient gain switches and pre-outs on back which is versatile, without opening up the case like Lake People for gains. Seems the G109 gets super reviews & wonder if this V90 is on level with G109, or if the V90 is on level with lesser G-103 model from Lake People. Violectric aimed at audiophiles, Lake People started as studio/pro gear crossing over to home audiophile. Both divisions of the company seem to make killer amps. Any advice, please weigh in. If jumping in, hope to get 11 others to commit, within the week. Thanks.
luvmusik
If one week later, there are not enough people jumping in this order, if you still like this and do not mind, I can sell my own Violectric V90 to you at the lowest price ($400). Used that for less than 10 days. I use this to drive my AKG K7XX and it works perfect. While I get a balanced T1 from my friend and had to find a balanced amp. Thus gonna sell that. Perfect working and all accessories included.
Laitian
OK, keep me in mind, I am interested & would take first dibs with you if drop doesn't happen; may even consider it outright too. Did it sound neutral with K701 or did it slightly brighten the cans up a bit ?, as K701 are a bright baseline can - I have a set here too.
730 mW at 600 Ohm? Holy Sheet
Good amp. I am using this right now with Bifrost Multibit and AKG K7XX. Wonderful sound. This amp is also suitable for driving HD 600/650. It can even drive T1 to an acceptable extent.
I once wrote letter to Lake People and they responded that "V90 will also work very well together with T1. From the technical point of view there is no need to upgrade the amp. All other amps from Vioectric have similar technical data."
Laitian
"This amp is also suitable for driving HD 600/650. It can even drive T1 to an acceptable extent."
Duh. Look at its power output. This thing is a beast. Even a Cmoy can power the HD650/600s to listenable levels, and the T1s are rather sensitive so that's not really a surprise either.
People way overestimate just how much power is needed for the majority of headphones. The only real outliers are the HE-6s and the K1000s.