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Handcrafted in the USA, these straps are made from some of the best leather in the world: shell cordovan. Taken from horsehide, it’s known for its strength, supple feel, and natural patina Read More
Unfortunately I already bought black and color #8 short straps directly from Ashland when they were having a sale. Maybe I will add a natural strap. Be aware that the straps are thin because they are unlined, but I think that is what makes these straps so supple and comfortable.
c0rneliusThe Omega is unmarked, but I assume is a Seamaster or Deville.
The Amaretto is actually not that dark, could be the lighting in the pic.
Here it is new with the navy:
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Here they are mounted with some other shell (left to right) from District Leather (#8), Ashland, Guarded Goods (Natural), and Ashland again.
Not all Ashland, but all Horween. Excuse the different times. Only the Sinn 356 is being used at the moment, so the other ones are resting/stopped.
Left to right: #8, Navy, Amaretto, #4, Natural.
ChurchillWWow look how dark that natural gets... Sounds like fun to watch that develop.
The wear from the buckle seems a little brutal though... What deployment do you recommend/use?
CornwalljI don't think I could get a deployant clasp onto the one piece natural strap, because of his thick the leather is on the buckle end. Most of my deployant claps are from timezones.com Sales Corner user RHD.
Ordered the Natural colour, 20mm, short (105/70) for my Speedmaster Moonwatch! I just wish it was a bit darker - like the Whiskey Shell colour Ashland has in wallets - not too light, not too dark.
In my experience they patina to the same shade after about two years. The amaretto remains very slightly more vibrant. I wear my straps pretty hard and get them sweaty so your experience may be different.
This is a good price for Brown color. The leather is water-repellent, indestructible and it smells delicious. My fav. straps are cordovan, they get patina like no other leather because they last so long.
Wikipedia says: "equine leather made from the fibrous flat muscle (or shell) beneath the hide on the rump of the horse."
I don't know what they mean by "shell." I think that Cordovan is the lower layer of the hide, which is more fibrous than the top layer. There is a good illustration of this in a post I made here called "Stuff to Know about Leather Grades When Shopping Online for Straps," which you'll have to search for since I can't link on the device I'm using now.
I don't think any "leather"-like substance is made from muscle or from any non-hide muscle-covering membrane of any sort. It could be that the manufacturing process involves stripping off the hide and then a separate step for stripping off the deeper hide for Cordovan production, leading people to think it's not hide. At any rate, this "shell" concept is only spoken about online in Cordovan articles. There is nothing about it in any horse or mammal anatomy references. There are no diagrams showing Cordovan sources or production that indicate anything other than hide.
On thing to consider is that deep, fibrous hide from cows is considered trash leather and is chopped up, glued together, sanded down, and stamped with a pattern to make cheap, so-called "genuine leather." Since Cordovan is a deluxe leather, but comes from the same place as cheap leather does on cows, maybe there is a concerted effort to distinguish it from "genuine leather" by creating and propagating elaborate myths about it.
CloacaThere is no such thing as cordovan leather, there is Shell-cordovan which is one of the rare types of LEATHER made by two tanneries one in US and one in JP . Yes it is made of subcutaneous layer from the horse rump. It looks and smells like regular leather and used as any regular leather in making leather products (bags, wallets, belts, shoes etc). I have several pairs of shoes made from shell-cordovan. It is completely smooth, water repellent, and it doesn't wrinkle like regular leather. It is thicker than calf or any other leather save for elephant and it is practically indestructible. If high quality it has deep rich color and aquires deep and attractive patina.
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Torn between Magenta and Ultraviolet. This picture - https://www.instagram.com/p/B1MmolZgutr/ - shows them practically identical, with Ultraviolet simply darker and being a teensy bit warmer color. In pictures of the watchstraps on ashlandleather website, it's Magenta that looks slightly warmer (i.e. there is some yellow in the color composition as opposed to blue). I want a colder shade, but one that will still "pop" somewhat after it patinas.
I'm afraid Ultraviolet will patina to such an extent that it will be too dark.
Can AshlandLeather clarify whether magenta is somewhat blue-leaning or, um, I don't know how to put it, warm rose-petal-leaning (like the watch strap pic on the website)? Any pics of the both colors after they have patina'ed?
If I can be sure that the Magenta watchstrap looks like the coin case from the above instagram pic, I'll go with Magenta (which will then darken to the shade of UV in the same pic, which is what I want it to end up as).
Thank you for the response! No, I wasn't looking for the color to stay as it is, I was trying to determine which one was a colder hue and how much the color would change. Yes, I'm very much aware of how these things are difficult to photograph and represent online (damn you, white balance—and physics of light in general :) ).
Anyway, bit the bullet and ordered a magenta. This will be my first shell cordovan anything... so once I've had an opportunity to see what the hype is about, I hope there will be repeat/further drops :)
AshonIt really depends on the watch you are putting it on, so this will vary.
I have to say though the short straps are even too long for my 6.25" wrist. Even with a 32mm watch I am using the second to last hole on the shorter end.
ChurchillWThat is interesting because on my short strap I use the third to last hole with my 39mm watch (the one with the 47mm or ~1-3/4" lug-to-lug) on my 6.4" wrist. I corrected my measurements in my previous comment because it was late at night and they are approximate. The length on the last hole is 6-1/4" and 7-1/4" on the short and regular straps, respectively, with my 39mm watch.