Bestech Knives 1703 Titanium Frame Lock w/S35VNsearch

Bestech Knives 1703 Titanium Frame Lock w/S35VN

Bestech Knives 1703 Titanium Frame Lock w/S35VN

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My Bestech 1703A doesn’t look like the one pictured. There’s no “BTK” on the show side of the blade, instead it says “Bestech Knives”, and on the pocket clip side of the blade it says “Emperor”. Do other people who have purchased this knife on this drop have something similar?
btk what an unfortunate name...
Started carrying this knife occasionally. Blade moves slightly when locked with the slightest amount of downward pressure. This could be a real problem as it could lead to lock failure. Looks like this high end China made knife is not worth the money
Think I'll wait till this one can be had for cheaper. Shame because the aesthetics are almost perfect. Other than the emblem.
This knife seems really expensive in comparison to the last two FF/We/Massdrop collaborations.
What is the blade grind on these knives? I assume that they are flat/hollow grinds?
I might just get it just for the btk branded pouch🔪
>An anodized clip with with beveled edges offers right-handed tip-up carry. There's an extra 'with' in the description.
Where are the knives manufactured?
Guncleana
This is a new Chinese company.
I like a lot this knife, and it's not an obnoxious logo too. Too bad it's a flipper (
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Nothing wrong with flippers, I just prefer opening all my knives the same way : Spydie hole or thumb stud =) And muscle memory too, I want to only be used to one kind of opening.
The only thing wrong with a flipper is.... They are really easy to open.
Massdrop, the description is quite possibly wrong here. This is the second drop, not the first. Therefore the knives won't come with production numbers under 150 (unless you have some knives left over from the first drop).
Just trying to help avoid an oops.
demodoj
Appreciate that @demodoj! The available units are first production so they will indeed include production #'s.
Really liking this knife. Even my wife thinks its cool (she's a knitter, not a knifer).
Bestech if you're listening: do a sub 3" version, drop the BTK logo from the blade, and give the blade a bit more polish instead of this bland gray.
I'd be on that like flies on sh... poop.
does this have lockbar insert?
sir_puffs_alot
Yes; lockbar insert and overtravel stop are one in the same on this knife.
Hey everyone, we've gotten a few question about serial numbers...
Here's the deal - this was not a case of higher production numbers being shipped, per se - it's a matter of the description of which numbers were assigned being lost in translation with a new overseas vendor.
They were quite clear that number would be assigned 1-50 and 1-80 in an email. What they meant by this is "The first 50 gray and the first 80 gold will be reserved for your members." The way this actually worked is the serial numbers for the 1703 model overall - regardless of color - were lasered in order, with 1-70 being all gray, and 71-150 being all gold (I'm 99% sure of the split, it's a bit of a struggle to translate this even after a few emails). So, if you got a serial number that is higher than expected, it is actually still one of the first ones produced in that color.
We're just as surprised as you are, and we've spoken to the vendor about making this clear in all future drops. But we know that doesn't change the fact that you didn't get exactly what was expected, so everyone who was affected will get a message from our support team with information about how it will be handled for your orders.
Thanks for letting us know, and sorry for the mixup. If you have any other issues (blade grind or anodization color), please submit a help ticket with photos so that we can handle those separately.
I received my grey one. Quality seems very good! I'm very impressed!
The scales do have a lenticular contouring to them, which makes them very comfortable. It reminds me of the lenticular contouring of my Spyderco Slysz Bowie. But the handle here feels more hand filling, with a bit more girth, which is very nice.
The grey color is much more subtle in person than in the photo. On my computer, the grey knife looks almost light blue and is more saturated that the color of the knife I received. That's not a criticism, necessarily. I actually prefer the more subtle coloring.
One big nit I have is that the transition on the blade edge, where it transitions from the belly and starts to swoop up to the tip - the start of that transition begins too far back on the blade. It start closer to the pivot than is normal. So there's a pretty long and shallow angle from that transition up to the tip.
Additionally, the curvature of the blade once it begins to swoop up towards the tip almost flattens out to a straight line.
The result is that the blade feels like a dagger, or a very straight edged spear point, designed for stabbing more than for slicing or cutting. This really limits what I can do with the knife.
The knives pictured on the Massdrop page, and those posted by users, don't have as severe or pointy tips, so it looks like I got one that was ground in an odd way. Which is very, very annoying.
Another nit is that the clip seems very, very, solid and stiff. Too solid and stiff. I'm not sure I can get it over the folded edge on top of my pocket without a lot of effort each time.
Otherwise, it seems like a pretty high quality knife. Very nice handle design, and quality seems super.
Time will tell how good the heat treatment is, and how long the edge will hold.
K.T.N
About the heat threatment after i sharpened it i noticed that it is hard to get a shaving sharp edge compared to other s35vn i have.I agree on the clip it is so hard to get on,but adds the benefit of never have to worry about it moving to the centre of the pocket.
K.T.N
Could you post a pick of yours? While I've grown to really like the look of the knife, I think my grind is off too so I'd like to compare. I definitely see the straight line after a 45 degree angle on mine which does look a bit different from the pics.
As far as RED loctite, I don't see any issues there...actually I call that a plus. most of my high end knives have it. It takes an extra step for any company to add loctite so most production knives skip it. For the grease, I can't call that a negative without knowing what grade and type it is. There are many kinds that will gel when stored or inactive and "warm" with use. I'm going to give the benefit to the manufacturers to know that too. My knife flipped a bit stiff at first, but now it's like butter...so I'm going to call that a plus. I like to tinker and mess with my knives as much as the next guy but if there's an issue requiring that the knife needs to come completely apart, then that's an issue for the company and I'll be sending it to them for service. In most cases if I take it apart the warranty gets voided. I'm guessing the company had this in mind when they made the design choice to use the free float screw. To me that's another plus.
NealP
That is all negatives in my book.If i cant open a knife i hate it because i cant clean it. In this case they used red loctite because they used crappy screws with loose threads and will strip altogether fast. The problem with the grease for me was that i was dried up when it came to me so it was gritty. The pivot still can get loose even with the red loctite and it gets very fun not able to tighen your pivot unless you know what you're doing.
I got 141/150 gold. The gold finish is a bit off. One side is a dark gold, while the other side is a bronze. It feels great in the hands and also look great eventhough the color is off.
The blade came a bit dull, but that's easily fixed. The only major issue is the knife does not seem serviceable, at least not easily.
If these issues get fixed in a future production then this knife will be A+. As for now it is good, but overpriced.
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Update: after closer inspection I'm noticing a lot of wear on the clip. Pretty disappointed.
ksidirt
Yep, it's not a positive. I'm inclined to knock it up to being a new company and working the kinks out. (Mostly because I have the Gray and its only the clip; I'll just Flitz it out and call it a mod.) But, for anyone who got the gold, it's kind of a big deal and not something that can be overlooked at the asking price. Time to put in a ticket with support. 😒 It was a dice roll buy : sometimes you win , sometimes you ...get to listen to hold music 🎶
Just got mine in the mail... first impression- is very positive! It's well made, fit and finish is excellent. Lockup is very nice. flip is nice... a bit stiff but that's normal out of the box. Over all, I got to say I'm very pleased .
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Yeah, that's knife making 101... including a way to ensure that the pivot can be properly adjusted (usually via a D-shaped pivot nut).
Thanks for the feedback, but it leaves me a bit confused. If there's nothing stopping the pivot from free spinning, how the heck did they tighten it in the first place? Was it glued in?
demodoj
Well i guess the same way i did.Pushing the blade to one side so it creates pressure and stops it from spinning but easier said than done.The knife is good enough for First production.When they fix the screws and the pivot,this knife will be a Gem
https://www.instagram.com/p/BSsknB6jgMq/?taken-by=btk_knives
Here is a video of the knife (i think) from their instagram page.
I skipped on this one because the company seemed a bit shady. When people get theirs, please post your impressions to help other users decide whether we should see more Bestech Knives drops!
OK, I just have to throw this out there for thought.
It's S35VN steel, which is a great steel. But as this knife is all but unknown, there's a big IF about the quality of the S35VN. Heat treatment, hardness, edge retention, etc. It may be just fine, but then again, who knows?
I'm in for one, but this is something that's kicking around in the back of my mind.
One thing that's attractive to me about this knife is that scales appear to have a similar "lenticular" edge profiling similar to those on the Spyerco Slysz Bowie.
I'm just inferring that by the photos. However, I have the Slysz Bowie, and that subtle thinning of the scales as you approach the edges makes for a very comfortable handle. The Slysz Bowie is among my favorite carry knives.
Well, I've rolled the dice on the gold version. The knife is friggin' gorgeous.
That said, Massdrop, you've got one chance with this; anything other than exceptional build and you'll lose me for any future 'new / emerging' vendors you may source. It may seem overblown (QA issues happen anywhere), but I have zero confidence in being able to have the knife serviced if there's an issue (considering the website 'borrowing' on BTK's part).
So again, be warned, I'm looking forward to the knife and continuing to do business with Massdrop, but this better workout. I hope you did you're homework on this and it's not just an attempted cash grab.
Lastly, based on this response, perhaps you should pilot these knives. Choose a select few buyers and allow them to purchase these knives for $75. Yes, it's a clear loss for you and the manufacturer, but if we rave about them, you'll likely recoup that will additional releases. Always under-promise and over-deliver. Not ashamed to say that I purchased 4 GT Knives (GT101 and GT109, I think) from Touch of Modern and I'll NEVER buy knives from them again. The knives were advertised as $225 retail, but weren't worth $2.25. All 4 were crap. I've only committed to one knife here, so I hope it's build represents the $220 MSRP.
Reate and CKF are both clone knife makers or utilize clone knife manufacturers to build their knives.
If BestTech is Kevin John in new clothes I care about as much as most others care about Reate and CKF.
I know that almost everyone that buys a Kevin John knife is surprised and kind of amazed at the quality compared to the price.
Just food for thought.
By the way, CKF uses Kevin John as their OEM and Reate is Adai. Who know what BestTech or whatever is attached to but if you like Reate or CKF you have no room to complain about others supporting clones.
RussB
Well the blade design is taken from the Rike 1508 integral.
Dear all friends from Massdrop, I am Solina from the Bestech knives team. Thanks for all of your supporting , trusting, and concerning on this new brand. I just saw them these two days. Firstly I should feel sorry on the website which confused you. We are always endeavoring on developing and produce good knives for the market, so the website establishment is our disadvantage. But we are trying to construct it as soon as possible. Our brand has no relationship with Kizer.
Thanks to Massdrop's trusting on our design and quality, after they check the sample. until today, Massdrop is the only one dealer of ours in the USA. We hope that everyone who buy our knife will be happy with it. So in near future,we will have more and more new knives launch into market by Massdrop.
we really appreciate the good feedback from all of you. we believe we will improve better and better by getting your suggestions! Thanks again!
Solina
@Solina Thanks for the information.
Question: if your brand has no relationship to Kizer, then who do we contact for warranty on this product? The website says to contact Kizer.
Jonthamo
Dear friend, thanks for asking. We will have service and warranty office in the US and European Union very soon. Don't worry about this. If you have any problem, you can source to our team member local. Later I will show the contact way on our website. And more and more vendors will add in our brand. Appreciate your good feedback and suggestions!
Dude you guys are the only two people who think that, I had to Google it and think it is bizarre you would have any kind of mental connection or association to a pocket knife. I guess he may have used a knife? Seems like a stretch.
Ordered two and then canceled it. 10 years experience but no feedback anywhere... Will wait next drop...
Quite an unknown brand with some mysterious associations to Kizer. I feel better buying through Massdrop rather than direct, as there's some accountability I trust more.
It looks like a great quality knife. It may be that we'll be springing for Bestech knives in the future as great values for very good knives. But who knows. It could go the other way just as well. The knife looks great in the photos, though.
I don't know how I feel about the design element near the pommel. It looks vaguely Chinese. Maybe a little busy. But not too objectionable. Not a deal breaker for me, though I don't know if I actually like it or not. At least it's more of a conversation starter than just plain scales.
Seriously, never understood the bitching about the BTK until I Googled it. Man!
As already mentioned, where I'm from you won't get any pats on the back showing off a knife with those initials.
Their website is plagiarised from Kizer's. Exact word for word, I'm not kidding, check both company's site. I wanted to check if both were located at the same address but mysteriously Kizer's site doesnt show address anymore... has anything happened in community that I'm unaware of? (e.g Kizer did a bad uh oh, so rebranding) lol
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Do.4life
It'd be nice if a single link on the home page was working. Facebook, instagram, or any of the "dealer" links. Maybe this will turn out to be a deal like getting a Rike, Reate or WE for $150 would have been 2 years ago. But I think I'll wait for the second drop after I hear how delighted y'all are with the knife. It is good looking, although I find it hard to believe it's a CR collaboration. There's a G10 knife on their home page that's simply stunning, but not listed under products. And TBH, I'm not in the market at this moment, I just got a Reate K-1 and a CKF Ratata (and 2 others not including the FF here), so I think my wad is blown for May (and June)!
Do.4life
They just said they have no connection to Kizer, which would make them a website theif. At the place I work, we've had our website stolen twice (that we know of). After spending literally tens of thousands of dollars developing the site, these lowlifes come by, spider the site, then search and replace company name and address. Both of our experiences had multiple pages that missed their sanitation effort. And a numher of people contacted us to complain about our crapy customer service and other issues. Bad deal all around.