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Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro

Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro

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Does the 32 ohm version have a shorter cable than the other versions?
If anyone has a link to the frequency response of 250ohm vs 80ohm on the same chart, that would be great!
Everyone talks about the bass on 80ohm, but how is the 250ohm? Coming from ATH-M50X and wouldn't want less bass, but don't want something too boomy either.
Did Massdrop make any changes to the standard DT770? Or are these just on sale here?
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- 32ohm is the "less refined" sounding, and it's actually less flexible due to it's low impedance: it requires a very low output impedance, anything above 4 ohms will be too much. However, their low impedance makes them really easy to drive from portable devices.
- 80ohm is, according to my readings, a good compromise between drivability and sound quality. It has similar bass quantity than the 32 ohm, but better quality. It'll still sound loud enough from most portable devices, specially good quality DAPs, but SQ still improve with better amplification.
- 250 ohm has less bass quantity, but the damping factor makes the bass quality improve. However, these aren't easy to drive for most solid state amps, specially embedded chipsets you'll find on most PC/laptop/smartphones won't drive them loud nor good. On the plus side, their higher impedance allows you to use literally anything to drive them: from budget solid state to expensive OTL amps, they'll sound loud and scale with better amplification.
Depending on your preferences and setup, 80 or 250 ohm versions are both interesting: IDK if I'd go for the 80 or 250 ohm version, the 250 fits better my setup (I have a DV 336se and I'd like to use it, or at least be able to) but the 80 has more bass quantity (I like some extra bass on closed backs), so both are appealing. The 32 ohm version, for me, it's a stupid compromise: it doesn't sound as good as higher ohm versions, requires a very low output impedance to sound "just ok", and won't scale with better amplification.
If you really need a low impedance, easy to drive, closed back headphones that you can listen just with your smartphone but still plug to a desktop setup and improve their sound quality a bit, better look elsewhere (Audio Technica ATH-M50x are way better than the 32 ohm DT770, and will do exactly what you need).
80 Ohm has a warm and good sound even directly being driven from laptop or PC
Question: I prefer the 250 Ohm version - Can this play if plugged directly to my mac book laptop?
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Thanks for you reply @raansire7 - I do currently own a audio interface . Hopefully this can power the 250 ohm. I own the Rode AI-1. I do own about 4 computers at home, but I only have 1 dac/audio interface. I wonder how does the 250 ohm sound plugged directly to the Mac Laptop.
pokoot
You're welcome, buddy. But "listen"...you need GOOD POWER if you want to be amazed by them. If not, they will be underwhelming. I own the DT 990 PRO and the more sensitive T90. They're both 250 ohm and get plenty loud on the iPhone 8 Plus, iPad Pro, Colorfly C3 and LG V10...and even on my LG G3. Plenty loud. That's about it. Loudness doesn't translate to aural pleasure. The T90 are less picky because of the Tesla drivers, but the older 250 ohm DT series Beyers NEED power to sound good. If not, they sound torturously bright and brittle, the mids sound distant, and the bass sounds weak. Hooked up to my Asgard 2, even on low gain the DT 990 PRO come alive and sound awesome, like a different pair of headphones.
Have you ever had home-baked, made-from-scratch cake? It's fantastic, right? Compare that to pre-baked cakes in grocery stores, which taste good enough but not delicious. They taste and feel like cake in your mouth...but something is missing. They don't hit the spot. That's what happens with underpowered high-impedance headphones. They will get loud enough to bother your ears, they will sound "good" in the grand scheme of things, but chances are your brain will notice something off about the sound and you will not feel reward.
Get yourself a headphone amp and a DAC. It's not an option, buddy. Interfaces do not have quality headphone amps. They're decent, but not ground-breaking. You don't have to break the bank. A Schiit Audio Modi 3 DAC and a Magni 3 amp will cost you $198 combined and you will be able to power basically any headphones, and it will sound fantastic to your ears.
In the description here, it says the 250 ohm model comes with a straight cable. Everywhere else I've looked, it appears the 250 ohm model always comes with a coiled cable. Which does this come with?
Anyone from the Philippines who joined the dropped? How's the Global Warranty of this one / massdrop?
ajdt
No warranty buy at your own risk.
Anyone have experience using these as reference? Tracking/recording audio. Specifically interested in the 32ohm so I can take them on the road and use them everywhere.
Is the cable removable ?
DenisF
No
DenisF
Thanks for your answer
My 250 ohm arrived today, but I've got no sound out of the right ear. I've tried multiple devices and its all left ear only. Am I going to have to RMA?
i want buy this but i saving right now hehe :3
ibadgrammar
Massdrop is the wrong place to be if you're saving right now:)
What is the difference between dt 770 pro 80 Ohm limited edition and the standard edition of the same?
Soumya
Color. Imo the ltd ed looks much nicer but the only difference is black vs grey pads
domcobb1
Thanks man. I was thinking if the sound would be different (like in 32 ohm & 250 ohm, the presence of the 'beyer' trable is supposedly more prominent than 80 ohm.) It's really good to know that isn't the case.
is this made in Germany or China ?
shuvro
If it's the exact same drop as last time, should still be Germany. I don't think they've ever been manufactured in China.
devolutionary
my box from 2 drops ago says Made in Germany - on my 250 Ohm version
these or the HD 58X Jubilee?
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Unfortunately hd58x is not available now and i don't know when they will be back ao if u need a headphone now, these r better option. That said i don't have dt770 but i have dt990 and hd58x, I found hd58x is easier to listen to for long time. Dt990 and arguably dt770 have a peak in treble, if u don't know what i am talking about, then imagine everytime singer breath, that will be audiable with dt990 and even every single word with s sound. It can be tired very quick . other than that even in the bass region, the dt990 is more dominant than hd58x. So if u want something laid back wait for the hd58x. If u want extreme v shape pick these up. I heard that dt770 is less v shape than dt990 so that might be good but do keep that in mind if you choose them.
Drrragon
ok, got it. I'll wait for the HD 58x. Thanks for the info! appreciate it a lot.
" This drop is limited to members within the United States, Canada, and South America. "
But I can ship it to Israel. Is this intentional? Or will it not work?
For my Astell & Kern AK70, which option would be the best - 32/80/250 ohms?
zamlock
That's a more than adequate DAP for the 250 ohm version. Having said that, the 80ohm version is preferable for easy bass listening and less sharp treble. If you plan on doing more critical home listening I'd recommend 250ohms though.
devolutionary
Thanks for the reply. For rock / metal music mostly - what would be your pick? Cheers.
drat, that is much cheaper than what I paid a month ago! Oh well, I'll swallow the difference because I got much enjoyment in the meantime. I'm a musician, and these are just fantastic cans for bedroom jamming/producing. I thought my Shure SR440 headphones were very good, but these have an octave on either side of those, and just much more resolution. The only negative is that they do not fold, and on a hot day outside, your head will melt from the deep dark blackness absorbing all that heat.
I've been using the same 250-ohm pair with an amp for many hours a day for the last 5 years. No complaints, great for minimizing and drowning out background noise in the workplace environment.
These aren't noise canceling, so expecting them to block all incoming noise isn't feasible.
I using this good headphone
Got mine in today. Overall im pretty happy with the audio experience but am a little dissapointed in their ability to block out sound. In my home and work environment there is a lot of noise and thought these would block out more than they do.
Actually the isolation on this cans is pretty amazing. Compared with my K553 MKII, DT770 isolate more.
I am over 50 and decided I wanted to have my first headphones...ever. I like music - especially the music I like, but I have always listened through a quality speaker system in a media room setup. I always felt like headphones were "cheating" since, of course they could have overwhelming sound since they were right over your ears! That didn't make them comparable (in my mind) to the wonderful sound that comes through high-end speakers and quality system. I have no technical expertise.
I want to let you all here know how much I appreciate your thoughts and recommendations and experiences with all headphones and equipment because I am one of those you helped greatly through your comments - even though no one knew I was out here reading and listening. Based on my preferences and all of your information, I decided on these DT770 Pro (80 ohm) headphones as my choice.
I got them in the July drop along with purchase of Modi 2 and Magni 3 dac and amp, and audioquest cables. Getting these headphones and putting them on was better than Christmas - for me, it was like when I played youth baseball and made the majors that had the full uniform... and I put that on for the first time (actually every time I got to put on that uniform).
Listening to music with these headphones has been everything I was anticipating and hoping for! I have actually been almost scared to listen more because I worry that I will use it up or it won't be real the next time... Instead, it keeps getting better. It is a totally wonderful experience to listen to music with these headphones...
So, now I am going to give all of you a gift back for all the help I was given. I think it would work for anyone using these headphones, but for all of you - just use your own favorites. The music you will be listening to is from Ray Lynch and his specific album is Deep Breakfast. You will be listening to 3 songs ( in this order): 1) Celestial Soda Pop, 2) Rhythm In The Pews and 3) Tiny Geometries.
My directions are that you won't be working at listening, you won't be listening to try and decide how it could be even better, you won't be deciding if the headphone cable should be shorter (or longer)...you will set your mind free, let it get lost, let it soar with the music.. For me, I let mine go into space - limitless and unreal. These headphones help you treasure the music and experience the pure joy it can bring.
These headphones can take me anywhere I want to go...
Enjoy ... and peace to you all!
I have dt990 already, should i get these?? I heard people saying they r quite similar in sound signature and i am looking for something different.
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Drrragon
I own the DT770, 880 and 990. The 770 is on the wild side of neutral, but it is nothing as dramatically V shaped as the 990.
That said, assuming that you like the 990, the 770 seems a no brainer if you are looking for a closed. They both have the same energetic, fast driver.
If what you're looking for is a different Beyer tuning the 880, or perhaps one of the Tesla driver models would be a better bet.
GiantHeadphoneSquid
Thanks, maybe i will look into sennheiser for my next adventure
How much, if anything, are these an upgrade from a M40x? And could I power the 250ohm version from the Centrance DACport HD? Thanks!
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I ended up joining the drop but thank you for the reply! I'm super excited for the DT770s! And yeah, the M40x's are the little brother to the M50x's. When you say fatiguing are you referring to the cans being uncomfortable after a period of time?
domcobb1
Yes, all the Beyers I've listened to have very little to no attenuation in the higher frequencies. It's their "house sound" just like how Sennheiser's veil is the opposite (some attenuation in the higher frequencies). So they sound really detailed and great and an hour or so later your ears are tired. Probably due to people listening to music too loudly and how humans hearing is more sensitive (db per frequency) the higher the frequency. FYI, pink noise is what people use to burn headphones in and its the inverse of that, ie it gets quieter as the frequencies go up. Hope that helps.
Don't misunderstand, the fatigue is strictly from other headphones being quieter at higher frequencies. It's not from a design flaw or anything mechanical, the headphone's ear cups are extremely comfortable.
These are an incredible value and my go-to closed backs. I have yet to use any others I like more. I have the 80 ohm version. Let me know if you have any questions.
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If you want the same sound signature with the benefits of a closed back, then yes. The two things that I like about them in particular are the extensive bass range and sound stage. They are ideal for representing recordings accurately. I'm not an expert, but I would say they are tuned fairly flat.
riseuplight
With a fiio amp, particularly the q1 mark 2, do you think it's better to get the 80 ohm or 250 ohm version?
From the ad copy on the drop, "High quality out of the box, every part of the DT770 is replaceable, in case you want to do some modding down the line."
Every part EXCEPT THE CABLE!!!
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ohsigmachi
I'm not sure what your particular needs are where the cabling is concerned, but if durability is worry I would say don't sweat it. I've had the DT770's for 10 years of daily use. I'm wearing them right now in fact. I've rolled over the cable dozens of times, tripped over it, sat on it... everything that happens to a cable over the course of daily use and abuse. Never had any issues.
Farnham
I'd like to be able to change cable lengths, if the cable wasn't 40ft long you probably wouldn't punish it nearly as much.
I have DT880 and 990s and cable length is my chief gripe about both of them.
I had a custom 5ft cable made for my DT1770s and it is perfect for my rig.
Looking for closed headphones for airplane since I travel a lot. Would these work well on airplanes? I would just be playing them from my phone. Should I get the 32ohm or 80ohm? What differences would I hear between the 2 options?
WeBeGrubbin
umm.. sort of .. 32ohms probably.. but these are not ideal for airplanes they are big the cable is long ~10ft.. fixed, big bulky don't fold at all..
I love these headphones but they are really not suited for mobile use.... I personally generally use AudioTechnia ATH-M50X's on planes / travel .. similar sound not quite as comfortable but fold / collapse and detachable cable much better for travel. My 80 Ohms can't really be driven properly by my Galaxy S8 needs an amp to sound decent.
WeBeGrubbin
I have the 250Ohm version and while it's a great headphone it does not isolate good enough for me to use on an airplane due to the velour pads. I tend to use either my M50x (pleather) or Etymotic IEMs on an airplane. Sometimes I'll even use the IEMs with the M50x as isolation if I'm listening to music and not just playing something on my Switch.
Haven't tried the 32Ohm or 80Ohm variants of the DT770s but I suspect, pending the phone, they would work just fine for an airplane.
I've read that the 80Ohms are better and similar to the 770s with higher impedance. Haven't heard anything other than the 250Ohm variant and it's my favorite closed back headphone.
Is it possible to drive these straight from the audio jack from a PC?
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HuaL
I own the Pro 80's (5~yrs now) the answer is not very well.. direct from phone, pc..etc really the 80s need an amp to sound decent in most scenarios .. also the 80's can have harsh highs when paired with bright amps.. so something with a warmer sound is my suggestion (I use these at home exclusively .. either w/ my DV336 tube amp or a vintage Kenwood receiver that is warmer sounding).
atarione
Thanks for the information!
why not a 600ohm option
Verum0
Don't get set on which impedance is the best. The best impedance is the one the engineer designed the product around. Really the only exception to this is if you are to use an amplifier with a high output impedance (headphone's impedance less than 10 times the output impedance), which really only shows up with OTL tube amps.