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Massdrop Blue Box: Spyderco Native 5

Massdrop Blue Box: Spyderco Native 5

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Nooooooo the dreaded g10 upgrade (downgrade) haha knife is in perfect condition and love the g10. Wish the steel wasn't what it is but it's still fine!
Just got this in the mail today. I got the G10 with S30V blade. The knife is perfect condition and the G10 is nice and grippy.
I got the blue FRN, which is fine. I usually don't join the blue box drops, but since I wanted a Native 5 and I would've been happy with any of the models, I went for it. I really would've liked the blue G10 but hey. Can't seem to leave a review but the knife itself is flawless. It even swings shut despite not having washers or anything.
Got this, not happy. I know it's a game of chance I got several massdrop blue or mystery boxes and not once did I get anything above what I paid, so in the future I will not be taking a chance on one of these boxes. The knife itself Spyderco native 5 with frn grip is ok at best I have a paramilitary with g10 handle that blows it out of the water and I paid the same soooo?
Blugviel
Are you seriously bitching about getting what you paid for? They literally give you the odds up front.
So I decided to take a chance on this, to see what MassDrop could do, other than mess up the description. What on Earth is a "G41GPDBL5"? I can't find this ANYWHERE. It must have a blade made of Unobtanium, and scales made from unicorn horn... My two Natives turned up today, shipped by UPS to Europe, where I was stung for €116 in import duties and VAT. Plus UPS takes a €15 administration and collection fee. Then another €3 in VAT on the service that UPS so kindly supplied... What did I get for the equivalent of $303 ? One C41GP5: S30V steel and G10 scales. One C41PDBL5: S110V steel and dark blue FRN scales. Cost if I had bought these last time I was over in the US? $300. So I just about broke even.
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Keithis
The model number is a typo, should've been "C41GPDBL5". All the other ones start with "C".
awk
Yes, I figured that out. Model numbers of all natives begin C41; this was true of previous versions (e.g. Native 4), too.
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  • Has anyone received their Native yet? My arrived today as per the FedEx/USPS. The weight was 0.2lbs/0.09kg.

The specs list a black g10 handle with S35VN, above it the upgrades list a black g10 handle with S30V. Glad massdrop could get things half right this time.
Current prices from Legit dealers:
  • 60%: Spyderco Native 5 C41DBL5 FRN Handle + S110V Blade $123
  • 25%: Spyderco Native 5 C41GP5 Black G-10 Handle + S30V Blade $146
  • 10%: Spyderco Native 5 C41GY5 Grey FRN Handle + Maxamet Blade $156
  •  3%: Spyderco Native 5 G41GPDBL5 Dark Blue G-10 Handle + S110V Blade $156
  •  2%: Spyderco Native 5 C41CFFP5 Native Fluted Carbon Fiber + S90V Blade $233
60% chance to break even 25% chance to save $24 but take a big downgrade in blade steel 10% chance to save $34 3% chance to "save" $34 if G-10 means that much to you 2% chance at a great deal if you like Carbon Fiber Seems like a junior high school dance with 1 average girl and a lot of wall flowers..
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KestrelX
Also as of yesterday, they only had 68 buyers for this drop, so chance of the better "pot sweeteners" is lessened. MD always lists the total number of buyers EVER in the drop info, not buyers specific to the drop at hand. That info matters quite a bit to these Blue Box things, but does not seem to be readily available.
Rosebud41
Good info to have. Think this will cause me to skip this drop and wait for the release of the Native 5 salt.
S30v is not an upgrade. Nice try
1 in 4 chance of a downgrade in steel to S30V is extremely unappealing. Like other posts I really don’t care about the handle material. I can make a replacement handle, I can’t forge steel.
dorisday
The issue though is with Spyderco, not Massdrop. It's Spyderco who priced the S30V in G10 higher than the S110V in FRN. "Upgrade" just refers to monetary value, not steel preference.
Hey everyone, Wanted to address some comments and concerns some of you have regarding the drop. In the previous run of this drop, Spyderco made us aware they updated the steel of the base model, after the drop ended, and orders were captured. For those lucky members who received upgrades, your order was not affected, and for the 50% of those affected, we gave a $25 credit, and sent a statement from Spyderco explaining this mix-up. Affected members were also given the option to return the base model for a full refund. If you were in the previous drop, were affected, and did not receive your $25 credit, please reach out to our Community Support team at CS@massdrop.com, and we’ll make sure we correct that. We can assure you that this drop won’t have the same issue. We’ve worked closely with Spyderco to ensure everything is in order and we’re excited to be running the Native 5 Blue Box again! We appreciate all of your feedback. We’re always listening, and of course, always want to do right by the community. Thanks!
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kyleemj
So, s30v isn't included in the "upgrades" anymore? Frankly, I'd be upset if I ordered s110v and got s30v
Chuck_TooMuchFace
It is for this drop, might be fixed in future drops. Also, if you "win" the S30 "upgrade", you can't decline it. TLDR: Want S110 or better, wait for the next drop!
I have just returned from a long trip down the discussion page. I found the official response about the mix up. When I buy a knife, one of the things I am buying is the blade. For me to get a different steel, (it would never be a better one) I feel is tantamount to steeling. I understand what happened. I can understand that it was inadvertent given Spyderco's business model. But nothing but a total refund and prepaid return shipping would have satisfied me. I do feel that MD and Spyderco made a reasonable effort to correct it. In being a customer, I can freely BMW. Running the show could really give me ulcers and HBP. In closing, MD, you really need to look at siskste's post and fix the numbers unless you stand by them as being correct. Nevermind, you just fixed it. Thank you.
Earth to MD! Come in. Are you there? You want me to buy a Spyderco with S110V and tell me that I have a 12.5% chance of it being downgraded to S30V? Maybe you can do a Blue Box special with what you've been smoking. I could see myself getting in on that one. I have wanted a Native 5 in Maxamet for a long time. It's only $30 more than the buy in price for this. This is not appealing. The Maxamet is, but not this acquisitional method.
Let's see...
  • 50%: Spyderco Native 5 C41DBL5 FRN Handle + S110V Blade ($189.95 retail value)
  • 25%: Spyderco Native 5 C41GS Black G-10 Handle + S30V Blade ($224.95 retail value)
  • 10%: Spyderco Native 5 C41GY5 Grey FRN Handle + Maxamet Blade ($239.95 retail value)
  •  3%: Spyderco Native 5 G41GPDBL5 Dark Blue G-10 Handle + S110V Blade ($254.95 retail value)
  •  2%: Spyderco Native 5 C41CFFP5 Native Fluted Carbon Fiber + S90V Blade ($359.95 Retail Value)
My "old math" shows that to be 90% total. Sooo 10 percent of the people who order don't get a knife at all? I guess that's one way to recoup the cost of "upgrades."
Siskste
Thanx! It looks like they just fixed it.
Siskste
I believe that these percentages apply to the lucky 50% of the buyers.
Can we get an official MD post in the discussions concerning the blades offered this time around? It'd be a nice reassurance that y'all know what's being sold. Also, I see there's no MD response to the previous issue in the discussions. Love that radio silence. Really makes you question weather or not this company is community oriented considering y'all keep quiet when a mishap occurs. At least in this community as far as ive seen, and communication is limited to automated emails. Stay classy. To anyone questioning MD's ability to handle issues (Considering thats a large number of posts here), expect the following: -Around 1 work week of delay in ticket response for support. -No discussion from MD (a "community" oriented retailer) on the drop page. -Automated email with finger pointing days after the matter came to their attention. Just imagine nearly any other reputable online retailer but much slower and unresponsive. It'll likely get corrected and sorted out....eventually ;)
Great! No deal here md, way too overpriced. See you next year, will shop somewhere else.
Wow, this drop was under 80 bucks when I entered the first time... the options aren't even as nice.
This is kinda dumb, I wouldn’t consider going from FRN S110V to G10 S30V an upgrade. Also, going from FRN Maxamet to G10 S110V as an “upgrade” is also debatable.
@MD, FYI, your images of the Dark Blue G10 and Blue FRN are swapped.
Massdrop really screwed the pooch last go around. Some got upgrades and refunds and credits. Some got nothing. Some got an upgrade but no credit. I havent ordered anything from them since. This price is higher than last go around as well. You all have fun
Bigburly
I'm going to watch from the sidelines with you.
Not joining this time. I made out like a bandit last time though between the partial refund and massdrop credit.
Wow..... After the shit show we had here last time around, i can't believe they piggy backed this new blue box with different options onto the same product page So, if the base is now CPM-S110v, how is S30V an upgrade?
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It's also reputed to be "chippy", but again many opinions on that. Still, as "supersteels" go, S110 is more controversial than say M390 or CPM 20CV, but is also cheaper and a bit easier to find in the market, especially on Massdrop where most upgraded steel is usually S35VN.
Exactly. Losing the steel liners and changing to S30v from S35vn in the g10 native are dubious at best "improvements". Particularly since there is already a lightweight version of the knife for folks that want to forgo liners for weight reasons. Sometimes the CQI is really an improvement. They changed the Spydiechef from a steel detent ball to a ceramic one to make it entirely stainless, that was a in production change that was a definite improvement.
Just picked up my package. S30V with black G10. I received the $10 rebate so I won't complain. Nice knife for $79.99. Used my $15 checkout credit to join the Dragonfly blue box. We'll see how that one goes...
Still crickets in my mailbox.....
Just recieved, not only did I not get the s35vn but I recieved the sharpener and I had to pay $53.17 in customs fees. Not all that impressed that’s for sure.
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Just got an email from customer service. The credits are not for everyone who joined the drop. Just those that got an S30 knife. I’m fine with that. hope everyone is finally happy with this mess!
CPM S30V for me BUT I did also receive the tri-angle sharpener so I’m stoked. I joined the drop as I’m still waiting for the Gold steel drop to ship and liked the chance of winning something :-D Thanks for the Blue box MD great marketing and also for sorting out the issue with the blades
G10 s100v, no complaints from me.
Got the s110v blurple pretty cool. Anyone had any experience with 110v. Any good around food acids? Going to gift it to someone who works in a fruit and veg shop and uses her current h1 a lot.
Brand
Not sure about fruit acids but S110V is considered very stainless. She'll likely get a bit of patina if she doesn't promptly clean the blade but I would expect the S110V to perform exquisitely for fruit slicing.
After a long wait, it's finally arrived.
Aaaaand it's the base S30vn
Still on the fence on whether to return.
S_lim
lol
S_lim
I too received the base S3vn, and am also on the fence. The plastic handle has a rougher feel and seems lighter than the plastic on my brown-handled VG-10 Delica 4. Is this because the Native 4 uses a cheaper plastic? Can anyone explain the distinctions between the different plastics Spyderco uses? Their web site didn't seem to provide any information on the handle materials. Thank you.