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I have two bluewave units and one earstudio unit..... if you use either as you described without an app then you would think both are just bluetooth receivers for your headphones... but if you actually download the app for the earstudio then you will see that the bluewave does not have these options ( might be import to some that have a good set of IEM's or Headphones... depends if you like your music sounding great or just ??? ) The App settings of an earstudio is below.... and you are correct in that the bluewave only has the volume knob for its app settings... 1) Analog Volume control 2) Source Volume control 3) Input control for SE or Balanced modes 4) codec/bit sample control 5) battery display 6) L/R channel control 7) max volume control 8) Current Mode to output as preamp or headphone amp (have used the preamp mode on my WOO amps) 9) full equalizer control with 12 presets and 4 user custom presets 10) Full control of equalizer offsets (-6db /-12db) so you don't overdrive the amp stage 11) Distinctive Clear Technology (DCT) to eliminate digital noise 12) Headphone Crossfeed adjustment 13) 4 different DAC filters 14) DAC oversampling rate adjustment for clock jitter and power ripple issues 15) Ambient Sound adjustment for built-in mic 16) music only or ambient mic output volume control.. 17) mic volume control... The ambient built in mic is great if you use custom in ear monitors... that way if some one comes up and starts talking to you you can just adjust the mic and talk normally to the person... otherwise you have to pry out the IEM's.... some are very difficult to remove due to the custom build ...sometimes they feel like they are stuck... I let the kids use the Bluewave and I use the earstudio with my custom gear... I know which one is better.. and again... I am not saying the bluewave does not work.. its just that the designers originally said they had the hardware complete and was working on a APP to finish the bluewave package.... then they said they didn't have time to finish the app and it wasn't coming... so to me that says... if you buy a bluewave then your getting a unfinished product.... enjoy.. and best of luck
Let me apologize up front, as I haven't read all the posts. I watched Zeos' review of bluetooth devices (transmitters) and from what little other Ive read, this item has the potential to be very, very good. It has a couple ergonomic problems for certain. Unless some user can assuage my fears, I won't research any further.
HollowState
Hello, we since did a few things to adress ergonomy concerns, like the possibility to lock the buttons against unwanted presses and increasing the resistance slightly on the volume wheel
I sent an email to request for support but it’s been almost two weeks now and I haven’t gotten a response to my volume controller not working anymore.
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John_Titor
Hello John. I have to apologize again but I cannot find your request, I don't know what happened and I don't have your actual name and email adress so it makes it difficult. Could you send your request at info@bluewaveaudio.ca and we will arrange support for you. Sorry for the trouble. Did you try the support request trough us or trough Massdrop? just curious. as stated in the description, I believe Massdrop mention Manufacturer warranty so you can go trough us. Thanks
Pierre111
Hi pierre,
i just sent sent an email thanks
I have just received my product, as soon as I turn it on it produces a static noise through the headphones which is quite noticeable. Is that normal or do I have a faulty unit?
twscholar
Hi twscholar, send us an email at info@bluewaveaudio.ca, we will support your case, did you try it with the included impedance adapter? What is your model of ear/headphones? The version on this drop is not designed for ultra sensitive headphones but in any case we will offer you support, or refund.
Three items forced me to cancel my order:
1. APTX low latency issue. Current stopgap fix is to eliminate the feature (from mft.) 2. Sound quality can differ from one phone to another (from mft.) 3. Feedback indicates short range
hopefully they can resolve these issues, for the next version.
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Hi I confirm that as of today we do not properly support aptX LL. There is still a conflict in the provided Qualcomm stack when having Both AptX LL and AptX HD supports on the same firmware. As of lately I believe the radsone have the same limitation. We will update if a solution is found
Pierre111
Ah, good to know. Getting tech on the bleeding edge always carries this kind of risk, eh? Hopefully Qualcomm updates the firmware to enable full use of their Apt-X products soon. I still assert that I have been a happy customer since receiving my GET from the Kickstarter, and that the GET is a top-tier product for it’s category. I use and try a lot of audio gear (my posting history is all over Massdrop and Head-Fi), and I have been very satisfied with my GET.
Reviews on Amazon state that the Bluewave GET doesn't properly support aptx Low Latency, even though it's listed as compatible in the description. Did anyone here have success with aptx Low Latency?
MayoiKurayami
Hi Mayoi, we had in the past some problems with Get's crashing when using the AptX LL Codec. On our last firmware (included) we've remove the CODEC so there are no crash anymore and GET will work with AptX LL transmitter but using regular AptX, this is a workaround that is not ideal but you can at least use the device with any transmitter now. In most case tough, software video players do now adjust the video to the latency of the audio output so lipsync issues are in a lot of cases a thing of the past, depending on the setup. I will make sure to reach out to Massdrop and remove AptX LL as supported Codecs. We are still working on it tough on that case this is firmware based issue with Bluetooth 5.0 and it is fixable down the line.
the Bluewave team from the get go promised a iOS app and still has not delivered on that promise and most likely never will.... I bought two of these and then realized it was not a good setup... like buying a car without tires... WTF
If you are looking to purchase a wireless DAC/AMP then consider the earstudio one... so so much better and it is supported properly..
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What do you even need an app for? The receiver (in this case the GET or Earstudio) is paired in your source’s settings (an iPhone in this case), volume and remote control functions work on the device with existing apps, and EQ is included in most music player apps. I had a UE Boom speaker once, that had an app. You could pair the Bluetooth and use it without the app though, the app just added the ability to link two Boom together. A few Creative Labs Bluetooth devices had apps too, for EQ and a couple other DSP settings, but again they weren’t required for operation and I almost never used them except for the very versatile (and complicated) X7.
Evshrug
@Evshrug.... I have two bluewave units and one earstudio unit..... if you use either as you described without an app then you would think both are just bluetooth receivers for your headphones... but if you actually download the app for the earstudio then you will see that the bluewave does not have these options ( might be import to some that have a good set of IEM's or Headphones... depends if you like your music sounding great or just ??? ) The App settings of an earstudio is below.... and you are correct in that the bluewave only has the volume knob for its app settings... 1) Analog Volume control 2) Source Volume control 3) Input control for SE or Balanced modes 4) codec/bit sample control 5) battery display 6) L/R channel control 7) max volume control 8) Current Mode to output as preamp or headphone amp (have used the preamp mode on my WOO amps) 9) full equalizer control with 12 presets and 4 user custom presets 10) Full control of equalizer offsets (-6db /-12db) so you don't overdrive the amp stage 11) Distinctive Clear Technology (DCT) to eliminate digital noise 12) Headphone Crossfeed adjustment 13) 4 different DAC filters 14) DAC oversampling rate adjustment for clock jitter and power ripple issues 15) Ambient Sound adjustment for built-in mic 16) music only or ambient mic output volume control.. 17) mic volume control... The ambient built in mic is great if you use custom in ear monitors... that way if some one comes up and starts talking to you you can just adjust the mic and talk normally to the person... otherwise you have to pry out the IEM's.... some are very difficult to remove due to the custom build ...sometimes they feel like they are stuck... I let the kids use the Bluewave and I use the earstudio with my custom gear... I know which one is better.. and again... I am not saying the bluewave does not work.. its just that the designers originally said they had the hardware complete and was working on a APP to finish the bluewave package.... then they said they didn't have time to finish the app and it wasn't coming... so to me that says... if you buy a bluewave then your getting a unfinished product.... enjoy.. and best of luck
Almost joined this drop, but I cruised Amazon first. The earstudio doesnt look as nice but it's 100X the device. dac is great (!) And the amp drives everything from my KZ S26 to the HE 4XX. Nicely. This could have replaced my Bifrost and Valhalla 2. Buy of the decade, guyz. Real deal.
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I meant in no way to disparage your device -- I'd love to own one -- I just found this in the process of looking for yours. I wanted to crow about it's greatness, and look forward to owning The Get so I can do the same about it. Thanks for noticing and replying.
Paintcanwolf
I have a GET, and saw but haven’t tried the Earstudio. The GET is very good, so it would be hard to justify saying the Earstudio could be 100x the device. The GET was an easily noticeable improvement over the Creative E3, and even a bit nicer than the E5 in a much smaller (and less expensive) package, which really impressed me. I also have many other DAC amps (I also have a Bifrost Uber! And Mojo, and Sennheiser HDV 820, and more), and I would make the same assertion about the GET that Paintcanwolf made about the Earstudio: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/bluewave-get-wireless-dac-amp/talk/2167272 It seems the GET and Earstudio are both currently the highlight devices for small, affordable, great sounding portable Bluetooth receivers. From what I’ve read (and heard from a friend that has both), the Earstudio has a quieter background noise for really sensitive IEMs, while the GET produces more power and is better suited if you want to use fullsized headphones. Those are measurable differences. Personally, most of my headphones are fullsized, and the GET does a good job for music even against $100 wired setups. HD 650, HD 58X, HD 599, PXC 480, K712, K612, TH-X00, all of these sounded better than what I had come to expect from the ~$100 price point. The GET wasn’t quite enough on its own to supply a Fostex T50RP, but even so it did power that infamously hungry headphone better than my old iPhone 6S. Objectively, I feel the GET has some musicality “magic” compared to the sometimes flat and dull sound from my older budget amp/DACs.
I received this unit yesterday. I have tried it on my Macbook pro. It works fine on and sounds good. However, I have drop out issue when connecting with my phone. My phone is Huawei P20 pro which support aptX HD. I put my phone on the rear pocket and the GET on the front pocket. It starts to drop out. It even happens when I put the phone and the unit side by side. It does not have any problem on the Macbook pro, not even a single drop. But for the phone with aptX HD, the drop out issue is very severe. My phone does not have option to turn off aptX HD. Maybe, there is something to do with aptX HD decoding? I can't test it without aptX HD for phone. I have updated to the latest firmware. I hope it's fixable by firmware update.
Zhliu
Hi Zhilu, drop us an email at info@bluewaveaudio.ca we will do everything to assist you. AptX HD works very well on Our LG G5 and on our Sony nW-A45 so it's not an issue with the decoding but we acknoledge that the performance vary on some devices. We are working on this on our end as well but the performance is not equal across the board so the performance has to also be questioned on some implementation on the source side. I'm not saying there's nothing we can do tough in any case the data is important for us and in the event we can't make it work for you to a satisfactory level we can refund your purchase.
The app has been “in the works“ for over a year. Don’t hold your breath on it. like at all. As well, after spending so many hours with this device, all I can say is it isn’t worth this price nor the price they charge on their website. If you want something like this, I guess this is as inexpensive as this one will cost. But I can tell you from experience that it is a disappointment. The connectivity issues and cost make this a non-starter.
epsonblade
Hi EpsonBlade, if you have connectivity issues in your setup we can refund you, most people have stable connection.
One day this DAC will have an Equalizer. I reached out to the bluewave audio team and this is what I was told "We're planning to have an equalizer in the app but unfortunately, there is no ETA on release yet." Hopefully it will become available soon!
hope this item work nicely with my iems n headphones, mayb with my room audio system too. pls kindly do a Quality Check before shipping off to international address. thank you in advance.
Mine arrives Saturday, cant wait to use this little guy while walking the disc golf course.
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Sorry to hear that, no pun intended. I will pray that you feel BETTER, and that your hearing returns to normal.
Srdavis1963
Thank you. My first ENT doctor basically took my money and did nothing. Then wanted to set up a separate appointment to take more money for a 3 minute hearing test they could have done on the spot. He seriously just said his hands are tide. When I asked about the pain he said it might go away or it might be permanent. He didnt even discuss the tinnitus. I found a good ENT doctor this week and he diagnosed me with Recruitment in my left ear. He prescribed me Prednisone and I have to not listen to anything for the next couple of months. Walking around everywhere with ear plugs and my Sony WH-1000XM2(freaking life saver for me now) on. Hopefully my nerve hairs fully restore. Of course I just got my Empire Ears Bravado iem's back from the shop today. Making a date in October to finally listen to them again. Man I cant wait.

EDIT: I forgot to mention the pain from the gain being too loud slowely went away. I still had tinnitus but thought I was in the clear. Went to the indoor gun range and my hearing protection did nothing. When I fired that gun the sound wave destroyed my hearing. For the next week after that I was almost deaf, yet anything above a male voice would be so loud to me it hurt my ear. I couldnt listen to my fiance speak without it hurting my ears. Couldnt flush the toilet. It was bad, and super painful. The hearing has came back mostly over the past 6 days. Yet the noise sensitivity, pain, and tinnitus is still there. The tinnitus sound is at 12-13khz in my ear at a pretty high level now. I found another doctor after this happened and went to him instead.
So this Amp is for iem? What about 600ohm headphones?
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Was the last drop the High gain version?
Syrahcaz
The very last drop was the Hi gain, The first 2 drops where lower gain. to make it clear if you paid the current 85$ price you have the hi gain
How does this compare to EarStudio ES100?
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Yes, you're right! I had to actually watch the video on the Amazon.com page to see a mention of the mic. They don't mention it in the detailed product description, not even in the specifications. How weird. Thanks for clarifying.
diyaudio
I've been trying quite a few Bluetooth enabled DACs. I just had a iFi xDSD delivered. I have to say it's even a better solution for pure audio than both of these. It doesn't have a mic though that I can find. Does MQA and has a dual mono amp section. Pretty killer Bluetooth DAC.
I'd like to post here that we have a new firmware update that can be downloaded here. https://www.bluewaveaudio.ca/get-firmware-updates/?v=3e8d115eb4b3
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You hold the round button and the down arrow (RWD) for 5 sec, you will see the lights alternate blue and Yellow and the buttons are locked. You do the same to Toggle back and use the buttons
Pierre111
You should add this information to your documentation if you haven't already.
Is this confirmed to be the high gain version? The high gain version from the Bluewave site states that it comes with the impedance adapter, so is it safe to assume that this is definitely the high gain model?
EJK23
Hi EJK23, Yes we'll send Hi gain (3.1) version.
Has anyone got this and have / had a Elecom LBT-PAR150 as to comment on if this would be worth purchasing as an upgrade?
Been looking for something like this for a long time, BT 5.0 is the deal sealer for me.
It's a shame it's only a .2A battery, is it running at 3.7v? I think I'll tear it down and add a decent sized battery to it, thinking 1-2ah, maybe even strap a couple 18650's to it and go for 6-7ah. Is there any reason why I shouldn't do this (apart from warranty) @bluewave?
Also can I answer calls through my inline IEM mic, and will those buttons work (on inline mics)? Thanks!
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kierans
That thing is damn tiny, man, a 1-2ah battery will probably be about the size of the device itself or bigger, lol! You might be able to go for 300mah or something at most, although that's no guarantee that you'll get 50% more usability between charges depending on how this thing is designed.
Valensilius_Zephyrus
I really don't recommend playing with battery size, we have a battery connector that is not something custom for us but the type of plug would not come with off the shelf batteries, so it's not just soldering to a pcb, there is a socket. I also confirm that the battery that is in there is the biggest that would fit in and having a battery covering the antenna area would be a bad Idea, there is no way to fit a 300mAH in the Get
This is a steal at this price...I just picked up a used one and it's awesome.
Quick question about included accessories; but aside from the impedence cable and a usb charging cable, are there any other accessories included? On the site they sell a 2.5mm or 3.5mm mounting kit that comes with a couple of cables and a bigger clip. Within the kit descriptions it says that these accessories are also included in new orders from their site. Can somebody confirm if these extra cables and clips are also included in the Massdrop orders?
Still a steal either way at this price...think the high impedence version on their site is like $140 by comparison.
Thanks!
EJK23
Hi EJK23, the Headset mounting kits are not included, neither they are on the website, what we are saying in the description is that the kits when purchased with a Get don't have any extra shipping because they ship together (maybe we can try to be clearer). Since we figured no one would purchase these accessories if they don't own a Get, and for situations like yours, we decided to wave shipping charges to everybody to make it simple
Can you rewind to previous or forward to next track using the remote ?
Maciekmiszkiel
Yes a click skip to next or previous, a hold fast forward or rewind trough the current track.
I wonder if the drop out issues are due to the reciever pairing with more than one device.
I have a handful of different Bluetooth 4.2 receivers. Some cut out when connected to more than one device at the same time.
My workaround is to make sure the Bluetooth is off on all of the nearby devices I have synced to the receiver, making sure it's only connected to one source.
This solves the problem for me everytime
Oh man, this came off cheaper than the last time I got it and now come with impendance adapter. I think the $99 price last time already offer a great value, at $84.99 with the impendance adapter (I think you'll need this if you use sensitive IEM), this is a steal.
Slightly disappointed with how quick the price drops and a much better offer after < 2 months. But oh well... :)
I would just like to make a point about some comments mentioning some range/dropouts issues. First there is a video a few post down demonstrating the normal range and antenna performance that our device normally offer. That's the performance the vast majority of our customers get. Now, a couple of points. Bluetooth 5 is very very new. We have I believe the first (the only?) receiver that comply to Bluetooth 5, in theory it gives a lot of advantages and it IS backward compatible, but as with anything new, everybody else has to adjust too and since there are so few devices that uses it, in some cases there are still some glitchy particular edge cases. In any case your satisfaction is guaranteed you will not be stucked with a device that don't work well for you. Antenna systems are always a 2 ends thing every cases are different and range will vary, according to numerous parameters as it's a transition period. Patches are being developped, Operating systems adjust and we are working hard on our end as well to find what we can do on our end to understand and resolve those isolated cases issues. They are isolated cases, a couple thousand units are being used everyday without problems, for those who do experiment problem, most of them should be resolved and I'm quite certain than in a few month when BT5 become a more common thing all of this will be a thing of the past. Again it's a transition and everything else you use has to adapt. That doesn't mean you should be satisfied and just wait till it get fix. We want all of you to enjoy Get and we want you to enjoy it now. If some of you find it's not performing for your use case you should write to us about it and we'll do what's possible and if not you'll get refunded. We do know that issues are isolated cases and they are being worked on.
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The firmware has just got updated on our website so even tough you have a new unit it's not the last version. The behaviour you describe is not normal, contact us at info@bluewaveaudio.ca and we will support you.
Pierre111
Nope, did not fix any of the drop out issues. Gonna stop trying to fix it and just live with it then. Thanks though!
I recently received my Bluewave GET and... wow... super disappointed.
I am having significant dropout issues on both my phone and PC Bluetooth -- issues that do not happen with other Bluetooth devices. If I'm ~8 feet away or so, it starts to drop out, and if I'm moving around (even if the phone is literally in my pocket and the Bluewave is clipped to my shirt) it drops as well - which is bad for a device I'd like to use when I'm jogging or working out. Also, there is significant hiss coming through on my headphones, both my IEMs and more sensitive headphones, and it's very annoying - I don't get that level of hiss from other sources. Almost everything I've plugged into it, save for some high impedance Sennheiser cans, has some degree of noticeable white noise hissing, which is louder and more annoying than what I get from the actual headphone jack on my PC or phone.
I will say that when it's working correctly, the sound is very good, and I didn't know such quality was possible over Bluetooth, and I was excited at the potential for such a device. However in any actual real-life use case I have for this thing, it seems to fail. I'm not going to sit still at a desk, 2 feet from the source with heavy, high impedance headphones on my head just to use this thing. I don't know if the one I have is defective or what, but I'm quite disappointed in the product and I guess I'll look into a return if that's possible.
mpbean
Hi Mp, will give you support, and accept return if we can't solve your issues. Contact us at info@bluewaveaudio.ca
Pierre111
Thank you for the response, as well as your responses and support to others in this discussion thread. I appreciate a company that stands behind its products, even if I'm having problems with that product. In the future I would at least be willing to give them another shot due to good customer service.
As to my issue - I emailed you at that address already, before posting in the discussion here.
Dropout is pretty severe with the unit I received. If my phone is in my right pocket and the get is clipped to the left pocket and my hand moves in front of the get it will cut out. My phone is a Pixel running 8.1.0. It also cuts out at a similar distance when paired with my PC so I seriously doubt the range/signal strength issue is due to both my phone and PC. Sound quality when working properly is quite good and the volume is fine when using Bluetooth on both the phone and PC and while being used as a usb DAC with the PC, however when using as a USB otg DAC with the phone it's essentially unusable due to the volume being too low. I've seen some reports of the volume wheel being loose however that is not the case with mine, the wheel is on the tighter side which is fine for me. All of the buttons seem to function properly and are easy to distinguish from one another by feel. I would prefer to have the 3.5mm jack on top as I would rather have it clipped to pants pocket as aposed to somewhere on my shirt which is why I assume it is on the bottom. I haven't been able to test battery life due to the connection issues. I will email the manufacturer about a replacement and hopefully the Bluetooth signal will be stronger on the next one because otherwise it is solidly built, easy to use and sounds good.
DAXK
Hi DaxK contact us at info@bluewaveaudio.ca we'll be able to assist you
Just get a Radsone ES100!
I've had the Get for a couple of days now & overall, I'm happy with the unit. I have to say that, for the first time in my life, I now have a wireless connection that offers an improvement over a wired connection as it pertains to my phone. I didn't think it was possible but that's what I'm hearing. More detail, smoother & a little bit more volume. I tried it with low impedance IEM's & with high impedance audiophile grade OEM's. The overall results were consistent.
Now I will address the issues..........
1. I do wish that the amp was more powerful. The first 50% of the volume dial is absolutely useless & this was consistent across all headphones. Yes, it does over a slight improvement in volume over a direct connect but I wish that it was more. Truth be told, I would accept a lesser battery life for a more powerful amp section. In any case, this is a minor issue.
2. The dropout problem is real. While I can reliably get a stable signal for the typical 10m, it has to be line of sight. I haven't had the unit outdoors yet to see if it can do better. Walls are causing issues. This is especially true as you get farther away from the source. To be fair, my walls are particularly thick made from a concrete/plaster mix but I don't have this issue to the same extent with any of my other BT headphones. I strongly suspect that the problems relate to the metal portion of the housing for this device. It seems to make the device somewhat directional & sensitive to movements. I was able to cause dropouts by covering the metal cap with my hand when at 10+m. I have one other set of BT headphones that exhibit some of this behavior (but not to the same degree) & they have metal caps on their housings. Coincidence? I think not!
I have one other self contained BT IEM's that run v4.2 & exhibit none of the dropout issues. The BT components are housed in plastic & when in an outdoor environment, I can get a stable signal up 30m away, line of sight. The only time that I remotely have any dropout issues with them is in high signal congested areas.
The bottom line is that this is a wonderful sounding unit with dropout issues . Using it an a wireless option for commuting where all components are in close proximity will negate most of the dropout issues IMHO.
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Thanks for the info! Curious that Android 7.0 would have problems........ I really want to do some range testing outdoors but the weather here has been dismal. I don't think that my phone will optimally support an upgrade to a higher Android version. It is 3yo after all & that's almost ancient in technology terms these days. I'm eligible for a phone upgrade but I've been hesitant because I work outdoors a lot & this phone has been bulletproof. Having to upgrade to a glass backed phone with more than likely lesser sound quality has me apprehensive. Maybe a LG V30+ or an HTC 12 is in my future.......
MaverickAH
We will support you with possible tweaks, dom't upgrade your phone just yet. You will not have 30m tough, range varies from source devices but we don't reach this far
I pre-ordered a pair before these showed up on Massdrop. So far they've been fantastic on what they've been marketing towards! My only issue is that with sensitive low impedance IEM's, there is a large static noise in the background whenever music is playing.
I have tried the impedance adapter they sent free of charge ($5 shipping) and it doesn't eliminate it entirely. It helps but its still annoying at low volumes or when playing orchestral music. I highly recommend the iEMatch by iFi Audio, it eliminates the static noise entirely on the ultra setting on my IEM's (Klipsch Image R6).
While an extra $50 to get this to work properly with IEM's is not ideal for everyone, I would say that the Bluewave GET is worth it even with this extra item when using IEM's.