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Cayin MT-12N EL84EH Integrated Amplifier
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Cayin MT-12N EL84EH Integrated Amplifier
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In the latest version of Cayin’s highly regarded MT-12N amplifier, components take center stage. The biggest stars are four EL84 power tubes from Electro Harmonix—one matched pair per channel—famous for their sweet and musical tone Read More
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keyboard_arrow_downrumata13
563
Feb 27, 2021
Looks interesting, but I have 2 questions:
1) Why are photos of such bad quality that we can't see what's written on the front panel and back?
2) How is it possible that power output if the same at 8 ohms and 4 ohms?
- "Output power (RMS) at 4 and 8 ohms: 9W + 9W"
Fayne
2587
Mar 1, 2021
Ugh. I really wanted this one to be point to point. Oh well, I'm still keeping my order. Worst case, I strip their board out and put my own circuit in place.
Fayne
2587
Mar 1, 2021
Keep in mind, all the pictures and everything we're seeing is for the model that comes with 6P1. This model is using EL84/6P14, so internals may be different.
Fayne
2587
Mar 1, 2021
Yeah, should be. Is a Class AB circuit in an ultra-linear configuration.
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Aegis700
19
Mar 1, 2021
FayneThanks Fayne, I always trust your analysis. I usually try to avoid push pull models because they produce too mane odd order harmonics whereas with a tube amp, the euphony we seek is due to even order harmonics. I wonder if this push pull model (which usually tend to be the higher power tube amps) will have less odd order harmonics. Thanks!
rumata13
563
Aug 4, 2022
Couple questions:
1) all search results show photos of this amp with wood panel with metal insert, while Drop offers one in all aluminum. Which one are we going to get?
2) what are typical use cases for this amp? With only 9W/ch it does not look powerful. What kind of speakers should be paired with this amp?
Mike333
1
Feb 17, 2024
Vintage Sansui 4000 here, I did not think I needed this amp either, glad I bought it. I am using Zu DW6 Supreme speakers, very happy and would recommend this amp to friends and family. ;-)
Fayne
2587
Feb 27, 2021
Oh yeah. Perfect timing with that $200 credit left over from the HD8xx. I'm a great big ol sucker for Tube amps and have been sitting on a factory sealed box of (50 count) 6P14P-EV (Russian high reliability and vibration tolerant EL84) for just something like this. I really wish they had pictures of the wiring so I could see what level of abomination I was getting into, but hey, Cayin is a pretty good Chinese brand. Plus this sucker (EDIT: possibly) uses point to point wiring, so if anything goes wrong (other than trafo fry) it may be pretty simple to repair.
I can absolutely live with shipping at the beginning of April.
MINE
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Fayne
2587
Mar 5, 2021
owenhuuI've actually been thinking about making one. Voltage dividers are crazy easy, and there are a bunch of reasonably priced low wattage tube amps that'd probably sound pretty awesome over high Ω cans.
Edit:
Here is an example of how to do it. The site is ugly, but the maths are right.
https://diyaudioheaven.wordpress.com/tutorials/power-amp-adapter/
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LS35a
34
Mar 5, 2021
I asked the Cayin importer about this. He said he knew nothing about it and it would not receive any warranty or service work from him. Drop has become just another gray market importer. So much for 'we work with companies to sell products'.
marcel54
15
Jan 14, 2023
Again Drop is only for the US. When wil it finally come for "us". This is the third time it is sold at 110 volt. A large part of the world is not at 110 voltage.
Fayne
2587
Aug 3, 2022
El_NagualMaybe, assuming you've got an adapter with a resistor network designed for push-pull. If you bridge the ground/negative of the left and right channels without the proper protection, you'll likely release some high voltage magic smoke.
If you're looking for a push-pull tube amp to drive those planar cans, I'd suggest instead looking at something like the Muzishare i3 which comes with both single-ended and balanced headphone jacks on the front along with 8Ω terminals on the back. That unit uses 6N2 and 6P1 tubes to push ~12 watts instead of the 6N1, 12AX7, and 6P14 that the Cayin does for ~9-10 watts. The balanced out is a bit too powerful for most sensitive low Ω dynamic cans, but does extremely nice things for planar which are current dependent more than voltage.
If you're into tube rolling the i3 is a bit more limited than the MT-12N, but you're at least able to roll to something like the great sounding Voskhod 6N2P-EV and Svetlana 6P1P-EV tubes (shown in picture below). 6P1 tubes are electrically equivalent to 6V6 and 6AQ5, just 9-pin noval and dang sweet sounding. 6N2 are very similar to 12AX7, just 6 volt instead of 12.
Pardon the dust in the photo, I'd take a new one, but this amp recently lost it's spot on my desk to a Schiit Folkvangr:
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Jefffeith
27
Oct 6, 2022
Kyo9999This amp sounds very powerful with my Klipsch Heresy IVs. Effortless actually and more powerful and dynamic than my 75 watt Marantz. I’d imagine at 92.5db the Focals would sing.
marcel54
15
Aug 3, 2022
have been waiting a long time for this after the previous shipment of 110 volt. When by chance will the 220 volt be shipped. The world is bigger than the USA although some may disagree with this statement. ;)
Fayne
2587
Feb 28, 2021
Der_KlaviermannSeems that way, but with the 6P1 changed to 6P14. Other than the socket wiring to accept the EL84/6P14, I'm betting the only difference is the cathode resistor used to bias the tubes. It is typically the only change needed to switch between 6P1/6V6G/6AQ5 and 6P14/EL84 in most lower end circuits.
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