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Drop + Fostex T-X0 II Planar Magnetic Headphones

Drop + Fostex T-X0 II Planar Magnetic Headphones

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How do you like your sound? Our latest Fostex collab, the T-X0 II headphones allow you to tune the sound signature just how you like it—from bass-heavy hip-hop tracks to light classical music.

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Artismo
472
Jun 19, 2019
People are going to see the new logo and think it’s actually instructions.
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ChumbWumba
271
Jun 22, 2019
ArtismoIt's all a part of the process..trust the process 🤷🏼‍♂️😂
tcl8to7
24
Jun 18, 2019
8 months - are you freaking kidding me. I will never wait that long for a development project. Fund your own project and then sell it to us!
muajeng
8
Jun 19, 2019
You said it, I waited 6 months for my 58X Jubilee's, heh.
tcl8to7Status: They have finalized the design, that's what the few samples are... now they need to actually mass produce that design. Sourcing all the different materials, making all the parts, testing, packaging and shipping headphones takes about this long. As @ElectronicVices said, this was also true for Sennheiser, AKG, and Focal... it's just how long headphones take to make, especially the first run.
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Marvey.Purrin
214
Jun 21, 2019
LOL. I'm totally late on this. This is the latest iteration of the Fostex T50RP series from Drop. Christian sent them to me a while back to get my take. At first, I thought they sounded like ass. However, I noted that the package came with a set of thin pads and a set of thick pads and two pieces of foam inserts that surround the face of the driver. One pad is artificial leather and the other is leather hybrid. I think the artificial leather pads are the thin pads that I eventually decided upon. (Christian, correct me if I am wrong). Christian suggested that I use the thin pads and the denser #15 foam instead of what the headphone happened to come installed with. This was actually an improvement. A good enough improvement where I felt the Fostex T-X0 II had the potential to rival even the Paradox headphones that LFF used to sell. Using this set of the thin pad and thick foam, the Fostex sounded slightly V-shaped, with a bit more emphasis in the highs than the lows. I dislike bright headphones, so I went to work on modifications. I suggested to Christian various approaches; however, Christian indicated that they could only do so much to keep the costs under control and not have Fostex go to the ends of the earth to find suitable modding material. Those who have followed the Fostex T50RP thread on HF know how crazy it can get with modding materials (most of which do nothing to the sound or just probably make it worse). So I decided on a KISS (keep it simple stupid) approach that would only utilize materials included inside the box and readily available household items. The first step was to re-use the spare piece of #10 foam. I cut the foam in such a way that would fit inside the cup of the headphone like below. Stuffing the cavity with absorbing materials of these Fostex headphones brings down the highs and especially the lows so that they are more in line with the mids.
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After subjective evaluation, I felt this was a good improvement. The mids were less sucked out, The bass sounded very accurate. However, the highs still needed just a little bit of help. I knew exactly what do to next. I source 2-ply TP (I think Target brand) and cut out a square to lay in front of the driver. The pads with a think black mesh that goes over the baffle to secure the TP, so there is no need to worry about the TP falling out.
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So I'll get straight to the FR measurements:
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'Nuff said. (Very close to neutral, no bass bloat, better extension, a little dip around 3kHz, the BBC dip, and very very smooth highs.) P.S. I wanted to get to the point quickly. I'll present more comprehensive sets of measurements in a bit. More technical discussion can be expected here in the next few days: https://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/fostex-t-x0-ii-headphones.7972/#post-261695
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rslatara
287
Aug 17, 2019
Marvey.PurrinHail the Catman! The RP driver is capable of much better sound than stock, these cups put it in another league.
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Narthan
0
Apr 15, 2020
rslataraWhat cups are those?
Amensmasher
25
Jun 19, 2019
from reading the reviews, these are essentially the t60rp without the wooden cup, balanced connection, but include extra foam pads and ear pads at $100 less. I own a pair of t60rp, and 2 pairs of Argons MKII. so i have no need for these. If you do not need balance and not looking to get a huge sound stage, the T-XO II will do just fine, you saved about $100 from the Argon mods or from the T60RP. I had found a pair of T50RP MKII and a T20RP MKII for around $60 each. Sent them to Ryan to get them modded for $120 each with nice pads. (non balance). And let me tell you, ModHouse can make magic with the MKIIs. I have yet listen to the Argon MKIII to make a comparison, but I am very satisfy with the purchase. These exist because the T50RP MKIIs are difficult to find cheap. and with the mod cost, you minus well get these and mod them yourself. I also own a pair of HiFiman HE5SE. and HE400i which at this time are my favorite sub $300/$200 planar for Critical Listening. My Argons are for gaming and fun listening sessions. And I use my T60RP when I use it with my Balanced DAC/AMP.
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Mexpat
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Jun 25, 2019
Great description. How will you compare the sound between the Vibrolabs and the Argons?
rslatara
287
Jun 27, 2019
MexpatSound is not as wide but feels like you are in a tall room with all the instruments well spaced out. Mids are clearer and there is more sub bass emphasis over mid bass on the Argon. Like any T50 it is open to tuning and I just put in some of the standard materials with the tuning kit. The one negative is removable connectors don't play nice with the cups angled edge so I am putting in a quality cable with XLR + XLR-1/4" adapter of some sort on my next build. I think Luke will revise the designs as time goes on and incorpoarte the connector but his finish on the cups and tuning material is top notch.
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motod
145
Jun 18, 2019
is anyone able to compare these bad boys to the dekoni blue version of the T50RPmk3? i'm curious if the sound signature is different enough to warrant a purchase. (i'm also concerned the protein pads might be too shallow; the dekoni blue version's installed velour pads feel great to me, fwiw.)
rslatara
287
Jun 19, 2019
Should be $150.
rslatara
287
Jun 19, 2019
Yea just stick with the hybrids as they are unique.
Arjestin
362
Jun 25, 2019
In case you're considering these for an Argon mod, Ryan from Mod House Audio confirmed that these do have the mk3 version drivers: "Yeah, that is a mk3 driver, so the end result would be the same as a normal mk3 - except it would of course have the blacked out look of the TX0."
rslatara
287
Jul 28, 2019
ArjestinShould of had a MK3 headband like the Dekoni.
Hyde
1121
Jul 31, 2019
rslataralol I agree, I had the MK3 and never had comfort issue regarding the headband.
SaskAudioGuy
438
Jul 7, 2019
Decisions decisions... These are basically buy and mod. The HE4XXs are buy and pray they don't fall apart. If you were to do the wooden cup mod and the balanced wiring on them, how would they compare to the HE4XX? I was leaning towards the HEs but the falling apart worries are there and I've heard they can wander into sibilence territory easily.
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SaskAudioGuy
438
Jul 18, 2019
That makes sense. I mostly thought it weird because the previous gaming card Asus made was rated for 9V so I went digging. At least I know the card is capable of pushing some power. So I can take some time picking out an amp. I guess I've got to decide what to do shortly about these headphones. The shipping is really cheap to Canada and I've got credits to use... I'm going to spend some time digging around online answer the all important question... How long do these drivers last in use?
SaskAudioGuyMy HE500's are coming up on 7 years old and doing flawlessly. My Sine is 3 years old and doing well. They don't have anything that should "wear out" as far as construction goes. If the solder points are solid it should last a very long time.
cglin222
55
Jun 20, 2019
I got T-X0 and couldn't bare the sound and sent in for argon mod. I don't know how well is the T-X0II using MK3, but I read that some where they said it's comparable to T60rp? but that's 180+tax which is 200 if you are in the US. Just get the t60rp from amazon japan directly for around 250, at least it's wood cup and balanced jack
Noldir
82
Jul 5, 2019
cglin222Did the Argon mod improve this much? Thinking of either this drop or sending my pair in for a mod
cglin222
55
Jul 5, 2019
NoldirThe t-x0 had too much subbass at least for my taste I feel everything in the low end is muffled and too much but argon sounds different Below is my question to Ryan What about imaging and instrument separation? I wanted something that's wide for a closed can and separation that won't affect vocal Would you say tx0 still fits better in this regard?  His answer I would say both models still fit that description, but I would still recommend the tx0rp. I personally perceive the mk2 has having a slightly larger sound stage, but that is somewhat dependant on hearing. The mk2 has a little more treble than mk3 and I would say that is their main distinction. Hope this helps! Ryan 
PolygonBronson
195
Jun 18, 2019
This is an interesting drop but this doesn't seem like a very good deal if you don't preorder and only an okay deal if you do. A stock T50RP MKIII can be had for $150 (or less if you are patient, I got mine for under $100) and after buying some better pads and a cable it's going to be about $180. Other modding materials are going to be pretty cheap (modeling clay, foam, cotton, etc.). I understand that this drop comes with 2 sets of pads and extra foam disks but will still need a better, non-locking, cable. However, when this drop goes up to it's regular price it makes way less sense. At $220 that's $20 more than a Dekoni Blue which also comes with 2 sets of pads (and Dekoni pads are awesome quality). But here is the real kicker, if you jump up $80 to $300 that will get you the T60RP which has wood cups, a balanced connection, and, according to many, the best version of the T50RP that's available right now. Period. So at $150 (the original price for the first T-X0 drop) this drop would make a ton of sense and at $180, it's an okay deal if you don't want to buy your own pads. However, at the full price of $220, I really don't see the point with the cheaper Dekoni Blue and much upgraded T60RP so close in price. Just my 2 cents.
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amekan47
2
Jun 19, 2019
PolygonBronsonGoing by the comments here these actually sound more like the t60rp
gamerjnb925
2
Jun 17, 2019
Can anyone comment on the leakage for these? Particularly how they would be in an office environment?
Well, a planar or a dynamic headphone with 32 Ω (Ohm) or 50 Ω doesn't need a ton of voltage to overcome the ohms of resistance. If I understand this right, with most amps, you "set" the voltage with your volume dial, while the current is allowed to fluctuate depending on what the music demands. Swelling crescendo in an orchestral movement? More current required. Water pipe too small? You can keep turning open your shower taps, but at some point you don't get any more water. The crescendo will seem to hit a ceiling and everything sounds like it's compressed into a smaller, duller range of volume.
Planar headphones are typically both low impedance and low sensitivity which requires a higher proportion of current than low impedance high sensitivity headphones. As there aren't a ton of low impedance low sensitivity dynamic driver designs the generality of "planars need more current" holds.
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