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Erato Verse True Wireless Stereo Bluetooth Earbuds

Erato Verse True Wireless Stereo Bluetooth Earbuds

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Seems like the metal housing is killing the bluetooth connection. I'd buy these for the gym/sleep for the form factor if the reviews were better.
Curious if these include LDAC or AptX HD. Not seeing either one in the description so assuming no. Dang. I'm in the market for some true wireless buds with LDAC.
Got these last month - I mostly use them for listening to podcasts but I still consider the audio quality complete crap (comparing to my other low end wireless buds the BRAGI headphone). Connectivity isn't amazing either. I do like the size and the charging case. Definitely no issues with volume.
I have these and the sound on them are pretty nice. For the price, you get wireless freedom and good decent SQ, its a win. I had Jaybirds before and these are way better sound. I have them on at 70% volume only and they are loud enuff..
Anyone have the TRND Labs NOVA to compare these too? https://www.trndlabs.com/product/nova-true-wireless-earbuds/
I do have the NOVA and have been rather happy with them, best bang/buck I've found in this segment still (truly wireless, case recharging earbuds); but as an audiophile, i'm still hoping for better audio quality. My wired JVC Marshmallows FX-34's still blow all of these out of the water in terms of SQ. So if these things sound better than Nova I'd consider 'em for sure!
I just can't convince myself to buy an audio product that doesn't list it's frequency range and such. I'd really like to get a good pair of wireless earbuds, but most of the truly wireless ones read like a scam.
I've been tempted by these in the past accept for the poor reviews. Then I realize, Just spend the extra $50 and get Apple Airpods. They would work better with my iPhone anyways.
glennac
Right, they're great if you don't mind lack of isolation. Very convenient. I've ignored all other in-ear buds so far because they compromise battery life and connectivity while the Airpods use the stem for battery and antennae. If you don't mind the cable and need isolation, I got the Shure BT1 and it was excellent.
glennac
Yes.. The Airpod are a perfect compliment to your Iphone but the sound on them are awful and weak. Lacking loudness and everything else which will ruin your listening experience. It's your call.
How do we return this item? Mine is defective! I have tried to contact the manufacturer to no avail!!!! :(
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same situation here. massdrop made it right but erato couldn’t be bothered to respond to multiple emails.
AdamB
I would suggest Massdrop not do business with that company again. It's not in their best interest.
So It mentioned that I wouldn’t be charged until the drop was complete and item was shipped, so why was I charged today?
ebernal
You’re charged once the drop ends. Not when the item is shipped. It’s like that for everything on MD
Reading some reviews seem to confirm what was a red flag for me when perusing the specs.
3 hours playtime and 15 hours standby.
Add to this - slow charging and ill fitting for some, clearly a disadvantage for what should be something designed to be portable and provide reasonable function in the real world.
Pass.....
these products are crap. the right bud cant stay connected and the left bud drops a few times per song. dont get these if you plan on walking or moving your head at all.
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i would be willing to tough it out if it was only once per song or something but it sometimes is near constant, to the point where it is clearly a faulty pair. i tried to get in contact with the company for a replacement and they wouldnt answer, which leads me to assume they know what their product is like and are unwilling to work with customers to correct. fortunately massdrop offered me a full refund.
cl4ptp
I'm having the exact issues you mention!!! VERY UNHAPPY :(
I love these, sound and portability wise. Unfortunately out of my phone they are not loud enough for riding a bike through the city. Or even when in my car. In quiet environments like an office they are perfect, I just wish my work day was only 3 hours. As it is they probably not enough for my needs.
naviicam
Not sure on iOS, but on Android phones there are apps to increase the volume, which may be just what you need. I have another pair of BT earphones, and while they sound nice, they are underpowered, so I use an app to increase volume for them
They need to bring these back
I've been really impressed with these so far. Very nice sound, and no issues with connectivity (at least in the past few days I've owned them). I will say the action of the buttons is NOT intuitive, as with other BT earbuds, but I can adapt to that. Also, the fit is a little funny, they're not really shaped like the ear they're designed to fit. But, once they're in, they work well, and the sound is excellent. Battery life is fine, and the charging case is a cool addition, and works well. But, I've not taken them "to the limit" so to speak yet, but I have no reason to believe they won't fit their niche well for me.
Here's the review I posted on Amazon after picking these up here, on Massdrop.
These buds have some very important strengths, but also a couple of critical flaws. UPDATE: after a month, the weak connection between buds (dropping the right bud) is a constant irritant. The mic isn't as bad as I thought (see below) but it's still terrible outdoors or where there's ambient noise: you need a quiet room or the caller will hear everything at almost equal volume. The battery duration is tolerable but the buds' charge rate in the cradle is definitely too slow -- once you run the battery low, you're done for a while. Sound quality remains the high point. Still three stars. ORIGINAL REVIEW: Strengths: The sound quality, especially in music, is a high point. Playing Justin Timberlake's "Say Something" produces distortion-free low-frequency that rivals my Shure E5C buds. The Verse buds are not as neutral as the Shures, but the very-low frequencies in that tune come through more clearly and with greater impact on the Verse buds (the Shures are better on high frequencies, but not by a huge margin). I'm genuinely surprised about this performance. Absolutely did not expect it. Pairing is easy and the units are generally easy to use (they turn on and connect without hassle). They fit snugly (no bouncing or wiggling out) without causing uncomfortable pressure. I've worn them for four hours straight at work, without discomfort. Neutral: Battery life is adequate. The buds run for three or four hours playing music. The problem of course is they then must be recharged, so you're stuck switching to wired buds or waiting. Charge rate is too slow. The buds themselves -- especially the left one, which does all the communicating with the phone -- take too long to recharge. The case holds enough power to recharge them a couple of times before you need to plug the case back in. I can't tell whether it charges the buds and case simultaneously (good) or sequentially (bad). I'll update if I figure this out. Balancing size and battery life is tough. I want another hour and faster charging. But keeping them small is also valuable. So this is a wash. Weaknesses: The right bud briefly loses connection with the left (primary) bud frequently. This results in a two-second cut where the right bud cuts for a split second and then fades back in. Very distracting when listening to music. If it was a rare problem, that would be one thing. But, while intermittent, it happens an average of several times an hour. My momma always said I had a thick skull, but Erato really needed to nail down the pairing between buds to avoid this problem. This problem alone is almost enough to warrant returning them. The mic for talking performs inconsistently. Some people report that I sound muffled and that they can hear sounds like someone is tapping on the mic. Testing at home, the mic worked fine, and in other situations it was okay as well. The buds are not good at eliminating noise: if you're outside, everyone will know it. That's fairly mature technology, generally, so I expected better performance in noise reduction. I need the mic to perform well and consistently for business, so I'm frustrated about the mic on this product. The back (base? bottom? rear?) of the bud, which faces out of your ear and is where the charging contacts are, has a sharp edge all around, which is the only thing about these buds that's uncomfortable. It can cut into your ear where the bud rests. It might also contribute to keeping the bud seated in the ear, but I'd prefer the rim a bit more rounded off. Summary: + Great sound quality for music + Easy pairing + Acceptable battery life + Slow charging + Unreliable microphone I bought them on Massdrop, so returning them isn't easy. If I bought them on Amazon, I'm not sure whether I'd return and try another pair. I suspect the music sound quality is unusually good for wireless buds. I'll probably keep them and use them until Bluetooth 5 buds are common, and then I might try another pair.
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Thanks for the info. I just saw a new drop and it is for Acoustic Research earbuds. I will go for them and not the Erato for sure. AR used to be a great company and their new DAP's are very nice. I will try out these.
BionicTulip
I've had these for almost 3 months now. I finally got the manufacturer to respond (third inquiry) and RMA the first set of buds because the right bud simply could not maintain connection. It seemed to become progressively worse.
The new set arrived today (6/5/18).
Same problem, evident within the first 10 seconds, and no less frequent.
I must recommend avoiding this product.
Howdy Everyone, We have extended this drop through the weekend. The original expected shipping date was March 30th. The new expected shipping date is March 27th so the wait time has been shortened by 3 days. Cheers.
Impossible shipping to Spain? I am really interested in 2 units!
bought from amazon and returned.
doesnt work with comply, silicon tips have bad seal these things are huge! the charging case implementation is weird, u gotta like turn ur buds a certain angle to easily pop them in to charge sound is meh imo on phone calls, mic is near bad, sound is only right bud
i did not check range stuff since i was already disappointed by other factors.
testing the jabra 65t atm
mass_drop_user_42
Curious how those compare to the elite sport which I have.
o5stisilver
did not have the elite sport; but here's my quick review
65t pros: very very solid connection for music; u can say it blips maybe 1-2 times a week phone is eh, in close space ie office, sound is good, outside it's hit or miss; the way they advertised it it's suppose to be super good outside, which imo is not the case connects to 2 devices or 1 basically instantly, as soon as u take it out the charge case; it's wonderful if u have phone+tablet setup, even phone+computer
if you are looking into truly wireless, this is it. u may see cheaper options but they all suck in some way. the only competitor imo is the samsung iconx; but it doesnt have bt 5 which allows multipoint connection, and from my experiece it kept disconnecting from my pixel 2
cons: connection/audio does distort when near high pitch sounds; like when im near a bus or train and it brakes, that squealing will cause minor skips the fit; forget wearing any hat that covers ur ears; it'll start hurting ur ear after a while mic is meh outdoors
The drop completes on Monday Jan 29, and the ship date is Feb 19? Can you guys explain the three-week delay? I know it can take a bit longer than usual to ship Drops, but that seems like a silly wait time for a product that's already commercially available.
BionicTulip
I was equally puzzled by this one. We will see how it pans out. Good deal either way.
Do they fit under a motorcycle helmet?
The beauty of a tethered iem, if it falls out, you are not loosing it.
Rekreated
You're worried that you won't notice if it falls out of your ear?
BionicTulip
The worrying happens, will it still work after it hits the floor or pavement should one fall out, pretty much common sense.
Anybody know if these work with Google Assistant?
Do these have a good seal for really good bass? My first pair of Wireless earphones were the Erato Muse 5. I still have them and they still ROCK!! I put a pair of Comlys on the and made all the difference. I have owned many pair (Sony,Zolo, Crazybaby etc) and Erato are the best.
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What's a Comply?
BionicTulip
Comply are foam eartips that expand in your ear for a great seal. This improves the sound, especially the bass. Go to www.complyfoam.com They don't have many tips for truely wireless buds, I just kind of figured it out.
they are great, plus its neat to walk around and talk on phone with them people think your crazy.
keeping an eye on this. i ordered from amazon, see how that goes...
mass_drop_user_42
How did it go??
Bob3600
copy/paste from another response:
bought from amazon and returned. doesnt work with comply, silicon tips have bad seal these things are huge! the charging case implementation is weird, u gotta like turn ur buds a certain angle to easily pop them in to charge sound is meh imo on phone calls, mic is near bad, sound is only right bud i did not check range stuff since i was already disappointed by other factors. testing the jabra 65t atm
def keeping the jabra, it has its minor issues here and there but overall worth the money. - pretty much resolves all the issues i mentioned above - connect 2 devices at the same time
Aptx HD?
ClaytonJ
No. No APTX.
I had the original version of the erato and thought the sq was very good. These look to be an improvement. Howvever there are now a lot of options in this space. PSB m4u tw1 at 149 is an alternative albeit another 40. Sony with anc (but now ipx) can be had at 150 as well.
Over view of the product, https://www.hachi.tech/musica/wireless-audio/earbuds/erato-verse-true-wireless-earphones-black--4897073720180
Up to 3 hours music time extended to 15 with the portable charger
Maksim
That 15 hours doesn't include how long it will take you to do a recharge(and subsequently how long you DON'T use them while charging....)making this type of IEM pretty useless on any meaningfully long trips. Not knocking these personally, just the design in general.
Anyone know much about these? Now that I've got a refund coming due to backing out of the Revols Kickstarter debacle, I am interested in the idea of cordless BT earphones.