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Albert.A
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Jan 24, 2018
That's not a weld, I don't know what everyone is talking about but this is not a weld, the knife is made out of the one metal piece . I have never ever seen any manufacturer that makes the blade out of a square metal sheet and then welds a tang, this does not make any scene, how will u sharp the knife? with what you'll hold it to work on it ?
No one would ever compromise a small piece of metal for convenience and easy work, at some point you'll have to work more time because you are missing a handle which is like 2$ of metal, this will lead to extra effort and time put in making a knife without a handle, cost efficient will be lost because you'll need to have extra tools and use specifically hard methods to forge a knife where you can't have a grip on it to work on it. https://www.messerforum.net/fotoalbum/data/838/Haiku_Kurouchi_santoko_009.JPG
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If you don't understand it,The knife is suppose to look rough, that is the theme, it is artistic at one point
watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4CRH8CO4X0 if you really want to know why it looks like a weld, that is because its one piece of metal which one part of it is hammered heavily to make an extra long piece for the handle - that's a "Tang".
1:27 is the point where the tang is being made.
Kavik
5531
Jan 25, 2018
Albert.AI'll give one last reply here, as I didn't see this post until just now. I do understand the purpose/appeal of a kurouchi finish, I've owned half a dozen or so... but what we're seeing in the product images here don't look anything as close to as nice as the one in the pic you provided. Nothing wrong with that finish at all!
I know not everyone agrees, and that's fine, but I still think there's more than just hammer marks on some of the pics I've seen. Just my opinion. And again, I'm not saying they're made by welding a tang on, the conversation got derailed into that. (And I don't mean any offense, but you're wrong about that being something that is NEVER done by anyone, you just are. It's been seen and discussed plenty, but as I said before, in stamped and material removal methods, not fully forged blades) But that's still not to say it might not be a repair. Metals warp and crack from time to time, it's a fact of smithing, the question is what the smith does with it when that happens. Some will discard the blade, some will sell them as seconds, some will just sell them as is at full retail. I know in my head that a GOOD weld on the tang of a kitchen knife is stronger than any pressure were going to put on it, and in the grand scheme means nothing.....but you won't ever see me pay full price for one, if i buy it at all.
I'm also familiar with the video you posted. I own a gyuto made by that man....he knows how to make an excellent knife at a better price point than the ones we're talking about here. I will gladly be buying more of his work in the future