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Yeah baby yeah, pico power! so excited. Now to wait 1 month though :(
hi there, I have a 2016 moto z force. no jack, only a usb c port. can I use the dac/amp or will it not work?
Got my pico today, bloody lost the nut instantly. lucky they come with a spare set haha!
ducman
send me an email with your address and i'll send out a couple
Does anyone has an insight into how these amps compare with Fiio line of amps
For example Pico power vs Fiio A5
mahee
Just looking at the THD numbers the Pico Power has roughly 40 times less distortion. Or 1/40th of the distortion present .002% for the A5 vs .00005 for the Pico Power

Less THD translates to better resolve overall or more detail, the only problem with that is in some cases added distortion can be "pleasant" as it can add body and warmth. If your happy with how your source sounds, you'll likely enjoy the Pico Power. As it will prove worthwhile if you ever upgrade to a nicer portable source.

If your not 100% satisfied with how your source sounds, you'll likely appreciate the total added improvements of the Pico Dac/Amp over just the amp

I am deciding between the pico power and the pico amp/dac. I currently have an xduoo x10 and samsung galaxy s7 exynos as a source. I was worried that the pico power would end up getting more total distortion due to it passing by either of the amp in my source. So which would have better quality to power sennheiser hd6xx?
supasb
Your xduoo x10 has a fixed line output from it's DAC section than I imagine you'll quite like the improvement you'll get from the Pico Power. I've fed the Shanling M2s [which also features a single AK 4490 dac-chip set implementation] into my own Pico Power and noticed a pretty immediate improvement. Especially with more demanding headphones like my own HE 4XX and your HD 6XX

The Amp/Dac model though will likely pair to your phone directly, if you go that route your able to use a variety of different Audio Playback suites on your android phone, like Neutron. Neutron Audio has a very nice parametric EQ and a suite of other DSP features. If your willing to take the time to fine tune the sound with the DSP options in such players than you'll likely find it just as enjoyable as what the X10 an Pico Power output.

I guess ultimately it boils down to which device you find more enjoyable to operate for listening to music? If you like your X10 more than get the Pico Power, if you enjoy using your S7 more than get the Dac/Amp Pico


Mshenay
Thanks alot for the reply. I really love the xduoo x10, got it on alliexpress after it got lost during shipment when ordering from here, unfortunately xduoo's customer service is non existent and I got stuck pixel lines all over my screen but it still works. Ended up buying the pico power.
Love this amp! I paid full PRICE for one last year and I've never regretted it. The Pico Power is really a phenomenal little device, battery life is great with the Li-ion they recommend on their web site. Compared to a lot of other portable amps at at THIS price it's hands down the BEST! Clarity is top notch, imaging is top notch, the power it'll push is again TOP Notch!

At $290 I'd grab the Pico Power and call it a day, as the only better portable amps out there are balanced, only marginally better , very difficult to find and expensive, and the only headphones that really need them are old school Planar magnetics like the HE4/5/6 or the Legacy Audezes, other wise this is imo hands the BEST portable single ended solid state amp out there for about 95% of in production headphones these days!
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Technically yes the Pico Power is better, but beyond technicalities the two amps differ in presentation and design.

If you a more technical listener who values resolve an detail over naturalness you'll like pico power. Especially if you have what you feel is your end game portable source/dac. As it simply amplifys what your Dac produces, feed it from a burr Brown chip an its very natural, with an Esabre chipset its colder an more dynamic or exciting. Sometimes too much or too little, it's really an amp for discerning listeners who have what they feel are their end game headphones or portable players. What ever strengths or flaws you find in the presentation of your headphone or DAP will be amplified with the Pico Power.

The B1S is natural regardless of the source, it presents a wider image than the Pico Power though which helps balance the added body n decay. It's also a bit more forgiving. But while it's presentation is different its technically not as resolving nor as powerful. Aune did NOT design the B1S to drive full sized less efficient and harder to drive headphones.

Where as Head Amp has designed and built this portable amp drive the more demanding loads of a Full Sized Headphone. I've successfully used it to drive both my HE 4 and AKG K240, and it does so better than the B1S does.

Now where things get interesting are how the two amps pair with what I'd consider less resolving or price conscious DACs\sources , with my HM901 set to "vintage" the Pico Power is again clearly better... always. I do consider my HM901 to be... a reference class DAP. I've gutted it's amp section to maximize on battery life and it's been impressing me for 4 years now! It'll even trade blows with the Hugo 2, but that's neither here nor there

When I step into the Shanling M3s, which is not as resolving as the HM901 then the differences in presentation matter more, with the Pico Power the M3s is very dynamic, very taut and well textured but the timbre is kinda off... with the Aune B1S there's a "magic" a warmth to the sound that really pairs nicely with THIS DAP. So on one hand I have a more technical presentation, but because the source it self clearly lacks some naturalness... which the Pico Power only magnifies I frankly can't appreciate technicalities of the sound as a whole because it's... un-natural. On the other hand with the Aune B1s imbues a lovely naturalness to the chain as a whole. So while there's less resolve, timbre is correct and the overall experince is more enjoyable. An yes I volume matched both my impression with a Galaxy Audio CM 140, which meets the IEC 651 Type 2 standards. It's not the best thing ever I'm sure, but it's more than sufficient for my use. I even have a little couple I use to help standardize position when I measure for volume

Non the less at this price the extra spent on the Pico Power and upgraded batteries are well worth it, especially IF your happy with your Source/Amp/DAP. Otherwise at its normal 500( including the li ion rechargeable batteries) price, the B1S will be the better value especially if you can use the 280 difference to upgrade your DAC or Source

Rest assured though when I post my impressions and thoughts of the B1S, I'll mention the Pico Power. I'll speak of it's better technicalities, and overall better performance, but also it's higher cost and very limited availability at the "best price," and it's ability to magnify both faults and strengths,
Mshenay
Thank you for taking your time to make the comparison, Mshenay!
JustinWilson what's the output inpendance on the DAC/Amp model?

I don't see it in the specs, while it's there for the other two.
If this was $99, I'll buy one.
So close to buying a Pico Power or a Slim! Thinking about powering some SE846's, connected to my iPod 5.5G... how can we get HeadAmp 30-pin LOD cables?

And what's the recommended charger?
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Nope, you'd need a 2nd Pico Power in the same box for it do any good.
JustinWilson
axtran you can likely find a 2.5mm TRRS to 3.5mm TRS jack, balanced vs Single End topology is a pointless debate. Balanced outputs are only better if you truly need the extra power and if said power delivered by a well thought out design. Design and implementation mean more for sound quality than just the output connector alone. With the Pico Power you'll find it's design is phenomenal. The quality of sound is impressive, the power output is more than that of a lot of the balanced out put connections you see on Digital Audio Players and/or Dac/Amp combos and it measures with less overall distortion too

For your IEMS you don't really need the added power that a good balanced design can offer, thus I'm sure JustinWilson will agree that the Pico Power will do quite well. Though JustinWilson for iems specifically, how does the Pico Slim compare to the Pico Power?
It got more expensive than last drop?
teioh33
The Pico DAC/Amp and Power are the same price, we lowered the Pico slim price
Is it worth it to get the Pico Power over the slim and DAC? I would be primarily using with my iPhone 6 Plus with HD6XX, with occasional Switch and iPad use. The slim and DAC seem convenient since they have internal batteries rather than having to use 9v, and I wonder if the DAC is worth it for when I eventually upgrade my iPhone to a headphone jack lacking model. Please let me know, thank you!
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Awesome, gonna get the power. Thanks for your help!
The Switch does output audio through USB as of system version 4. I use the Sony PlayStation Gold wireless headphones that use a USB receiver on the Switch and they work remarkably well (no microphone support though, but that's on Nintendo).

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