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Specter0890
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Jul 21, 2017
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375 for cpm 154 lolllll not in this universe
Jul 21, 2017
anonomous
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Specter0890seriously? cpm-154 is a really really good steel. you really dont know what your talking about. plus most knives that cost that much are hand made and you are paying labor costs mostly. your interpretation is wrong. you should be looking at mass production knives instead sir. This knife will retain its value or go up in value. it will never sell for less unless you use and scratch it up. and even then because of its low production numbers, it will still be of great value to some.
Jul 21, 2017
Specter0890
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Jul 21, 2017
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anonomousI own around 15 different folders with steels like s30v, super Blue, Hap40, m390, cruwear, vg10 and zdp189 but I know nothing. 154cm is the same makeup as cpm154 just a different process to make. Never should it cost this much. For 375 you should be seeing m390 or at least s35vn.
Jul 21, 2017
anonomous
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Specter0890Yea you really have no idea. This is a midtech. Those are mass production knives you have. huge difference. If your happy with mass production then cool, but don't ever assume it's not worth it because you have other knives with higher wear resistance. cpm154 is the powdered metal version of 154cm which is also an amazing steel used by nasa for its unique properties.
anyways this is above you and you won't understand what midtech even means if I explain it. not everything is based on steel type and mass production isn't always idea.
Jul 21, 2017
PirateSeulb
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Jul 21, 2017
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anonomousIs CPM-154 and anodized titanium enough of an upgrade over Aluminum & AUS-8 to justify $300 added cost? In my opinion only a fool would say yes. The mentality going into a "custom" of a production is very different than a production of a "custom". I do expect this version here to have more hand work and man hours but it is difficult to justify the cost. The maker could have helped to add justification but using a less common steel CPM-154 is a good steel but for this and where it is launching from something a bit more special would come across better.
Jul 21, 2017
Specter0890
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anonomousthis is a sorry excuse for a midtech. at least dont use the same exact design as park designed for crkt lol
Jul 21, 2017
anonomous
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Specter0890I'm about to blow your mind... RWL-34 is the same as cpm-154 just from a European steel company. if you look here at real world life testing, its on par with 20cv, m390 & 204p
http://www.bladeforums.com/threads/ranking-of-steels-in-categories-based-on-edge-retention-cutting-5-8-rope.793481/
so its not sub par at all in cutting performance. not only that buy it has higher toughness than those steels and that's even better.
Jul 21, 2017
anonomous
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PirateSeulbmidtechs and customs are not for the average person. they are very low production and very high quality. your crkt is junk in comparison.
the value of these midtech knives will stay the same of raise over time. they are great to use but are often sight out for collections.
Jul 21, 2017
Specter0890
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anonomousand we all know d2 is one of the best steels for edge retention, but it still gets put in knives like an ontario rat for 50 bucks lol thats no excuse to charge 375 bucks. at least a grimsmo knife that has rwl34 is way better machined and looking than this suped up crossbones.
Jul 21, 2017
PirateSeulb
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anonomousAnd you bring up RWL-34 because? I can't speak for Specter but I do agree that this lacks the added flair over the production to demand this price.
Jul 21, 2017
anonomous
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Specter0890the mass production and midtech versions are based off the custom knife from the maker. the mass production knife is made in low quality materials and poor quality and they pump out 1000's of them.
the midtech is very good materials and quality at an affordable cost. in low quantities.
the custom is hand made by maker. each one may be slightly different but you pay for the maker to make them by hand or CNC etc but the maker makes them from start to finish, not in a factory.
I have some customs. some are worth it and some are not. the ones that are worth it are amazing. especially because they have a heat treatment for the metal that's far better than any mass production knife.
I have more midtech because I like quality and I use my knives. I have some production knives and there are some that are exceptional like spyderco and zt's among others. but the midtechs are even better in my experience.
Jul 21, 2017
PirateSeulb
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anonomousI don't know why you believe Aluminum and AUS-8 are low quality materials is it a lesser tier than Titanium and CPM-154? Yes but I wouldn't call Aluminum or AUS-8 low quality. The F&F of the product and the HT of the steel from CRKT could be low quality but since I haven't bought a CRKT in years I don't know how their current QC and HT is.
Jul 21, 2017
anonomous
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PirateSeulbrwl34 is the same steel as cpm154 and the link I shared shows that steel is equal if not better than m390 and other super steel. which he thinks is a sub par steel cause he doesn't know the wider picture
Jul 21, 2017
anonomous
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Specter0890troll retard. that describes you.
Jul 21, 2017
PirateSeulb
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anonomousI don't see that he says m390 is subpar it looks like he says it is better, or would be a better option, he does seem to think CPM-154 is a subpar steel I wouldn't agree with that though. While we could debate steels this isn't the place really. I have voiced my objections to this price and I can only hope that is clear and that perhaps you can see my view on it.
Jul 21, 2017
rivy
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Specter0890Parks midtech and custom (aka, the knife you see here) has been around much longer than the CRKT version. CRKT licensed the design due to how awesome this midtech is. It's certainly worth the upgrade over the CRKT and is produced in much smaller numbers. anonomous is right about everything he's saying to you.
Jul 21, 2017
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