KB Flipper for KeyBar (Designed by Ferrum Forge)
viraman83
what's the handle material? on the flipper...
eksuen689
viraman
420 stainless steel
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/kb-flipper-for-keybar/talk/1912092
viraman83
eksuen
Thanks!
I would buy one and gladly pay more if it was made in the USA.
hatman260
I'll ask again -- please show a photo of the KB Flipper with the Gent for size comparison.
Thanks.
Thanks.
HollowState173
This is just an comment on "flipper" actions, and not about other aspects of this knife. For my EDC, I prefer assisted opening by thumb studs or holes in the blade (like Spyderco offerings) over flippers. I have had a moderately large collection of knives for decades. I have tried various assisted opening knives for extended periods. My comments are:
* Flippers tend to be harder to hold (in my hand) to access the flipper tab. * The natural position for holding a thumb stud knife tends to put my thumb on the stud. * The most useful of EDC knives that are actually accessed frequently is the so-called "One Handed Knife", a knife that can be also closed one handed. It seems that flippers tend to be frame locked. A liner lock, as on most thumb stud knives, is easier to "unlock" one handed. * True, both flippers and thumb studs are difficult to master when new, and thumb studs are usually more difficult. You should being breaking in the actions with breaking in and lubrication. Broken in, thumb studs are usually easier to use.
Even so, there is a case for the flippers. I have at least 4 myself. They are left in particular locations where they are available when my thumb stud may not be available...say, in the car where my wife may need a knife. My flippers are good, serviceable knives. They are cheap, small and light.
* Flippers tend to be harder to hold (in my hand) to access the flipper tab. * The natural position for holding a thumb stud knife tends to put my thumb on the stud. * The most useful of EDC knives that are actually accessed frequently is the so-called "One Handed Knife", a knife that can be also closed one handed. It seems that flippers tend to be frame locked. A liner lock, as on most thumb stud knives, is easier to "unlock" one handed. * True, both flippers and thumb studs are difficult to master when new, and thumb studs are usually more difficult. You should being breaking in the actions with breaking in and lubrication. Broken in, thumb studs are usually easier to use.
Even so, there is a case for the flippers. I have at least 4 myself. They are left in particular locations where they are available when my thumb stud may not be available...say, in the car where my wife may need a knife. My flippers are good, serviceable knives. They are cheap, small and light.
HollowState
I think it's a matter of taste as I can make all the same points the other way around.
Is this still on Track to ship on time?
Can we use only one keybar scale to reduce thickness? Also, will this cause issues with Canadian customs?
Watsyurdeal123
So does this work with a Keysmart?
da5id39
Watsyurdeal
@FerrumForgeKnifeWorks Same curiosity, I have the pro with "tile" and would love to add a flipper to consolidate.
hatman260
Please show photos of just the knife with the Gent.
Will the set of the knife and keybar hang from a carabiner with a keyring?
cpl1235
Just got mine today. The knife is beautiful and the flipping action is satisfying. I'm afraid it might be a bit too thick but we'll see as I use it for the next few days. I think it would be fine in a front pants pocket if you only had a couple of keys (which I do), but I also have a key fob and AAA flashlight attached. Doesn't quite sit at the bottom of my pocket as comfortably as I would have liked. But I'll give it a shot. Worst case I'll buy a separate KeyBar just for this+ accessories, and make a DIY utility knife.
DocZZZ172
will a keychain fit on this too?
CHICKENGOD172
How many keys would fit with the knife in the keybar? It doesnt look like it would fit much which kills it for me
sallen196
I clip it to either my belt, or tuck it into my EDC bag, or clip it to my SCOTTeVEST. I don't like to shove it into a pants pocket as it is a bit large. If I shove my KeyBar into a front pants pocket I look as if I am trying to overcompensate for the ladies.
sallen196
Ok, so my KeyBar is not quite as big as the largest Swiss Army Knife. You are correct that I carry a lot of keys. I'm usually first in the office, so I have work keys plus all of my home keys, cars, and various locks (shed, garage, patio, rear sliding door, home front door, home rear door, etc.). I am setting up another KeyBar of the keys for the RV. And another KeyBar of all of the keys that I hold for friends, such as spare car, house, garage, etc. This flipper knife will go into my largest KeyBar which is my EDC. Although I EDC a pocket knife, my EDC SCOTTeVEST has a small pocket knife in it, another knife is always handy. Never know when you might dull one knife or snap the blade in two (both have happened to me just opening boxes at work), so another handy sharp knife is a good thing.
cpl1235
Now THIS is a great idea...
Can this be added into a key bar with only the lock side? So that it’s not as large going into my keybar?
Thanks for the quick reply! My keybar is already pretty big, otherwise I’d totally be into this! Might anyway if you had a warncliff blade...
Colourspot
Wharncliff blades are available on Instagram from several dealers, I have a nice one.
Mine arrived! Of course being new to keybars I found out that more than one of my keys won't fit onto the keybar...oh well.
In the meantime I've been playing with the knife and have had some issues getting the blade to fully deploy with the flipper. Will it just take break-in time or should I make some sort of adjustment to it?
In the meantime I've been playing with the knife and have had some issues getting the blade to fully deploy with the flipper. Will it just take break-in time or should I make some sort of adjustment to it?
Nalpak_Andy
irv17211
It will break in. Try to put pressure against the flipper tab inwards against the knife and the use a slight lightswitch type movement down.
Frogface17
NalPak or creator. Can you tell me if the part where the keys attach to. Can that oart be taken off and just turn this into liner lock knife. I love the look, but im not into the key part of it. Ferrum Forge just has some great ideas and designs. Im a big fan of there work. But again i dont need a key holder. But i want this as a liner lock knife. Theres only 15 hours or so left. I hope i can get an answer before time runs out. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time. Dwayne
Nalpak_Andy
Frogface
This comes as a framelock knife that can if desired be inserted into a KeyBar. We’ve found that many are using this as a standalone knife Cheers. -Andy
Omniseed1167
Frogface
I bet you could get a scale maker to build scales for this without much trouble
Is it just me or keybars become more like a build your own multitool tahnk key holder?
Cyphre2131
megical_banana
When you think about it, it is roughly the size of an old-fashioned swiss army knife. With an open design, you can add just about anything to it.
I really hope these ones will be offered every so often since they aren't shipped to me elsewhere :(
Axeguy949
I have way more knives than keys...🤔 Dear awesome Ferrum Forge folks: I would like a KeyBar-like device to carry and neatly organize my knives, while my keys rattle around in my pocket. I am willing to enlarge and reinforce my pockets (and, heck, the pants seem to be getting bigger these days anyways...*sigh*).
Axeguy949
Nice idea. I really appreciate the execution and price, as well! Something to get for us knife guys who are so hard to buy for! Cheers! Thanks FF for stepping outside the box on this one.
Axeguy
I agree, it is actually quite an ingineering chalenge with the pivot, and it is done very nicely as far as I see it.
soultron148
This thing looks like a genius piece of design.
I have two questions: is it hard to access the frame lock when the knife is installed in a keybar?
Next, has anyone who owns one accidentally caught their finger on the knife point when the blade is in the closed position? I know this sounds like a dumb question but I wanted to ask anyway.
I have two questions: is it hard to access the frame lock when the knife is installed in a keybar?
Next, has anyone who owns one accidentally caught their finger on the knife point when the blade is in the closed position? I know this sounds like a dumb question but I wanted to ask anyway.
Nalpak_Andy
soultron
Good questions. The frame lock is very easily accessible in the KeyBar with or without keys. There are some videos on Elliot's Instagram (@ferrumforgekw) page demonstrating this. The knife tip is recessed so that there is no possible way your finger can catch on it. Cheers.
bdpf95
This makes me wish that I would carry more keys so I could justify buying a keybar and this KB flipper LOL!
Unfortunately, I only carry my car key and my home key :(
doos41
bdpf
I have the same problem. I've wanted a keybar for awhile but both my car key and home key are key fobs lol. My only key is my mailbox key which is already small. BUT...if I buy this knife it just might justify buying the keybar!
Dtfan7414
I love the knife it only adds a couple oz to the total weight plus as lpong as you have your keys you always have a knife. It flips very smoothly and it is very easy to unlock and put away with one hand..there have been other knife makers that have made blades for the keybar but never to this extent, and definitely not at this price point...the kb flipper is top notch very well thought out design.
doos41
Dtfan74
"...as long as you have your keys you always have a knife."
This is actually part of my concern considering how often I go through a metal detector. I always forget that I'm carrying a knife. I accidentally went to the airport once and ended up having to ship my knife keychain to myself for $20 lol
This is actually part of my concern considering how often I go through a metal detector. I always forget that I'm carrying a knife. I accidentally went to the airport once and ended up having to ship my knife keychain to myself for $20 lol
Dtfan7414
doos
Lol...yeah that's the only downside..not airport friendly...but I don't fly often so I can take it off before I fly..but that is definitely a hassle
TheVirus19
I love the size of the blade and wish they would make a <3" flipper knife for key chains. I only have one key, so the whole gadget is kind of useless to me.
FerrumForge_Elliot
I'm seeing some confusion about the material in this knife and questions about the price to size ratio. This knife does not have titanium scales. It has 420 stainless steel scales. We had to do this in order to give the bearings something to ride on and maintain the thinnest material dimensions so the knife doesn't make the keybar too wide. Much of the cost of this knife comes from the pivot and standoff screws I had to design specifically for this knife to make it function as flipper and fit in the keybar. They have very tight tolerancing and maintain the dimensions in the knife so the tension on the keybar screws does not affect the action of the knife . I know it looks simple, but we spent almost a year prototyping this knife and optimizing the bearing configuration to ensure it would function as a flipper, be stable, and as robust as we could make in is such a small package.
eksuen689
FerrumForgeKnifeWorks
Thanks for the info! Could you tell us the weight of the standalone knife?
FerrumForge_Elliot
eksuen
about 2.2oz
TheTaggerung103
Is there a way to just buy the Keybar standalone?
