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Kizer V4458A1 Begleiter Liner Lock

Kizer V4458A1 Begleiter Liner Lock

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If you’re not up on your German, we’ll fill you in. Named after the German word for companion, the Begleiter is a slim, durable folder with a 3.5-inch blade. Made from high-carbon-content Japanese VG-10, it offers good edge retention—and the titanium coating only accentuates it Read More

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Cracktower
102
Apr 1, 2019
This is this price on Amazon every day with free shipping. Mass Drop is dropping the ball on this one.
Spokes30
180
Apr 1, 2019
This knife can easily be found for $52 with no shipping with a 10% discount on top of that. I thin MD thinks they are the only ones with a computer, I truly do not get it. They need to get a new person in their ranks to do the negotiating with these companies. I am going to wait until the mini version comes available in M390.
b.parker1218
12
Mar 31, 2019
One of my all time favorites, a lot due to the value factor. It’s a really handsome knife. I had to resharpen mine out of box but I usually put my own profile on everything anyway. VG-10 is excellent for the price. Far far far exceeds its price point in every category. Got the black handle with satin blade finish last year for $44 on Amazon. Just makes me happy, feels and looks like it could be a $150 knife. But the market price is still what it is, $50-59 usually on Amazon and elsewhere. So why is this a “drop”? I got excited when I saw the email, figured it would be like $40. Just buy from Amazon and save the shipping cost
Cdoyle
400
Mar 31, 2019
The price here isnt great but the model is good. Packs a lot of blade in a relatively easy to carry size. Vg10 is no pm supersteel but is plenty good and on a budget blade is perfectly suitable. I own the blue handled version w the satin blade as I dont care for the coated blade versions. Vg10 is very corrosion resistant and does not need it and is not attractive Imo or a very durable coating. It was purchased elsewhere for $50 shipped but that was almost a year ago. didnt come very sharp which is not common for a Kizer but other than that a great and solid budget piece i would recommend.
ponagathos
512
Mar 31, 2019
Same price or cheaper everywhere else, plus MD charges shipping. Why buy it here exactly? Remember the old Massdrop where the whole point was to save by placing a bulk order and the price went down as more people joined the drop? I miss that. Still like some of the collaborations though.
Daisy_Cutter
1288
Sep 27, 2017
Anybody have any thoughts on VG-10 steel? I've been hearing conflicting things about it. On one hand Fallkniven seems to be using it on their flagship knives and elsewhere it generally seems to be considered a premium steel. On the other hand there seem to be a lot of others who consider VG-10 only a little better than AUS-8 and inferior to S30V.
b.parker1218
12
Mar 31, 2019
I agree completely about Boker VG-10. Not a scientific test, but I re-profiled my Urban Trapper when I got it recently and it took no time at all to get it hair shaving perfect. My Endura needs some time and effort to keep that sharp though. The Boker just feels noticeably softer. Also you got exactly what I was meaning about 154. The best will be better than vg10 (Benchmade?), but many will be inferior. Same for most steels, you just have to get a feel for which type each manufacturer excels at
Hatuletoh
850
Apr 1, 2019
b.parker1218***SDTL[superdupertoolong]; DR: It's nice to have a concurring second opinion about the conclusions I've come to running backyard tests on different blade steels. Because it's just not logistically possible to test it in a properly unbiased, scientific way, I've always had a nagging suspicion that any difference in performance between different blade steels was due to either my own biases or the myriad of fluctuating environmental variables that a proper scientific test would control for.*** You know...I appreciate you telling me about reprofiling the Boker, because I feel like I'm never quite sure if I really knoe what I think I know. Without sensitive equipment to measure characteristics of steel; and multi-step protocol, carefully followed by different people hundreds, or maybe thousands of times and which would specify blind or better yet double-blind tests, something I've thought over and concluded it would require another person dissamenbling my knives as a first step, and then a whole lot more steps following, each less workable than then last--so in other words, without an actual material science testing lab--testing blade steel in an objective, repeatable, and even minimally scientifically rigorous way is impossible. Not to mention many of the tests would damage or at least alter a blade (i.e., reprofiling being a relatively gentle way to kind of of get an idea about elasticity/toughness). I don't have anything riding on the info I glean from testing blade steel, some friends and I just do it because it's fun (honestly, it's just me as often as not, I'm definitely in deepest with the knife addiction), and in the words of the fictitious yet immortal Emil Faber: knowledge is good. But I can't help but feel at times that it's so subjective I could make the same test cuts with the same knives on the same media, and on another day get info completely different from what I did, just because of a seemingly irrelevant detail that was actually a significantly correlated variable. Maybe on one day I have a little cut on my right hand subtly impacting my grip and ability to press a cut, maybe another day we do the tests after eating at a buffet, so that my 6'11", 275 lb friend for once isn't impatiently trying to rush the task so he can have his next "snack", maybe one day it's cold and the next hot, which would affect both people and materials, etc., etc. And then of course, a knife maker might consciously decide to change the forging process as he becomes more skilled and familiar with a steel. For example, my mini Sabenza was made in November 2017 and the blade's hardness is 61RC. But the exact same mini Sabenza built in a few months earlier has an blade with 60 HRC. This wasn't something Chris Reeve announced, but some knife nuts apparently detected the change (actual scientist-knife nuts, I'd guess) and were speculating online, so Mr. Reeve admitted that whereas he had long thought S35VN would be too brittle if tempered for a pocket knife above 60HRC, he'd been experimenting and improving his forging skills since he first created S35VN, and had managed to come up with a tempering recipe which produced a sufficiently tough blade at 61 HRC. Once his shop could reliably produce it, that became the standard for his Sabenza blades, instead ofthe 60 HRC . Wow. That was long even for me and I'll put a TL; DR summary up top. This was a subject that had been kicking around in my brain not fully formed or explored, so taking the long verbal ramble helped me get a better fix on my own opinions and concerns. The summation is, I think: we're all a bunch of amateurs with our "tests", and likely as not any info we get from them is just going to be random noise. But it's a fun thing to do sometimes, so as long as we remember not to put too much stock in our amateur info, there's no harm in some totally subjective examinations, I think.
I got this knife from BladeHQ a few months back and I have to say I'm extremely impressed. Any time where I want a big blade to do some serious cutting, and I don't want to carry my BM51, I always choose this knife. Its comfortable in your hand but still thick and sturdy feeling. It feels much better than some of the other $40-50 knives out there. The OD Green is a great look on it. Pick it up, you won't be disappointed!
rdtshaw
47
Sep 23, 2017
Great knife, but normal street price? Need an exclusive color run!! Bring on some two tone G10 or stonewash blade... :)
Cdoyle
400
Mar 31, 2019
rdtshawThe blue handled version is satin or stonewashed (forget which finish) uncoated blade.
locura247
70
Sep 23, 2017
Looks cool. Simple blade.
Blacplastic
29
Sep 23, 2017
On Amazon its only $2 more...
azgli
6
Mar 31, 2019
BlacplasticThe black one is $6 cheaper on Amazon right now, with free shipping.
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***SDTL[superdupertoolong]; DR: It's nice to have a concurring second opinion about the conclusions I've come to running backyard tests on different blade steels. Because it's just not logistically possible to test it in a properly unbiased, scientific way, I've always had a nagging suspicion that any difference in performance between different blade steels was due to either my own biases or the myriad of fluctuating environmental variables that a proper scientific test would control for.*** You know...I appreciate you telling me about reprofiling the Boker, because I feel like I'm never quite sure if I really knoe what I think I know. Without sensitive equipment to measure characteristics of steel; and multi-step protocol, carefully followed by different people hundreds, or maybe thousands of times and which would specify blind or better yet double-blind tests, something I've thought over and concluded it would require another person dissamenbling my knives as a first step, and then a whole lot more steps following, each less workable than then last--so in other words, without an actual material science testing lab--testing blade steel in an objective, repeatable, and even minimally scientifically rigorous way is impossible. Not to mention many of the tests would damage or at least alter a blade (i.e., reprofiling being a relatively gentle way to kind of of get an idea about elasticity/toughness). I don't have anything riding on the info I glean from testing blade steel, some friends and I just do it because it's fun (honestly, it's just me as often as not, I'm definitely in deepest with the knife addiction), and in the words of the fictitious yet immortal Emil Faber: knowledge is good. But I can't help but feel at times that it's so subjective I could make the same test cuts with the same knives on the same media, and on another day get info completely different from what I did, just because of a seemingly irrelevant detail that was actually a significantly correlated variable. Maybe on one day I have a little cut on my right hand subtly impacting my grip and ability to press a cut, maybe another day we do the tests after eating at a buffet, so that my 6'11", 275 lb friend for once isn't impatiently trying to rush the task so he can have his next "snack", maybe one day it's cold and the next hot, which would affect both people and materials, etc., etc. And then of course, a knife maker might consciously decide to change the forging process as he becomes more skilled and familiar with a steel. For example, my mini Sabenza was made in November 2017 and the blade's hardness is 61RC. But the exact same mini Sabenza built in a few months earlier has an blade with 60 HRC. This wasn't something Chris Reeve announced, but some knife nuts apparently detected the change (actual scientist-knife nuts, I'd guess) and were speculating online, so Mr. Reeve admitted that whereas he had long thought S35VN would be too brittle if tempered for a pocket knife above 60HRC, he'd been experimenting and improving his forging skills since he first created S35VN, and had managed to come up with a tempering recipe which produced a sufficiently tough blade at 61 HRC. Once his shop could reliably produce it, that became the standard for his Sabenza blades, instead ofthe 60 HRC . Wow. That was long even for me and I'll put a TL; DR summary up top. This was a subject that had been kicking around in my brain not fully formed or explored, so taking the long verbal ramble helped me get a better fix on my own opinions and concerns. The summation is, I think: we're all a bunch of amateurs with our "tests", and likely as not any info we get from them is just going to be random noise. But it's a fun thing to do sometimes, so as long as we remember not to put too much stock in our amateur info, there's no harm in some totally subjective examinations, I think.
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