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KZ ZS10 IEM

KZ ZS10 IEM

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I had the problem that with factory ear tips they would not stick to my ears at all. Took the biggest tips from another product I had at hand and suddenly I was pleased with the sound and fit. I don't rate that as a negative, because the human ear is so individual designed, it is actually like a fingerprint. I was not lucky that they fitted out of the box.. Now after more listening: Still there is something about what I find the highest mid and high range especially on vocal and classical tunes. Or the song Birds of Chicago "Till its Gone" I like to refer to here. Allison Russell has a warm voice I think which is not represented the best way and even the Clarinet she plays comes along with that high pitch at times in this tune and then the last seconds of the song is applause clapp from several hands, hmmmm....? BUT THEN I WAS LISTENING TO THIS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN3g8tEJZJs&index=5&list=RDD-h6MoF7HLA
after actually listen to "UNCOMPRESSED" (192bit) music I am pretty impressed with the KZ SZ10, They turned from lustless/ lifeless into extraordinary audiophile!!! What a difference!!! The Birds of Chicago song was a simple mp3 file down boiled to 128bits which is obviously a very limited audio experience.
Hmmm, found these on gearbest for 33€ (with mic + shipping). I'm looking for something with a bit more "umpf" (bass) at the same price point. Any suggestions?
$20 on amazon...
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Oops you guys are right, I saw the cheaper model that looks the same.
I’ve read that the ZSTs are best for drummers. Are these comparable?
These, the Tin Audio T2s, or something else? Trying to get some better IEMs compared to my HIFIMAN Bolts.
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Could you drop the link?
LecheIsBad
They were on sale on AliExpress, but not anymore. I'd just keep an eye on the listings; I'm not sure when it would go on sale again. Massdrop has done drops on them as well.
While I had high expectations from the ZS10, I found out that they are not nearly as good as I wished them to be. They're technically capable, but their tuning results in a mess - they sound just wrong. You can read my full review here: https://www.soundphilereview.com/reviews/kz-zs10-review-2203/
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Likewise!
Slater91
Disagree.
Just pre order the KZ AS10 (5 BA per side) for $48 from AliExpress (use coupon code: Facebook)
I got a pair of these and really wanted to like them. Cheap, multi driver with hybrid architecture. But on first listen they sounded faded, tinny, underwhelming. I tried every eartip in the shipped package and none of them fit or sealed right. But... when I applied a little finger pressure on them into the ear, suddenly the soundscape changed completely. There was bass, there was presence, they actually sounded decent. I went online and ordered a set of eartips from Amazon. It was a pretty wide range of lengths, thickness and materials but cost around $12 (I think). After finding a good fit, I am happy to say these little headphones sound pretty good. This only leads me to believe that many in-ear units could probably sound much better with the right eartip fitting. Overall, I guess I'm pretty happy with mine after getting the fit dialed in. They don't distort, have a good tonal range and are pretty comfortable to wear. If anyone gets these and aren't happy, I recommend investing in a good set of eartips before returning them outright. You might be surprised.
Kallidean
Yes, the sound very thin and cold with the factory silicone tips. New Bee foam tips maximize the bass and bring them closer to neutral. About $7 at Amazon.
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RIYO Replacement Eartips Earbuds Tips Memory Foam Earbuds for 5mm-7mm Earphone Nozzles Black S/M/L -12pcs
For $1.60 more I can get these a from Amazon with two day prime delivery. Whoever negotiated this deal got played like a garage sale violin. When proposing a discount to a manufacturer because of the "mass" sales that will result, I would expect a price that not even Amazon can touch. The HD6XX kind of deal is what I'm talking about....this one is just a joke in comparison.
When did The Phonograph become a respected industry reference website? Every time that I've perused the website I'm always left with the impression that it's run by a kid in high school who saves up his weekly allowance to splurge on cheap Chi Fi earphones and the corporate offices are located in his bedroom (in his parents house). Apologies to the website operator if he's actually a 40 year old dude (who still lives wth his parents, of course)... but I just have great difficulty taking the website seriously.
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GuyInPittsburgh
Yeah you're right about the phonograph reference
GuyInPittsburgh
Exactly, I have no idea why these are on Massdrop at this price...
Is this better than the Final Audio E2000?
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Sorry for the slow reply. I did heard the T2, and I can't really say it beats the E2k and Tenores frankly. I notice that both E2000 and Tenores are actually smoother, and perhaps distorts less in the treble region whilst the T2 can sound a bit harsh and brittle when it comes to higher pitched sound. The Tenores would probably be the one with the perceivably most bass, and it's actually quite in line with the tuning as well, since it aims for a very fun, yet somewhat decently well managed V-shaped soundsig.
The E2k tends to be V as well, as compared to the warm and thick E3000. It has less impact on the subbass region but the midbass actually lends it a very nice, very Final Audio-like house sound. It works the best with vocal tracks and those that are not really requiring the drivers to produce fast transients like rap songs or electronics.
The T2 I would say is quite the balanced compromise between both, even factoring in the slightly brittle treble regions. Its bass actually extends low enough to give the fun in electronic music. It's not gonna rattle your head any time soon, but it does subs pretty well. The midbass is not as pronounced as the E2k and can play quite well with quite a lot of genres. The mids are not the most lively vs the E2000 but it is quite a bit better than the Tenores on account fo the less heavy bass.
As for the FH1, I did tried it a while back but unfortunately, I can't really remember what it sounds like and I'd rather not comment on it lest I give the wrong directions as it may affect the subjective impression as well. Sorry about that.
Hope this helps though
malvinvnv
Thanks
These are one of the worst earphones I've ever heard and, despite being the most expensive KZ to date, it's the only one I find unlistenable. If you look at any frequency response graph, you'll see a huge spike in the 2-4 kHz range of 10-15 dB. Many KZ hybrids have a similar spike but this one is the worst by far. It translates into painfully harsh upper mids for many people. I literally can't listen to instruments like violin and trumpet on these without turning the volume way down because it hurts. For what it's worth, their bass is nice but not really better than the bass on other recent KZ hybrids.
Honestly, for a fraction of the price the KZ ED-16, ES-4, ZSA, and ZSR are all superior options. I've never personally known someone who thought the ZS-10 sounds better than any of the above but I know many who think the reverse. The ED-16 in particular sounds quite neutral and can compete with much more expensive IEMs, while the ES-4 is the better choice if you like a V-shaped response.
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If you don't mention swapping tips how am I supposed to know that? I have no way of knowing what you do or do not have at your disposal. Something I can know is that based on even cursory glances at forums/reviews the main issues MOST people have with these IEMS can be resolved by switching to a pair of tips that actually compliment the sound as opposed to aggravating it. As far as my comment on the tips being garbage perhaps that was too general of a statement & I was a bit harsh. They are garbage for THESE particular iems & for people who don't have the ability to engage in intercourse via the ear canal. 😁 Jokes aside I'm certain that you can get better offerings at this price point & even lower, but it's probably not coming from within KZ's own line up. Then again sound is fairly subjective so no point in arguing over it, if you felt that the other KZ models are superior that's cool.
LucklessGambler
I don't think it's necessary to mention tip swapping when discussing the fact that these IEMs have an unusually nasty spike in the upper-mids. My point was that basically everything in the KZ lineup is superior to these, while also being at a significantly lower price point.
At a price point similar to these, one can also buy the TinAudio T2, which many regard as the best Chi-Fi IEM on the market and can absolutely compete with major brand IEMs at several times the price.
these sound amazing with an eq.....awsome buds for the price deep soul tingling bass clear highs and they dont get muddied on fast tracks with alot going on. also the 3d sound on these is great on movies, you can tell exactly the direction sounds come from. also found them to be very comfortable. Good buy.
How well does the active nice cancellation work?
intk
there's no battery, can't be "active" ... false advertisement ....
I’m not an expert,so this is my simple opinion.1st the cons:the shell is big and difficult to keep steady.without a proper fit the sound is too flat.needs time to break in.Now pros: with the right fit I’m my case spinfit 240m the sound is impressive,bass is fast and articulated, mids right in the money and treble (cymbals sounds like cymbals not like a simple piece of metal)are right in the spot.soundstage is not the widest but what I like is the way it lets you know the position of every musician not to mention the way it manages the micro-macro dynamics of the songs.theses are great for jazz,Latin even to pop music (vocals not over shadows the instruments due to poor mixing)also easy to eq just in case
I reviewed the ZS10 recently, they are pretty good for the money, but don't beat my ZS5 V1.
http://www.soundperfectionreviews.com/2018/05/review-kz-zs10-5-driver-hybrid-on-budget.html

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Ostewart
I prefer the ZS5, too.
Ostewart
I also have the ZS5 V1 (single BA at the nozzles). Thanks for your review, I'll pass this one :)
A cursory google search shows these same phones at a decent amount cheaper
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DW sale ended lol
Literally just google the name of these headphones and you will find almost everyone sells em for less
this price is not attractive. got it from the Chinese shopping web for just about $30, with the silver plated cable as gift
flipleung
Yeah and it's literally $3 more on amazon if you want big store protections.
flipleung
Where?
Anyone know the size of the dynamic driver?
Boost
10mm
I used to own these (and have since sold them), but whether or not you like its V-shaped sound, the Massdrop price isn't too great. Originally purchased mine for $31.
The mids are recessed quite a bit on these. If they weren't, they would have been fantastic. I had high hopes but the extreme V shape kills them. Great for movies and video games though.
$41.79 on Gearbest.com
"It does not matter what someone else's subjective opinion is. I can make myself believe anything I like, with very little effort."
Ordio P. Hile: "The Art of Audio Reviewing".
I prefer the KZ ZSR over the ZS6 and the ZS10..
ZSR is more dynamic and more fun to listen to. ZS6 and ZS10 are much flatter sound.
ZSR has a really nice punchy bass.
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Mr.Belding
I also prefer the ZSR because of better mids. Overall, the ZS10 is technically better but I can live without it.
That's my opinion of the ZS10 too. They perk up with a little amping. Straight off a handphone jack, it can sound kind of bland.
I too have the ZS5, ZS6 and the ED16 as well.
While the ZS5 and ZS6 sound more 'energetic' , but the sibilance on the ZS6 especially is really an irritation. Comparatively, the ZS10 is a detailed yet laid back signature. Somewhat reminds of the tuning of some CIEMs. But it falls short of those of course. Its just the direction which they are tuned towards in my opinion.
I just re-read massdrop's intro to the ZS10 and would be tempted to buy them. The problem: I have them already and don't think they are that great. Relying alone on the phonograph and KZ's reputation is deceptive. I recommend checking out more informed opinions.
The other thing is that I paid $9 less than advertised here and the item arrived 15 days later from China.
Schorschi
Can you tell me where
How good are those compare with Massdrop x NuForce EDC In-Ear Monitors ?
These are magic
I have these and Monoprice's Xxx (triple drivers). ZS10 is fairly neutral, you get bass if you stuff the buds really in, but leaving it slightly looser you get a very airy sound. Can't comment on fidelity since I'm on Spotify, but on a really "messy" piece of music everything can be heard much clearer, vs my Xxx and my regular headphones. I used the same silicone tips on both sets. It's impressive if you come from single-drivers with more complex music. Have to say though it's cheaper on gearbest or taobao int'l.
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The bass is 'elevated' but it's actually just one note and doesn't really sound "LOW."
[But, I don't dislike mine.]
G3n3r1c
Emphasized...I mean.
I'm looking into these mainly for the active noise cancellation and since I don't have anything as nice, I'm more into vocals than bass. I'm looking to cheap out if I can but still get some decent quality would these be good or any other recommendations would be welcome.
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You seem to be right from what I can find all the noise ISOLATION comes from the little rubber things, looks like I'll have to cancel my order.
Klip
I'm actually very glad to hear that. I haven't encountered active noise cancelling yet that doesn't make me nauseous.
I prefer the sound signature of the ZS6, the ZS10 is more focus on the lower end, bass and sub bass is fantastic but lacks in the upper range. Also the build is much better with ZS6. If you are looking to get your first KZ then either one is fine, but if you own the ZS6 already then I would not recommend unless you are KZ collector.
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Easy enough, thanks.
fallenmig
The ZS6 are sibilant. I have them too.
Can anyone compare these to 1more’s triple driver? I’d like to try a multi driver budget model.
DJ1075
I have both. The 1M-T has a much richer sound, especially on the high end. But it costs a lot more. The annoying thing about the 1M-T is the fit - no matter what tip, I have to keep readjusting them. No problem with the over-ear KZ's. The ZS10 may be their 'top of the line', but I prefer their ZS5 and ES4, both of which have better highs.
rgurdal
In air tips work well with 1more triples
More reviews: https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/kz-zs10.23034/
I would not take the phonograph seriously. It is KZ praising between ads and photos. The phonograph does not describe soundstage, layering , separation...or the overall image and signature of an earphone. They report fragmental info such as bass, mids, treble...but not how it all works together. When you look at consumers' comments, they are rather lukewarm about the ZS10.