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Massdrop CTH + SDAC DAC/Amp

Massdrop CTH + SDAC DAC/Amp

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Hi Everyone, The Massdrop CTH + SDAC DAC/Amps are on their way to our warehouse in New Jersey! Once they arrive they will go through receiving and quality control checks. We are on track to meet our estimated ship date of February 27. We are looking forward to everyone receiving the first production of the Massdrop CTH + SDAC DAC/Amp!
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how does it pair with the hd 6XX any noticeable sound improvements? Is it $300 improvement or just slightly better?
BaconToast
Better...versus what?
This compared to, say, the included dongle with my Pixel 2 is a massive difference. It's a lot better than my iPad's headphone jack too. Versus my old DragonFly Red? This is clearly better, but it's up to you to say if it's worth the price. My opinion is that the synergy between the HD6XX and this piece of kit is excellent and sounds great, but I you kinda have to give me a reference point to start with.
So...short answer is...yes, it's worth it?
I am currently using HD6XX with FiiO Q1 mark2. How much improvement can I expect with this DAC/AMP?
Very weak, low-end amp. Based on specs it should at least be clean and low-distortion. Resolution should be okay, but it'll be limited in terms of dynamics. You'll need to find a linear PSU to get the most out of it.
What are the differences between this and the liquid carbon (besides the tube)? Also, which one should I go with, or should I get something else altogether?
I think i am asking too much, but if this amp is strong enough to power my argon modded t50rps(which i have already confirmed as true) and belt out some buttery mids on my 58X like a typical OTL tube amp does on 6XX series headphones i would jump all over this for an easy 2 in 1 and reduce some desk clutter. If someone can answer the latter i would be forever grateful. Currently using magni 3 + PC sound card.
jm090
You might be better of doing a Google search on that combination if you havent already. Would suck to miss the drop and wait another few months to get one.
Does anyone know how ZMF Eikon's would pair with this? Initially using single-ended but I plan on getting a balanced cable at some point.
I current use an Audio-GD NFB11.28 but wanting something I can use with tubes + balanced.
Llex
I personally dont see a reason to get this if you already have an audio-gd. You should get a full OTL with Eikons.
Getting strange static out of the right channel that doesn't seem to go away until I have the volume at a certain level or when my music drowns it out.
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Mine went away, I burned it in overnight with no headphones plugged in. I just played music at close to max volume and the static went away and hasn't come back so far.
frostfiree
I'll try that tonight, thanks!
Does anyone know what are the tube replacement or upgrades for 6922EH?
LuciferSama
I switched my 6922 to an Amperex gold pin 7308. Has a richer and warmer sound compared to the 6922 that came with the unit.
Hello - I see a lot of references to how well this unit pairs with the senn 6xx. Any experiences with how it may pair with the 58x Jubilee? Thank you
Just got mine today!!!!! Right outta the box worked awesome!!! Cant wait for the tube to get warmed up and the sound to get even sweeter!! Will update down the road to let you all know.
WAVZ
It is sounding better and better as the tube is getting used more and more. loving this combo more then I thought I would.
Just took delivery on one of these and I have a question regarding using it with powered speakers. I have the powered speakers plugged into the 3.5mm jack on the back. Is there a way to set it so that when headphones are plugged in sound comes through the headphones and when they're not plugged in it comes through the speakers, similar to how my Fulla and Magni work?
Does anyone USB connect this to Nintendo Switch in dock mode? I'm looking for something that can work with both my pc and the Switch.
I have the usb from laptop to the micro usb in the back of this amp and the power cord is plugged in. The amp turns on, the light turns white, and my input is extended signaling that it is using the internal SDAC. For some reason I cannot hear anything from the front XLR or 1/4" headphone jacks. The rear 1/8" works however I feel like this is bypassing the amp or something as the volume knob on the front will not affect the sound and is only affected by the volume on laptop. Using that 1/8" port, I can even hear music when turning the amp off so I know it's basically listening through my computer. Any suggestions? What am I doing wrong and how do I get the amp/sdac to work properly?
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AnyColourYouLike
I am having the same issue. It is as if you have written your post after trying to use my amp. Someone, please help us! Mark
Bigmak72
I'm also having the same issue, if anyone has any input that would be great!
Not relevant to the DAC/Amp, but does anyone know what cable is on the 6xx in presented images?
tksk1
That'd be the Venture Electronic Cable, Exclusive Massdrop blue color. https://www.massdrop.com/buy/venture-electronics-headphone-cables
I've got balanced versions for the Sennheiser and HiFiMan. They're rather nice cables, and reasonably priced. They drop every few months, or you can go to Venture's site and custom order direct.
Fayne
Thanks man
Can anyone help me understand how it works? Thank you so much.
My unit haven't arrived yet but I'm guessing that I should connect my PC to the DAC input, which is a micro-usb port, and then connect the DAC 3.5mm output to the RCA Amp input, and then connect my headphone to the 4-pin XLR or 1/4 in TRS Amp output.
I'm really new into this area, please let me know if my guess is right, or it works other ways, so that I can go by some adapters if it's needed.
Thank you so much
LuciferSama
Just connect the amp rear micro usb port to your pc then plug your headphones into the front audio jack.
bruc3
Oh that's way easier than I thought Thanks haha
Is the output from the DAC a line output or preamp controlled by the volume knob? Also, is it simultaneous or triggered by pressing the power button and turning off the amp stage?
Please ignore my previous question. Now I see the input selector button on the front.
If both the USB and analog inputs are hooked up, how does the unit select which one to use?
Hello, if anyone would like to help and alex cavalli.
The specification for the amp is that this unit pulls a maximum of 35 watts and only 9 watts when idle.
My question is, when using a watt meter, what wattage does this amp pull from the wall? And when does this amp go into idle mode and what wattage reading do you guys get when in idle mode?
Audio semi-noob here. How does this compare with the Massdrop x Alex Cavalli Tube Hybrid Amp (CTH) and the Aune X1S Anniversary Edition DAC/Amp & X7S Amp in terms of bang for the buck?
peppershaker
The CTH is the same amp, this unit here just has added DAC i.e. the sdac.
Also the Aune x1s is solid state amp and this is hybrid amp.
Most of choices come down to preference but if you have a hd6xx then the CTH is suppose to sound really good with it.
Does anyone know why shipping to Slovenia would cost $82 for this item? As far as I could tell, this is by far the highest shipping amount of all countries listed, and 4-6x higher than any of the neighboring EU countries (or any listed European country for that matter).
Magicride
Import costs
AlexFisher
Hm... I would be very surprised if e.g. import tariffs or VAT were included. It does not make much sense - the shipping costs to neighboring Austria and Italy are between 12 and 19 USD, and they are both in the EU customs union and Euro area just like Slovenia, with exactly the same import duties for US electronics (10%, I believe).
Is there a solution to use with iPhone? I am looking for something bedside. I am super tempted to jump on this based on the reviews when combo'd with the Senn HD 6XX. BUT I want to use my iPhone as the source.
spinguy
You’d need to use the Apple Camera Kit in order to connect the iPhone via USB. Another option would be to connect a Bluetooth receiver to the RCA jacks on the unit in which case you might save a few bucks by getting the CTH without the SDAC.
Is it possible to use the amp alone without the dac?
tsuid1
Yes. It has RCA inputs
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In order for the amp to work do I have to plug in to the 1/4 port in the front Or should the 1/8 work by the micro USB por? the volume for amp will not work while plugged in the 1/8 port by the usb input.
Chains95
The 1/8 inch port by the usb input is a direct output from the DAC that should be connected to an external amp, and not to headphones.
You should wait for your 1/4 to 1/8 inch adapter.
Right now I am using the headphone Jack by the micro usb on the back. Do I need to have my headphones plugged in the 1/4 in or the 4 point XLR in order to use the volume and the amp, plus have input button extended? I am waiting for my 1/4 adapter.
Hey guys, I currently have the HD 6XX and paired it with a JDS Labs The Element Amp/DAC and was wondering if this would be a better alternative?
Mostly for listening to music and gaming.
KimeloAnthony
Not sure it would be better but it maybe different because of the tube. The Element is a solid piece of kit and IMO a great solid state DAC/Amp. If your looking to add tubes to your Amp collection I would take a look at the DarkVoice 336SE, one of the Little Dot options, a Bottlehead Crack or something from Woo Audio like a WA3.
Can i use these to connect with both my speakers (bose companion 2s) and 6xx?
Need a dac/amp system that I can run both of those through!
Any help with be awesome!
Shabbir_KAN
This should work for you. You’ll need a 3.5mm to 3.5mm Aux cable to connect the line out from the SDAC to your Bose speakers.
Will this work well with the Massdrop x Sennheiser HD 58X Jubilee? Im looking for some affordable audiophile headphones so i can get into the audiophile community.
Scopez
While I haven't received mine yet, I would say most definitely. People have reviewed it with the 6XX which is similar sounding, only less sensitive, and it's been positive. Also positive with lower impedance headphones so it should work great. Thing is, you could definitely get by cheaper (o2/sdac for example), but you surely wouldn't be disappointed by the combo at all. I'll be using mine with my TH-X00 and HD 58X.
Scopez
I would recommend waiting to purchase an amp until after you try out the 58X. I'm listening to the 58X out of a phone and it sounds good. I ran them out of my PC and they sounded good there too.
How does the dac included in this compare to the Massdrop x Airist Audio R-2R DAC ?
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I'm not sure if there's a comparison out there yet between Grace SDAC and Airist, but the SDAC is considered very good for its price.
You can also plug external DAC to this and use it as an amp-only, so the option is available if you decide to buy one at a later date.