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Massdrop x Focal Elex Headphones

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Stickied
Hi everyone,
With the positive community response around the Elex, we’ve been able to work with Focal to add more units to the end of the initial production. We will likely be able to open up a couple of limited quantity drops over the next few months.
The first of these runs will launch tomorrow (Mar. 6), with 125 units. The estimated ship date for this production run is May 7.
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AveryC
Hello, i am new to the Massdrop audiophile community and would like to know if a new Focal Elex drop could be available soon. Regards ! Denis
DenisF
Just click request and wait,it'll likely be restarted soon
Stickied
This update is for members who joined the drop in March:
Updated 5/7: As of this morning 90% of the headphones have shipped, and we expect all units to ship by the end of today. We have an update on the status of your Massdrop x Focal Elex Headphones. The headphones are currently in transit to our warehouse from France, and once they arrive they will go through the receiving and quality control check process. We wanted to give everyone a heads up that the timeline will be tight, and we’ll be cutting it close for all units to ship on May 7. We’re still aiming to start shipping the headphones on May 7, and we’re working with the warehouse to prioritize this. However, we expect the shipment to span over a few days. We apologize for this slight delay, and we’ll provide an update next week with the current shipping status.
AveryC
That sucks. Hoping you guys sort it out and dispatch it as previously expected.
I'm having issues with this headphone. I returned the first pair for a replacement because they were making a mechanical noise while playing bass notes at only a moderate volume level. The second pair are doing the same thing, only at a very slightly higher volume level, both sides! This makes me think the issue is maybe the design, or some poor quality control (or me? Nah, can't be!). I have not had problems with my other headphones or earphones, of which I have many, and I don't think it's a problem with my gear - I am powering these with a Schiit Lyr 2 (low gain setting).
I can reproduce the problem easily if I play the song "Unraveled" by Lorn. At about the 15-23 second mark, the song has some low bass resonance, and these cans make a sound like metal is hitting metal. I saw only one other person complain about this 'clicking'. Is anyone else having similar problems? I will probably try one more time to get a replacement, because I don't really want to get a refund.
EDIT: I must have missed the previous post by nTrophy. Apparently, the 'issue' is the headphones working as intended. I've got a decision to make, if listening to these cans as low volume levels so as to not reproduce the clicking sounds is acceptable. I'll have to listen to them some more and play with the volume levels and see if I'm happy with them. I may be too much of a casual, I don't listen to live jazz recordings, trying to visualize each instrument stroke with my ears while smoking a cigar. Sometimes I want to crank up my emu teaks (which don't 'click') to some heavy edm, or watch a movie with explosions. Ugh, I am not pleased.
steedamike
We seem to listen to a similar kind of music. And we're having similar problems. Ironic as it is, these cans are AMAZING for the kind of music we listen to (hell, I'm listening to "Lorn - Unraveled" as I type this) but they can't handle it
Just received mine and was immediately blown away by their sound. Very, very fun headphone to listen to. Airy, punchy, with an insane amount of energy. But then I heard the bass crackle. And then I found this - https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/8ij0a5/focal_noir_the_elex/ (skip to GLARING ISSUE) And now I'm not sure what to do. I absolutely adore the sound Elex produces, but I wanna be able to crank up the volume from time to time if I want to without hearing pops and crackles. It's a $700 headphone for f's sake!
Bummed out.
nTrophy
re: glaring issue - I'm not going crazy after all. Thanks for posting.
Has anyone heard the edition x (v2) and this Elex? Interested in getting something a little more dynamic as a compliment, but nothing too peaky in the highs.
These don’t sound like 650s at all despite the measurements FYI. Very very different sound.
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Thanks for the detailed evaluation Jay, it certainly helps me in my decision. I am looking for a set of cans with excellent bass response without loosening the rest of the sound signature.
I am by no means an audiophile but I certainly am an enthusiast. I purchased a Chord Mojo recently and it sold me on the value of a better dac and amp so I am ordering a Schiit jotunheim with the end game being a hugo2 or hugo th 2 once I get more cans.
Looking at the Focal Elex, Either 2, either flow c and the audeze LCD-3/x/2c. I was originally looking at HD800s but from what I read I'm expecting the bass to be to thin for my personal liking.
Unfortunately I live in a area where there absolutely no places to audition any of the about headsets so it's all reviews for me to choose but everyone has such variety in opinions...
Cdn_Adrian
If possible, I would check directly with your headphone vendor. Some of them offer very nice at-home trial periods (usually 14-30 days). I know some online vendors have 30-90 day "trial" periods and are more lax with returns as long as the headphones are kept in new condition.
And yes, the HD 800 is quite bass shy. What's there is of very good quality but the lack of quantity is laughable. I haven't heard the Ether series but from what I've gathered they are very similar to the Aeon which would leave me to believe they are a bit on the thin but highly detailed side of things (Ether's are not known for their low end presence and heft). The LCD2 classic and/or closed are on my listening shortlist but I have heard many good things about them. Thay are known for that planar bass with good impact and rumble but Audeze tend to be on the darker side of things with smooth treble. Really, if you want the speed, clarity, and dynamics of the Elex, then you'll have to stay with the Focal line. This is pretty much their house sound.
NO NOT FEDEX SMARTPOST
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You should head over to the Mech Keys section and pick something up, your caps lock seems to be broken.
Keth
What I need is faster delivery of my new sound reproduction device to help take my mind off macroeconomic forces beyond my control and threatening to make me lose my livelihood. LIKE YESTERDAY
Hi Massdrop, It's quite difficult to understand why an headphone made in France can't be shipped to France.
JMars
HAHAHA it's kinda funny, but the way you phrase it XD Probably due to trade agreements, not really sure how it works but yeah
These are such a good deal, I’m surprised they aren’t selling faster.
DenonFanboy
Because they don't ship worldwide, Massdrop / Focal shooting themselves in the foot yet again.
CamperIV
There's also agreements with the manufacturer, shipping costs, VAT (for GB and Euro countries), import and customs fees to take into account. My understanding is that you'd be looking at around $185 in import fees to get these shipped to Europe, perhaps more with the retaliatory tariffs.
Unfortunately this drop say "Sorry, this drop cannot be shipped to GB.
I don't understand the fact that those headphones are manufactured in France, but don't ship to Spain. I'd love to get one of this.
These vs fostex th-x00?
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ZachL
Depends on your tastes. I own both the Fostex and the Elex. If you like the “subwoofers strapped to your ears“ sound then the Fostex is for you. If you like accurate sound with great dynamics and impact then the Focals are for you. Having both is not a bad thing either, as they have contrasting sounds.
ZachL
I agree with @Viper2005 . I have Fostex Ebonies and while they have their place, they are no Elex. No competition really. And while the Fostex do have more bass quantity, the Elex easily outshines them for bass quality, texture, and extension. They're both fun, but the Elex is fun AND highly dynamic while still being very resolving. Unless you're moving up in price bracket, you'll have a hard time beating the Elex at this price point.
make the shipping to all country !:(
GreatMagician
I think I have read elsewhere that where they can ship these to is limited by agreements that Focal has with regional distributors... so the pressure should go to Focal, and not Massdrop - if what I read was accurate.
replacement pads here(currently inactive): https://www.massdrop.com/buy/focal-pads-for-elex-headphones
Get these or just get the clears for 400 more?
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I have a Hegel H160. I'm not sure how good the built in headphone amp is. I've always had nice speakers not headphones
The sound stage isn't huge by any means. Focal isn't known for that. However, the field is very holographic and very dynamic. While I would classify the Elex as standard, the amount of information and accuracy within that field is truly 2nd to none at this price point. The difference between the Elex and Clear is quite small. Honestly, a much smaller margin than say the HD 600 and HD 650. The Clear is superior over the Elex but not at it's stock price of almost double. Even with the Clear finally coming down in price, I'd still say the Elex is the best bet while its in stock. When the Elex is no more, the Clear is available. Truthfully, if the Clear nears $1k, with its accessories and case, I would then say it's a no-brainer over the Elex. Otherwise, pocket that difference and put it towards a better amp or DAC.
This vs. Focal Clear vs Senn HD800s?
Erak606
Should be close enough to clear (clear is slightly more resolving), and has punchier sound with deeper, tighter bass than HD800S (smaller soundstage though)
I dont have a lot of budget for headphones and I've been holding out for a sale on the Hifiman Sundara - currently $500 HOWEVER - I have always been curious about Focal cans. Many great reviews but I never even considered being able to lay out that much precious cash. But $700??? Crap, More than I should spend - NO REALLY I have no business thinking I should need such good gear. $500.00 was more than i wanted to pretend I needed - BUY???
Are these that much better than Sundara??? Or the usual Sennheiser offerings - I have Senn 58X now as my current best headphones. Had and loved the Hifiman 400i but plastic yoke broke after a couple weeks making me return and decide to save for the Sundara - should be better right and metal yokes .
Again - crap!
Scam5
Personally, I have the HE400i, the HD58X and others, but I feel where you're coming from. To me these are another level in performance, whereas the Sundara is kinda like halfway better than the HE400i; that said, I don't find myself saving up for it- it's another level on price as well XD
Scam5
Elex will be easier to drive, the Sundara returns a bit to the older style of "hard to drive" hifiman planars.
Any chance of opening these up for shipping to Singapore in the near future? Badly want a pair but its a shame it does not at the moment
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Alright, thanks mate!
Theos
I have a mostly unused pair that I can ship to you if you are interested in getting a like-new pair from a fellow SG guy.
LOL! The guy in the Focal booth at Rocky Mountain Audio Fest was poo-pooing these like crazy!
"No, No. Those are not even as good as the Elear, let alone a Clear. The MassDrop headphones are 'built to a price point' .
"But we do have 20% off show special on both the Elear and the Clear."
Ivan3
HAHAHA this is really entertaining XD
It figures these would drop again now after I just got Elears 4 days ago. lol Oh well at least I got a great deal on them.
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venus audio on ebay is a good resource if you are in the states... no frills quality cables in the $50 to $70 range depending on length. I've seen some community testing on the elear with stock pads vs elear with elex pads (and vice versa) . They are pretty much spot on when you swap pads, can't find the link at the moment however.
ElectronicVices
Thanks guys!
I dislike Focal and their marketing approach. Would never purchase any of their products again regardless. BTW you can purchase Focal Clear model from many retailers now at $1100 U S instead of $1499.99 Why are they slashing prices on a brand new product on market less than 9 Months??
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I’m regretting getting into this Focal arena. Sorry I purchased the clears Last February at full price. Thought they were a premium company but just a me too And whore marketing approach they execute. For years I’ve been more than content and satisfied for my needs and amp using my Sennheiser HD650 and 800. I knew they were always available at reputable dealers and prices discounted but Stable!!
Wolfeman
I can see you've not been around this headphone game long... the clears are finding their true market price... aka what people are willing to pay for them, not just what Focal asks for them. After 6 months audio gear in general declines in price after holding steady at MSRP for a few months (assuming it wasn't a total flop at MSRP).
How does the Elex compare to the Elear?
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Oh, what makes the elex pads better than the elears, and why is that better than the stock elex?
JustFluxz
The official Focal Elex earpads (occasionally offered for sale on Massdrop) are identical to the stock Elex pads. My understanding is that they are similar - if not identical - to the Focal Clear pads: perforated micro-suede. The Elear pads' outer material is velour.
Elex has been on Massdrop before. Back then and still no shipping to europe. This is stupid.
maninthehighcastle
Was the price 599 back then?
With Elear now selling for the same price and the brand new Elegia for $200 more; this drop lost a lot of the allure it once had, though I'm sure sonic nearly identical the closed-backness of the Elegia is just too important to me as I listen to my music in less-than-optimal environments for open backs.
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Boi have you heard of cases? Lmao worst case scenario he would have to get another pair, which is the same expense he is already doing
arachnidsGrip
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Sorry ArachnidsGrip, but Cdn_Adrian is spot on right, further explanation to satisfy your Curiosity Next: I do have 3 rigs , and on all of them altmost the same configuración, if you wonder ( ifi Micro IDSD BL. + an Amp ( 1 wyred4sound, 1 marantz 2325, 1 oppo ha2se ) cans: 1 HD 600, 1 hd 650, 1 Elex. And in my backpack is always a audiofly 1120 , so, in the move i do have a great headphone 0 leak IEM , and when i do arrive at work I just switch on all and im ready to rumble. Regarding about ; why dont you transport the Elex?, Cdn_Adrian is right again, if you happens to have 4 Kids, and each kid per week have at léase two extra curricular activities you Would be transporting the Elex to, rugby, football, Piano, horseriding, karate, and so on ... quite impractical too, because you cant use the Elex while you wait in between your kids activities ( since those cans are open..), so i do carry the oppo ha2se with the audiofly and enjoy music when i am not at work, without been worried to disturb anyone, and quite discreetely too, that includes gym and other sport activities . your further question could be , What do you do with the audio equípemt that you upgrade,,, Dacs, amps, cans ? ..... i do give those to my kids, fomenting them to apréciate music .
I was waiting for the next drop but found a brand new, open box pair on sale on EBay for $600 shipped 😁 Initial thoughts: great build quality, beautiful display case. Cables are best I have ever had come stock. Headphones are built like a tank but don't feel heavy or clamp hard in the head. Very comfy pads. Sound is amazing. Very open and airy. Bass extends well and deep, nice impact and clarity, not boomy or thumping. Mids are well balanced and smooth, nice timbre, sounds natural. Does not have bleed from bass or bleed into the treble, nice transition and detail. Treble is extended well and has good detail and clarity. Imaging is crazy good sounds from all over, details are all on display to hear. Soundstage is large enough but it gives you the 360 sound. Yes, I love these so much. As soon as I played a song I knew these are my end game headphone. I will write up a more detailed review in the future. Can't wait, this is going to be enjoyable.
I wish the Elex had the aesthetics of the Elear. I find the Elears aesthetics extremely more attractive, but the frequency graph of the Elex seems to be a better fit for me..
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What's the difference between the Elex and Elear? Why is the Elear normally more money, when the Elex seems more refined.
JustFluxz
https://www.verumsonus.com/focal-clear-vs-focal-elear-vs-focal-elex-comparison-review/
Read this for all the differences, but TLDR Elex is a lot better.
does this version / remake of elear suffer from "clipping" "flapping" sound as well? meaning that it can not handle much power and starts reproducing kind of mechanical sound?
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Hey, thank you for your reply! with Elear it happens not at that high volumes, so some more input will be wlcomed from people who had an experience with both headphones.
cheers
Gugman
Yes, I have clipped these playing very loudly with a lot of bass.
Hi there, is there an ETA on when the next drop will be available? I'm visiting family in the US from 2nd-11th of November, and want to know if they'll be available to be delivered by then, or if I should look for a different headphone.
Shafman
They’re dropping now, shipping immediately!
Is this worth the upgrade from the Sennheiser HD 700 and Beyerdynamic Amiron Home? Will I enjoy the sound enough in comparison to my other headphones or regret the amount of money spent? Hmmm...
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I'm sure you saw that Darkvoice amp just got added today??
cwelton17
I know. It's like I talked that drop into existence, hahah. Been doing some additional reading on it and various tubes on/off all morning. I stumbled upon the new Lyr from Schiit that has been getting good reviews as well as some other brands. But, I'm also torn as my THX 789 will be here at the end of the month so I may just wait until I have some ear time with it before pulling the trigger. The DV336 seems to pop-up here several times a year so I'm sure I could catch it around the holidays if I'm still in need.
Will these ever be available again?
VinceAnt
Now!