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BetaDaze
35
May 16, 2017
I really did want to buy this set, very much. But when all added up, for the base set, the tkl, the 60 and the 75 (to cover the bases and make sure the caps will cover whatever I decide to put them on) I just couldn't click join.
With the child kits needed to ensure compatibility with whatever board I'd want to use, and the shipping it would have cost me $150 Canadian dollars to get these keycaps to my door... as much as they are my most loved set so far from massdrop, I just couldn't justify it... $150 for a set of caps with no switches, no pcb no case and no cord... I had to let it go, as hard as it was to do.
I wish massdrop would live up to what I thought it was, that being a place where the power of group buys could be leveraged to help average people in today's economy get some nice things at a decent price... but sadly more and more I am seeing massdrop as a place for those with more money than they know what to do with to get "special" items to lord over the rest of us.
You broke my heart... goodbye miami dolche.. I'll always remember what might have been *sigh*
Emmeme
71
May 16, 2017
BetaDazeKeycaps are an extremely niche market and hobby and special profile like dsa is even more niche, not to mention from a high quality name like signature plastics. The price was very good considering all those things and that thousands of kits sold.
Johnny12times
39
May 16, 2017
EmmemeAgreed. After plenty of research, this was an easy sale and a good value with today's keycap market. No regrets, just impatience.
c_r_z
863
May 16, 2017
BetaDazeRegular DSA Dolch on PMK is $100 for base plus $25 for Numpad. Shipping to my country is $14.59. This means that buying it from there would be $139.59.
Miami Dolch is $107.95 for the same keys, with shipping included.
So buying this kit actually saves about $30 in comparison to the regular one on PMK.
PotatoTM
220
May 16, 2017
BetaDazeSadly as a Canadian Massdrop is almost never worth it, their shipping options usually push item's prices over those on other online stores and if not we get screwed by the conversion rate + duty fees anyway (which isn't their fault).
I found that the things that are worth purchasing on Massdrop over other online retailers is their exclusive deals or their "special drops" working with manufacturers or specific people (for example the Sennheiser HD-6XX or the WhiteFox Keyboard) those are the only drops were I can justify the price and even then it's more of a "they're the only place where you can find it" than a "they offer the best prices for this object".
I did end up buying this set, not because the prices are good (although it is better than a usual SP keyset by a little bit) but because you can't find this set anywhere else. As a custom keyset by MacGruber117 manufactured by SP... and SP prefers to work with Massdrop than individuals.
I do however agree with you that Massdrop is no longer a place for well-priced group buys (atleast for non-Americans) as their prices are not competitive with other online retailers with all the additional costs. Just trying to help justify this drop :P
BetaDaze
35
May 16, 2017
c_r_z$107.95 after the exchange is the thing... I could see paying $100 for a really nice set of keycaps... but sadly due to the exchange it ends up being just too much.
I honestly wish that the price for keycap sets that is quoted included the standard 60% modifiers.. even if it was say $45 for the alpha with the standard modifiers it would have helped the end price substantially.
It is a bit misleading to see a price of $35 dollars only to find out you don't even get enough to cover a 40% board because there are no modifiers included.
Wylte
9
May 16, 2017
BetaDazeHave you compared the prices to any other quality set? You would have been paying around $1 a cap, which is incredibly fair when you consider the custom order and limited nature. It sounds like you were comparing these to easily available Tai-Hao sets, when you should have been getting excited about the price/quality comparison to something like GMK. God forbid you see the aftermarket prices on popular SP drops from the past...
Cods
198
May 18, 2017
PotatoTMAs an Aussie the appeal of Massdrop is, I think, similar to what you note as a Canadian - and it's based more on the simple fact of availability of an item, shipped to me, rather than a comparison with other online retailers.
Over here (and, I'm sure, in some other countries) we we are generally stung with either or both of the following: A. The item is simply not available to buy. and/or B. If available, it either won't ship to here, or shipping is ridiculously expensive.
I lived in the US for a while, and it's remarkable just how odd it is to come from somewhere where you expect things to be a bit difficult, and then all of a sudden be at the centre of the internet shopping and delivery world... and then to leave again.
The UK is broadly similar, in my limited experience, and the EU seems like it's still pretty good compared to AU, CAN etc.
China, Korea, Japan etc are a bit different - they have overlapping but not completely congruent markets, and so have very healthy options that sit behind what is for many a language firewall. Hats off to all of you who are multilingual, by the way.
I suspect the differentiator is a combination of larger population + better and cheaper logistical infrastructure + existence of localised Amazon / Alibaba / Walmart / Target / Newegg / etc (just to cherrypick from alexa).
Anyway, long ramble, but my point is that there are many potential Massdrop customers who are peeved because they live at the centre of the online shopping world, and Massdrop sometimes compares only as 'okay' to their other options. There are also a lot of us who do *not* have such a high baseline to compare with, and for us, Massdrop is quite often not just 'pretty good+' but even 'only option if I want this'.
...and for keycaps, all of us can probably adjust our expectations - quality keycap sets with child sets are not inexpensive. It'd be nice if they were, but the reality is that they are not.
All of of which are very much first world problems ;)
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