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Matias Ergo Pro Combo Pack

Matias Ergo Pro Combo Pack

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Everyone loving there Ergo Pro? I'm really hoping the drop comes back!
turbineseaplane
I didn't buy through the drop and I was a bit iffy about the Ergo Pro even though I was impressed with it at the same time.
I've come to really like it. I still use my Ergodox mostly, but the Ergodox is so thumb heavy that my thumbs tire out and I need to use something that allows to me relax my thumbs a bit. The Ergo Pro does that for me. The modifier keys are ridiculously oversized to allow you to press it with the edge of your palm so I can do that instead of holding down a modifier key with my thumb.
I still have problems with keys double or triple actuating. Some switches just are prone to doing that, but it's pretty easy to fix. Removing the keycap and putting to back on seems to rattle the switch enough to reset it.
hyperlinked
Great to hear! I hope the drop comes back, but I'm sort of thinking it won't - Might just grab one direct from Matias
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Alright, I just joined. I hope that the off-gassing doesn't take that long to go away. I really don't like that. I'll have to do a side-by-side comparison with my ErgoDox and my Kinesis Freestyle 2 (with tenting!)-
Thanks for answering my questions everybody.
lo57
I'm using one of the samples and the smell was gone within an hour or so I feel like. Really comfortable to type on.
I own one of these and it's amazing. Been looking for a reason to pick up a second one for the office. On OS X it's trivial to remap some of the keys with Karabiner, like making the right control key an escape key, the caps lock into a control key. NBD. When the USB port on the right half flaked out (not sure why, was moving and may have left the cord in) they shipped me a replacement right away. Nice folks
I was interested to see this, as I'm always looking for a split keyboard with mechanical switches- I have two ergodox and absolutely love my Kinesis Freestyle2s- but after seeing the list of offenses for this drop (price the same as other sites, chemical off-gassing smell, quality control issues) - I think I'll pass. Anyone who has one care to comment to the contrary regarding the negative comments I'm seeing here? I *want* to try another split keyboard, because I enjoy them so much, but can't bring myself to do it without some testimonials...
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Quiet Clicks are where it's at ;)
100% agree. I have zero need for cut/copy/paste stand-alone keys. It's an absolute waste of keys.
So by 20% off you mean 0% off?...
Damn. $351.30 AUD in total. Wish I had gone for this keyboard before the AUD/USD differed so much.
This is where it is mainly sold at (it is $195 and has free 4 day shipping for most places in the US): https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1176
Is it possible to get this in nordic configuration (Swedish to be exact)? Will it be shipped from the US or is this EU friendly?
What is with all the hate on a num pad? This keyboard is so close to an MS natural
mst3kld
No hate on the numpad, it's just more ergonomic to have your mouse closer to the keyboard, also saving space is key here
I love the idea of this keyboard, but have been worried to shell out full price for a keyboard with known "repeating key" issues. Because multiple websites sell this for $195 (including shipping), and an extra wristrest for $5 doesn't appeal to me, I'll wait for a future drop. Perhaps a future drop will lower the price?
This connector is so ugly
Edit to my previous post: looking at my Ergo Pro, the padding on one of the wrist rests is permanently squished in one spot after 1 year of moderate use (alternating with another keyboard). It still feels fine, but the difference is visible. My guess is that tenting rotates the arm so that its weight is concentrated at one bone on the outside of the wrist, and Matthis didn't take that into account in choosing their padding. Heavy users might need a new wrist rest after 1-2 years. Unrelated: the extra Ctrl key for the right index finger comes in handy.
Hey everyone, wanted to clear up a few things.
1. The combo pack is for the Ergo Pro along with one additional wrist rest in a color of your choice. The wrist rests are where the feet for the Ergo Pro are found so they are pretty important to the whole setup. 2. Matias wanted to get more of these out in the hands of everyone. So they have dropped the MOQ for us significantly. This change has been made to the drop as well.
This is the most comfortable keyboard I've used, especially for furniture setups where my hands are at angle (I work standing up a lot, and my office chair is too low--this keyboard can compensate for either situation). I've had it for about a year and never had key issues. I think mine was from the second or third production run. I use it in a room with no bluetooth devices and no microwave nearby, with the wifi router at max strength. I don't love the switches--they're neither as satisfying as Cherry nor as smooth as Topre--but they've been reliable. The wrist rests have held up fine btw.
I'm typing on this keyboard right now. This thing saved my wrists, love it. I have some minor complaints about the layout, but it still beats anything else on the market.
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wibbles, if you like the Truly Ergonomic, why do you use the Matias for typing?
rake36
I keep the Truly Ergonomic at work, and I use the Matias at home, with a gaming keyboard in the middle of the Matias. I'm currently waiting on the most recent Ergodox to get here so I can solder that bad boy together.
Basically, I wanted mechanical, ergonomic solutions for typing so I tried a few and found places where they work best for me. While both keyboards are nice, they each have some quirks with key positions that irk me, and other minor things. The T.E. keeps your hands fairly close together for an "ergonomic" keyboard (even compared to, say, the Microsoft split board we're all familiar with) and the Matias has some apparent signal shielding issues. Nothing's been perfect yet.
I am typing on one of the Quiet Click ones right now. Feels great, but I do get the occasional "stuck" key, maybe 1-2 times a week. I had a Logitech wireless dongle plugged into it for my trackball, so, based on what I read below, I've moved that over to directly in my workstation based on what I read here (maybe that 'll fix it?).
I have the Mac version and it's easy to swap back and forth to Windows modes by removing the right COMMAND keycap and changing the DIP switches there. You can also set the L or R space bar to be backspace.
After a few months, I'm still not on "autopilot" for the non-standard "home/end/pgup/pgdn" cluster, and I never use the undo/cut/copy/paste cluster either. I do kinda wish they had a second "6" on the left hand as that's what I was used to from my previous Microsoft Natural keyboard, but that's a minor niggle for me. The ALPS-clone switches are hard to find alternative keycaps for.
The biggest reason why I wanted this keyboard over other ergonomic mechanical ones, is that the overall arrangement is the most like a standard keyboard, but still has the comfort split. I tried a Kinesis Advantage for a week at work, and while I could definitely see becoming adept with it in the long term, when I'm away from my office desk, I use a laptop and wouldn't want to have to spend the mental energy to remember to not use the extra thumb keys. (same with ErgoDox.)
Man, I can't see anything here I prefer over the Ergodox.
Hold your fire, we're all friends here right? The placement of the 6 key is subjective, imo. On most keyboards, the 6 is physically closer to the left index finger, but perhaps with ergonomic layouts that becomes a different matter.
That said, I have a quiet pro and I don't like the switches. They seem to jar my knuckles, and feel "crunchy" while typing. I gave it to a coworker. I haven't tried the linear ones, but I assume they wouldn't have the same issues I had with the quiet pro. Definitely a great looking keyboard.
I own one of these -- and it actually has a terrible problem with registering keys. It effectively acts like you have keys that get stuck. The manufacturer keeps saying it's due to having some wireless signalling source near the keyboard. It's pretty lame to have a *WIRED* keyboard susceptible to interference. After removing everything from my desk except my mouse, I gave up on it. Hope other people have a better experience than I did
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It's nice to see someone else who actually looks for PS/2 :) It really seems like USB was a big step back for keyboards. The KRO is a perfect examples of this. It seems like newer keyboards are working some magic since the last time I looked at the interface variances.
Regarding the keyboard situation... I'm in the same boat :( I game so I was looking forward to the Matias (specifically for the "supposed" NKRO). It does do okay in that regard -- it registered everything I could foreseeably press at once but it isn't *true* NKRO (still had a cap in the 20-30 key range IIRC). I didn't notice any ghosts in my tests either. If it wasn't for the whole repeating key thing I could've really stood behind this board.
My PS/2 Natural died a year ago, so I've been on the hunt. I'm using a MS sculpt ergonomic for work currently and it's surprisingly okay...The "chiklet" scissor switches have a shorter throw and feel a little better than the rubber domes, but they're not as nice as mechanical switches still. Still need something to work for programming by day and slaying orcs by night for home tho. I guess it's the ergodox next, but the thumb cluster scares me a bit haha
Edit: Just retested the "NKRO" and ghosting. Ghosting seems minimal (you have to try to find it with a ton of keys), and seems like I can mostly only get 10-12 keys of rollover, but the "U" key stuck during the tests :/
sehafoc
Remove the U key cap and blow compressed air around the base of the switch while pressing it a few times. See if that stops the repeating issue. I had a repeating T that was due to dust.
The reviews on Amazon are speak heavily to quality issues. For a $200 keyboard I would expect better. Has Matias addressed this yet or will we also be plagued by the same production process? Common issues: repeating keys, keys not working, spacebar double spacing. http://www.amazon.com/Matias-Ergo-Pro-for-Win/product-reviews/B00ZWPR506/ref=cm_cr_dp_see_all_btm?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=recent
RossL
When I was purchasing this over xmas for my dad, I contacted the company directly about the quality issues. Seems the double press issue was caused by an improperly shielded cable, which has been upgraded to solve the problem. I have heard no complaints from my father yet, who is pretty picky.
Disclaimer - I bought mine directly through matias, so I don't know if I got special new stock or something.
I bought one of these for my father (who has several hand issues) and he loves it. Since he's a piano player, he plays everything like a piano, and tends to be pretty hard on keyboards. These switches are quiet enough for me to hear him over the keyboard when we chat on the phone. Overall, feels at least as solid as my ES-87.
My only complaint would be that there really aren't any replacement keycap sets for it.
Was excited to see this keyboard here, because this is the one I'd like to get, but I can't bear spending $200 for it. Then I saw that even at Massdrop it is still $200.... not much of a deal here, sadly. Am I seeing it right that the "Combo Pack wording" and $300 MSRP is just because of the extra wrist rests? Are a pair of wrist rests really $100 MSRP? What is the benefit of having an extra set anyway?
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These are gel palm rests. They're WAY more luxurious than the Kinesis ones. I normally find palm rests useless. I actually use these.
hyperlinked
Thank you! Your information made my decision very easy. Yes, I use palm rests always, but gel rests are way more durable and I don't need another set so soon. :)
This keyboard is $200 on the Matias website. Fail. http://matias.ca/order/#ergopro
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DigiChaos
Yeah, came to point that out also. They also have a free shipping option too, so the advantage of this is.... ?
Wazu
An extra set of wrist/palm rest with different colors and a month wait.
shouldn't number 6 be on the left side?
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Kinesis Freestyle (my current board) has it on the left. Feels markedly more difficult to reach the same spot with my right index.
Also, I thought the Freestyle was an ugly keyboard... she's a beaut compared to this :D However, I'm sure the switches are night-and-day difference than the squishy softies on the Freestyle.
Edit: I'm being too hard on my Freestyle, I don't want to give the wrong impressions. Switches are smooth and have a very positive rubber-dome actuation feel, but they are consistent. I mostly don't like the lack of programmability, especially compared to what their Advantage has - there's 8+ keys that are useless to me that I'd love to remap, but can't.
Either way, I'm in line for the Ergodox Infinity, so this Freestyle will be either shelved as a backup or sold.
Yeah, nowadays I only use vertically staggered keyboards (Ergodox or TEK) so it makes more sense to me to type the 6 with the right hand, as it is nicely aligned there.