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At just 41.5 millimeters, the Orient Ray II is smaller than most divers, but it dons a striking color scheme for legibility at great depths (up to an impressive 200 meters). The dial is fitted with lumed markers and sword hands Read More
I disagree. Thats the whole point of MD. To obtain something at not available to the general public at a fair price or somehtng less than current retail. Your post makes no sense. Why would you use MD if you can get something for less with better time frames and shipping....
The band pins on this watch are really weak and I've gone through about 10 pins already. I even lost my watch in a park for a week (no one else saw it!) and found it by chance the following weeks because the pins keep bending out. The design of the pin holders on the band is not good as it allows for easy bending... this really needs to be fixed... anyone else had similar problems? Otherwise I really love the look of this watch and feels like great quality.
I quite like the metal band and didn't think it would be easy to replace it. I'll do some searching. Many thanks!
NikoToscani
Sep 20, 2017
illumanNot sure if someone mentioned it already but I believe this strapcode stainless bracelet fits the Ray II and Mako II. I've heard they're solid quality and the price is great. Screwed links rather than pins and solid rather than hollow end links - all for well under $100 USD.
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calvin16Might be that the group buy is with Orient USA, with other countries supplied Orient watches in their other region from Japan; not sure where the other distributions are for Orient. It would probably require a separate group buy negotiation.
Raj04I'd guess that MD is getting these from the US distributor, and the US distributor is likely contractually bound to insure that the watches are only sold in the US. In order to sell internationally, MD would probably have to find a dealer willing to do a grey market deal, but a dealer is unlikely to have more than a few watches, So, MD has to go to a distributor, but distributors have limited geographical selling areas (although these rules might be relaxed for a discontinued product, which the Ray is not).
A shame that the blue one isn't available with bracelet. However, I'm steering clear of this drop since it doesn't come with a warranty. If the watch breaks, or even needs to be timed, who do I even send this to?
The Mako II drop was much better-- $10 cheaper and came with warranty.....
My guess, and it's only a guess as I don't have any information whatsoever about the business relationships that this company has in place, is that Massdrop is able to offer such low prices on certain items because they are not authorized dealers of these items. They have to source them from grey market or unauthorized distributors in order to get them (and sell them) at prices that are lower than the threshold the manufacturer sets. An authorized dealer/seller/retailer usually gets product directly from the manufacturer and is eligible for the support and full warranty that the manufacturer offers, as well as the "AD badge" so that buyers know they are purchasing real items from a legitimate source. In return, among other clauses in their contract, the dealer has to agree to not sell the item(s) below a certain price set by the manufacturer. If they do so, they can lose their "AD" status and the advantages that come with it, ie: full manufacturer's warranty and support.
I've simplified this a bit and probably glossed over quite a few steps in the chain, but I believe that's the general gist. Cheers!
PostyyThank you for pointing this out, I honestly was considering getting on this. I would much rather have the bracelet on the blue faced Ray II anyways, cheers mate!