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Outdoor Research Helium HD Men's Jacket

Outdoor Research Helium HD Men's Jacket

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Well I wish I hadn’t just bought one of these at REI for $40 more. Great jacket and packs so small it is always in my daypack.
autojeremy
REI has a fantastic return policy that you could easily take advantage of in the least damaging way for all parties if you were concerned and or motivated enough. Just saying.
quick question. I'm not an outdoorsman but I was looking for a lightweight rain jacket to fit over work clothes like an undershirt and dress shirt. Would something like this look normal in the urban world or would it be stupid looking wearing this around in the city? Thanks
Edit: It doesn't really matter since everything is sold out but I'm still curious.
pwnerman
For most people it would be fine, but for the style conscious it would under dressed in a "downtown" area, but that is region specific.
ChurchillW
Thanks, I went with the Interstellar myself and it looks very nice. I think the trim style helps with being stylish but I'm a function over style person anyway when it's needed.
value for money
No XL. oh well maybe next drop
Massdrop please chime in on the 2XL vs XXL question. I just checked the Outdoor Research website and they don't even list a 2XL for this jacket so why is there one here? Is this an older model or is it supposed to say XXL?
Will it arrive before 20 March to a us address?
What about women’s version?
Chazzie
Outdoor Research does not make the Helium HD in womens. They do make the Helium Traveller jacket, which is much longer. https://www.massdrop.com/buy/outdoor-research-women-s-helium-jacket-or-pants
DannyMilks
ah righto! Thanks a lot!
Just for clarification, when I wrote my comment on the jacket mentioned in this drop, the Men's Helium HD jacket, I mistakenly referred to it as the Men's Helium II jacket, both from Outdoor Research.
REI is selling the Men's Helium HD jacket for $199.00 as compared to the Men's Helium II jacket for $159.00, so this drop is well under market price.
Both jackets are made from the exact same Pertex® Shield+ 2.5L 100% nylon 30D ripstop material, but the Helium HD is three ounces heavier, has pit zips, and a hood that will fit helmets, and zip hand pockets, among the differences.
As I stated earlier, from what I have read, been told, and researched, they seem like excellent jackets, that are light, and very breathable.
Hope this clarifies my previous comment.
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I am not sure where you are directing me.
Looked in all the blogs you cited, and linked, but could not find that date in any of those, or here in these undated comments.
Maybe I am missing something.
Would you please be more specific?
Thanks!
Nice, mahalo!
I think a good rain jacket that keeps you dry, and relatively free of perspiration is an essential outdoor gear item.
However, if you do not want to spend around $150.00 for a rain jacket, then I suggest that you take a long look at the Marmot Precip jacket, which you can usually find on Massdrop, EBAY, Sierra Trading Post, and other sites for around $50.00 to $60.00.
The Marmot Precip is a good rain jacket, (I own one) and is consistently rated as a Best Buy by the reviewers at the Outdoor Gear Lab.
Just to be fair and accurate, the Outdoor Gear Lab has also rated the Helium II as a top pick, so it is no slouch, just more expensive, but lighter, and a bit more breathable than the Marmot Precip. I noticed that REI is selling them for around $160.00, so this drop is probably a bit under market price, but pretty much the same when you add in the Massdrop shipping charges.
However, since I already own several similar rain jackets, and if I was willing to be somewhat redundant, and spend $150.00 for another rain jacket, I would rather try a rain jacket, or an insulated rain jacket for those cold times of the year, made with the Columbia Outdry technology, which purportedly eliminates the clamminess that one often experiences with Gore-Tex, eVent, Marmot Nano Pro, Marmot Nano Pro Membrain, Marmot Membrain Strata, Patagonia H2 No, and other multiple iterations, and versions of the aforementioned multiple fabric layer rain jacket technologies made with "breathable" membranes.
I might also want to try a jacket made with Polartec Neoshell fabric, which is similar to all of the aforementioned waterproof, breathable fabrics, but is considered "air permeable" so in extensive testing and reviews was rated as more breathable.
The Marmot Zion jacket, now discontinued, but still available here and there online is a good example of a Polartec Neoshell jacket that received great reviews regarding the breathability. Other well known names like Rab, Westcomb, Sugoi, and Mammut and others manufacture jackets using Polartec Neoshell.
By the way, all of the technologies mentioned here, have been out on the market for at least two years, and in some cases many more, as in the case of Gore Tex, and eVent.
I own several rain jackets made by Lowe Alpine (eVent), Marmot Precip, (Nano Pro), Marmot Oracle, (Marmot Membrain Strata, Marmot Artemis, (Marmot Nano Pro Membrain), a Gore Tex jacket issued to me by the NPS, and a Sierra Designs Badlands Nylon jacket with DWR coating.
By the way, the Outdoor Research Helium II jacket showcased in this drop uses a similar Pertex® Shield+ 2.5-layer ripstop nylon fabric, which is extremely durable, waterproof, and very breathable.
In most, if not all of these jackets there is a waterproof/breathable membrane sandwiched between two or more layers of fabric.
The outer fabric layer is treated with a durable water repellent (DWR) coating, and the inner layer is a liner that gets the water off your skin and helps move it to the membrane, keeping you (somewhat) nice and dry. There are varying degrees of dry based upon temperature, exertion levels, etc.
Please note that the outer layer of most waterproof jackets will start to "wet out" after some time, and will then have to be cleaned, and then the DWR coating, (Nikwax, Grangers, Revivex) will have to be reapplied again depending upon the usage level, rain, snow, or salt water exposure, ultraviolet light exposure, abrasion, etc.
According to my research Columbia’s new OutDry Extreme tech is built differently.
The exterior of the jacket is covered in a water-tight membrane that makes the jackets look and feel more like a rubber dry bag than the usual fabric exteriors of traditional waterproof, breathable jackets.
Columbia’s external membrane repels the big water droplets from rainfall but it’s not entirely sealed off, as the membrane has millions of tiny perforations that let water vapor evaporate out of the jacket. Below the membrane is a liner made of a nylon fabric that wicks water away from your skin. If the whole system works as advertised, an OutDry Extreme jacket will keep you dry, cool, and comfortable.
So, yes the Helium II is a great jacket, and probably worth the $150.00 price tag, if you are looking for the lightest waterproof rain jacket around.
But as we know, there is always a better mouse trap being built, so in the case of the Columbia Outdry, and Polartec Neoshell technologies, there may be more breathable jackets out there that will keep you bone dry.
I hope that all of this information helps you in some way, and is food for thought!
Following are a few links that you might find useful, informative, and interesting:
Marmot Waterproof Technologies... https://www.marmot.com/technology-articles/technology.html#water
Polartec Neoshell... http://dev.polartec.com/product/polartec-neoshell
Columbia Outdry Extreme Jackets, Reviews, Features and Specifications...
https://www.columbia.com/technology-outdry-extreme/#prefn1=genderGroup&prefn2=productClass&prefv1=Men%27s&prefv2=Jackets
https://blog.columbia.com/outdry_extreme/
https://gizmodo.com/columbia-outdry-extreme-the-future-of-rain-jacket-perf-1711780378
Another question.... what's the difference between the Helium HD and the Helium II?
What is the difference between XXL and 2XL? Are they the same? I have a Helium II XXL so I assume the 2XL is different? Thanks!
Only men's?
Also would like to know the shipping / arrival date.
Different date, different shipping address. Please let us know.
acacia
It says estimated shipping date of Aug 2nd but I'm in your boat as well, what is the estimated arrival date?
Have been patiently waiting the return of the OR helium HD drop for a while only to offered the three colours I didn't want to buy it in. Any chance of including the other colours as well?
riverdeep
Hey there riverdeep, What you see is what's currently available for this drop. Sadly we cannot add any additional colors at this time. Hopefully next time around we can offer the ones you want!
Anyone know what size the model is wearing?
would love to get this, but... the color choices are just beyond ugly. why no blue/green/orange/turquoise for men :/
Can we get the Women's version of the HD as well and not the traveller instead? We're getting the short end of the stick here...
anon9
OR does not make the Helium HD in womens size/fit, nor do they make the Traveler in mens size/fit. I agree that it's shameful that they don't make a womens version of the HD - seems like it would sell well.
DannyMilks
Well it appears our complaints are misdirected then! Looks like at one point they did, but they do not anymore. Shame.
I wish the women's version had pit zips!
Will this ever been available in the NON long version? I would like the HD!
Got to use mine from the last drop in a downpour while camping. The pocket and pit vents really helped to keep air flowing (the pocket interior is mesh, so there is air flow, but be careful as water can get in) The hood is great. Even after being stuffed in the pocket, it opened and formed well.
Hood is comfortable up or down even with a big neck (I'm 18" around) Reaching overhead to tie up tarps did not lift the jacket and the wrist closures were tight enough that not much water came down the sleeves. Probably the only thing that didn't seem to fit was a slight tightness around the chest. (I'm a 48R and I got the XL) Nothing I'd be concerned with in summer conditions, but if you wanted to wear this over a puffy insulating layer, you'd need to go up a size.
I really was amazed that I could wear this in the heavy rain, tie up tarps and other active work and not be totally soaked in either rain or sweat. When the rain stopped and the sun came out, I simply hung the jacket over a tarp line and it was dry in short order. I checked it about an hour after I hung it, but I'll bet it was dry sooner. Of course, the breeze helped, but still, that was plenty fast.
I like that the jacket stuffs into a package that is about the size of a paperback. The thin package really makes it easy to keep handy.
Dammit I just purchased a different Jacket because I couldn't find a good deal on this one or the OR Realm.
jmul
What was the $ for this one, if you don't mind me asking? I wish they showed it when the drop isn't active (maybe it could be subject to change).
Also hoping for this jacket before an upcoming London trip.
I was wondering about the ship date as well. Leaving for trip to Alaska this Saturday and was counting on taking this for my rain jacket.
Any updates on this? We are at the estimated ship date.
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Thanks, I didn't realize the HD has pit zips. Cool. (Pun intended.)
Peregrin8or
Yep! pit zips AND pockets! ...with the expense of about 3 oz of added weight, BUT to keep you cooler and dryer, it's definitely worth it!
Is this suitable for use while riding (motorbikes) in the rain? How long would it's water resistance last?
sysysy
honestly probably not... when I ride in the rain, I use heavy thick rain gear... which this is not, also if any debris would hit even small stones, sand, or sticks... you'll probably have holes real soon.
would this coat be good for ultra running in rainy conditions? anyone has experience running with this coat? Thanks!
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JeanValJean
The MVTR rating is around 25,000 which is decent and the pit zips would help and increase your odds of minimizing moisture build up, but personally, I would lean more to using it for hiking or backpacking in cooler to cold weather as it will completely block the cold wind and help prevent hypothermia. Research and look for Neoshell for running in warmer weather where there is rain. I would also try to find pit zips for the the Neoshell. Neoshell has air permeability ratings around .5 CFM and Pertex is 0 CFM . I have found it helpful to find garments for the application that minimize moisture build up as drying out faster can make your day more comfortable.
JeanValJean
Yes the jacket is quite perfect for trail running. except the helium hd has only one drawback: the weight.
The only jacket i use for running is the patagonia houdini (if there is no rain but it could be windy) and the marmot essence (if there is most likely rain or competitions must have gear).
All running jackets with no pit zips will make you sweat to much. The mentioned TNF hyperair made me sweat trying it in store.
HD has pit zips, which is for me a must have for a running used rain jacket.
Would have loved to join this drop but I recently bought it for quite a bit more at REI and it's been a good jacket so far. Loved the original Helium so I'm hopeful the HD lives up to my expectation as well.
I SOOO wanted to get behind the Houdini, the Helium, and now the Helium HD, but if vendors aren't going to make a windshirt for us big guys, I'm not going to support a drop. I need a 2XL, a hood, a full zipper AND pit zips; if you build it, we will BUY.
iyak
This drop seems to offer what you are asking for, but only in black.
I have been looking for a deal online on this coat since the last helium ii drop ended... really wanted pit zips. Thanks MD!