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Panasonic Toughbooks (Refurbished)

Panasonic Toughbooks (Refurbished)

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I've been debating getting the cf-53 a lot but may have to sit out in the end. If you were able to get your hands on cf-54s with AMD internals I wouldn't have needed to think before picking one up.
I've used 2 CF 18s and a CF 19 since 2005. I used them in the rain, snow and extremely cold conditions. They stayed in my van during -19C nights and 44C days. Dented, bashed to $hit, missing keys, they worked until my company swapped them out for newer ones.
we used these in the military
I‘ve seen them fall from the top of an aircraft down to the concrete hanger bay floor (10’+), explode all their little pieces and covers everywhere and work perfectly when put back together. This was back when they had platter hard drives as well.
There are sexier computers, faster computers, and better equipped computers out there for the price but all of them will die a horrible death on what one of these would consider an “average” day. If I had the money I’d buy one right now.
Feather
I had one survive a total blackout sandstorm in Baghdad. It was on and running (outside with me) through the whole sandstorm (if you don't know they produce a crazy amount of atmospheric static electrical discharge) and had zero issues with it. It was caked inside and out with sand, we took it back to the TOC, disassembled it, blew it out with canned air and it trucked along through the next 7-8 months of my deployment. Passed it on to the next guy.
Wait a minute, this isn't eBay. Hock your old second hand hardware there Massdrop. Could've atleast sold good refurbished tough books. I used one of these for work and it's crap compared to dell and getac alternatives.
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Getac are the Rolls of rugged laptops and tablets. The price tag also reflects that and you will not find any under $1,000 that are refurbished!
stevelanger
I will assume you meant not refurbished. As I picked up a £400 Getac v110 in near new condition for on site work. Highly recommend if you can get over the keyboard which is hard to use with gloves on, price to pay for the size though!
Would be nice if these had Libreboot support. Hard to pick them over a ThinkPad when they don't.
what's the expected battery life on these?
musou
I used one on patrols in Baghdad for 6-8 hours at a time with plenty of juice left, and that had several programs open at a time.
I remember when 1AD started fielding these back in the late 90s. We beat the shit out of them all over the Balkans and Europe on deployments and field exercises. Once the new wars kicked in and I was out of uniform as a deployed civilian, I saw a few that were in vehicles that were completely blown up by IEDs. The chassis were somewhat OK, but the screens were demolished. No problem, pop the hard drive out and slap it in a USB drive carrier and the unit could rescue their data. You can close the lid on some of the older Panasonic Toughbooks, grab it by the handle, beat a few people to death with it, then pop it open and get some work done. This would make a good Chromebook.
As a humanitarian working in Congo, I'd be very interested in such a computer for my field trips in areas with rugged roads and rebel groups, as my Macbook Pro isn't necessarily the best suited for this. I also perfectly understand the price premium that comes with the piece of mind of having your data stored in a bullet-proof case. If only I hadn't just bought a rather expensive watch... :(
does this have AMD inside?
Soko
Intel
Man, If I had 500$ to throw down I'd be seriously interested in this. I've always wanted a toughbook or equivalent rugged computer.
I think a lot of people here just don't appreciate or don't understand the use case for these things, and have never priced out how incredibly expensive more up to date ruggedized computer equipment is. Your home laptop is held together with tickytack and dreams and will fail if you splash coffee or it or knock it off a table. They're not built for any kind of hard use. Toughbooks and similar products *are* built for hard use in weird conditions, and they're marketed as special business products, and their price reflects both their niche use and their usual direct to business or government market.
Am I the only one who found it ironic that this is a super duper ruggedized Toughbook that's.... refurbished? :-)
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EatingPie
If you'd seen what we did to them in Iraq you would understand the need for "refurbishment."
For the kids here bashing on these for the specs, listen up. I've used a CF-53/54 all over the world in the worst conditions and they are the only bombproof laptop currently sold. Usually these are way out of the consumer space b/c a new one well equipped is well over 4k$. I like the keyboard on these and the touchpad is actually really good. For me these killer feature was always the screen. If your regular dell laptop has brightness from 1-10 then think of this as having (-10, 0-10, 20); the fact that they screen can get super dim was always fantastic for being outside at night -> and it's one of the only laptops in the world with a decent daylight readable display.
I can't think why I'd need one in my personal life, but I bet there are some astronomers or rugged folks who would otherwise never consider it.
Teque5
Have you tried other laptops
Is this a joke? I have a 12 year old HP with similar specs that Mass Drop can sell for 500 bones! In fact, if I secure my minimum purchase order, I will cut the price in 1/2! Who is approving this? Get your act together Massdrop!
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ryanpatricktracy
A brand new toughbook with good specs is going to cost you as much as an imac. These things are designed to be as indestructible as possible, not fast. What matters is that they WORK, and continue to WORK. Nothing else.
ryanpatricktracy
Seriously? 12 years? As in TWELVE? A very simple search reveals that the CPU in this laptop was released in Q3 2013, so it's now 5 years old. If you have a laptop that is 7 years older than that and it can outperform this one please, PLEASE post some benchmarks.
FWIW...I've used C2's for a few years on a ambulance and helicopter. They've been dropped and kicked...and drop-kicked... and have yet to fail...from that. However, the keyboards are awful. The keys pop off too easily. I've also had the drives mysteriously come unsecured and slide out. oops. The touch screen is errr...it works. and yeah...they're slow but at least the battery sucks. I no longer have the patience to deal with waiting for Windows and have adapted to using a Chromebook Plus and I'm never going back. Ha. Get one and run Linux.
the specs are not great, but these are not for gaming. Better suited for people who work in the field, outdoors. When I worked for the Port of Oakland we used these for Harborside operations. I’m tempted to pick one up for some of my field IT jobs. I get nervous about using my Mac in some places.
I genuinely don't believe this one is worth it..... Not with those specs for that price....
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Rest assured, the entire IT community agrees with your personal advice.
If you don't see value, you don't need one. Many people also have no use for chainsaws, SDR rigs or climbing shoes.
Some of us do things a little more active than gaming in an air-conditioned suburban bedroom and see value in a machine that can take a little abuse in the field. Who cares about the specs? You don't take a machine to the desert to play Fortnite or whatever.
Anyone else find a refurbished toughbook to be a bit ironic.
whomad1215
Just because they can take a beating (which they absolutely can!), doesnt mean components can’t fail. I know you were joking, but I deploy the 53’s all of the time at work, and they get the crap kicked out of them. If they would upgrade the hard drives in our to solid states, they would be even better. A tough book with a mechanical drive makes no sense these days.
whomad1215
If you'd seen what we did to them in Iraq and Afghanistan you'd understand.