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keyboard_arrow_downBruceym
77
Mar 22, 2017
I'd be more apt to join this drop if they were gmo, if it was a survival situation I'd rather have plants that need less attention
OzarkCamper
35
Jun 21, 2018
I am reluctant to even post into this quagmire, because I know doing so will just make me a target, but in the interest of trying to inject some level of fact checking into this argument, please read the article and citations on Wikipedia on GMO foods in Europe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_food_in_Europe
I can honestly say that I do not know what side of this argument I fall on, I am familiar with the talking points on both sides, but the way these personal opinions are being served up, by both sides, with out any links to corroborating facts, journal articles, scientific studies (PRO or CON) makes this entire thread, little more than noise.
I applaud anyone who feels they have found some nugget of truth in life and wants to share it with others, but doing so with barbed comment, and personal slights doesn't help anyone understand or learn from the points you are trying to make.
Share the knowledge you have gained in life but do it in a way that educates, not alienates others. Share the articles and science that have help you form your opinion, so that others may learn. Otherwise an opportunity to learn, will be lost in all the angry rhetoric.
In case I haven't been clear enough, I am not aiming this at either side, but rather, both.
I can honestly say that I do not know what side of this argument I fall on, I am familiar with the talking points on both sides, but the way these personal opinions are being served up, by both sides, with out any links to corroborating facts, journal articles, scientific studies (PRO or CON) makes this entire thread, little more than noise.
I applaud anyone who feels they have found some nugget of truth in life and wants to share it with others, but doing so with barbed comment, and personal slights doesn't help anyone understand or learn from the points you are trying to make.
Share the knowledge you have gained in life but do it in a way that educates, not alienates others. Share the articles and science that have help you form your opinion, so that others may learn. Otherwise an opportunity to learn, will be lost in all the angry rhetoric.
In case I haven't been clear enough, I am not aiming this at either side, but rather, both.
Rebuswind
228
Jan 1, 2018
Non-GMO＝lower germinating rate=less yield=low ability against disease and pest=less nutrition...
why in the world would I torture myself in a survival situations with those?
SteveDrop
66
Jun 24, 2018
You clearly don't know what you are talking about. GMO crops are genetically modified to include pesticides like with BT Corn, or resist herbicides like GMO Soy.
That is a very distinct separation from hybridization, which selectively breeds plants to get specific traits like disease resistance. One is natural, the other is not.
There IS a difference between Hybrid and GMO.
Please read up on the subject more.
That is a very distinct separation from hybridization, which selectively breeds plants to get specific traits like disease resistance. One is natural, the other is not.
There IS a difference between Hybrid and GMO.
Please read up on the subject more.
Jaytal
174
May 5, 2019
Now I see where the limp-wristed and spineless scientist archetype from TV and movies comes from.
JonasHeineman
5987
Sep 20, 2016
I would refer you to the S6E18 episode of MacGyver, "Faith, Hope and Charity," in which our intrepid protagonist thwarts a mobster's home invasion by whacking dude in the face with a mop covered in cayenne pepper. Undeniably, the sweet old ladies' spice rack proved to provide a tactical advantage in what I think we could all agree is a totally common and realistic scenario. #EveryDayCayenne
Jollyriffic
74
May 31, 2017
Would buy if it was 100% GMO Guaranteed. I'd much rather have seeds that grow larger, ward off bugs on both the aboveground portions and roots.
These terrible hipsters and there "i get all my supplements from rainbows and dandelion sun beams"
tsf45
54
Sep 15, 2017
And most gluten intolerance is actually Roundup intolerance. Crops are soakedd in Roundup just before havesting to make it easier.
GeneralStrike
20
Sep 26, 2018
JollyrifficGood luck finding an agricultural mega-corp that will allow you to gather seed from your GMO crop and re-plant it, rather than buying new seed from them again the following year!
joshbroton
5
May 25, 2017
GreengooI think the EDC community also includes a lot of prepper/survivalist items. This would fall into those categories.
MuffinPuffs
15
Aug 3, 2017
I just want to buy some seeds. I really do not care what you all pendejos have to say.
halfbellstate
113
Aug 2, 2017
Hi all you GMO fearing souls, please note that even your non GMO foods are not the same plants our ancestors were eating 15000 years ago. For instance, rice was not big and fluffy, and carrots were not orange, and bananas have seeds. Therefore the oh no we are altering genetics is not a valid argument because it is just an accelerated form of whatever we have been doing for the past few hundred centuries. Sure there are some unethical GMO corporations, but it doesn't mean all GMO is bad. Just like how Google collects your search data and sells it to advertisers doesn't mean all search engines are inherently bad.
GeneralStrike
20
Sep 26, 2018
halfbellstateSorry, that's not entirely true. Artificial selection methods - such as have been used for thousands of years - cannot insert a novel gene (such as from a bacterium) into a plant; you are limited to working with the genetic material that is already present within the species. Modern scientific techniques have massively increased our ability to pursue and accelerate conventional breeding methods, and this is very beneficial. However, the ability to insert entirely new gene sequences into a plant, taken from unrelated species or totally different organisms, is new, and is not merely an accelerated form of conventional breeding.
russ311
18
Oct 20, 2017
To anyone making a fussy statement about gmo on this nongmo product, is clearly just prooving a non point. Gmo crops aren't bad for you to eat, it's the glyphasate and 24d they spray on them that kill you from the inside. Non-gmo grains are far more toxic than gmos, do your research.
These seeds are conventionally grown, with fungi, pesti and herbicides, which is what might contribute to them not germinating and having low yields. Monsanto does own the patent on marketmore and beefstake though, but that doesnt mean it has been genetically altered by crisper yet.
These seeds are conventionally grown, with fungi, pesti and herbicides, which is what might contribute to them not germinating and having low yields. Monsanto does own the patent on marketmore and beefstake though, but that doesnt mean it has been genetically altered by crisper yet.
Uzuzu
1431
Oct 24, 2017
russ311Non-gmo grains are far more toxic than GMOs, LOL.
Toxic to what standard? A lot of small levels of stuff considered toxic for you in plant material is actually beneficial for your overall health. Like wolfberries.
Yeah, Monsanto has damage control even in these remote forums.
yooo
14
May 31, 2017
why restrict to non-GMO? unless you're susceptible to conspiracy theories, for some of these, you could find better GMO seeds with respect to "hardiness and ability to grow in almost any region". Like drought-resistant seeds for instance...
yooo
14
Oct 19, 2017
yeah I am saying I'd rather see GMO than heirloom vegetables as they should be better suited to fit the "hardiness and ability to grow in almost any region". You obviously don't understand either English or basic logic. Learn.
GeneralStrike
20
Sep 26, 2018
yoooI guess because you can't gather seed from most GMO crops and re-plant it.
chadddc
77
Sep 19, 2016
If you guys are done with the jokes about the seeds as they pertain to edc or tactical gear, perhaps we can talk about the actual product. I asked /r/preppers what they thought and someone recommended I check out a link that lead me to this: http://survivalseedbank.vegetable-gardening-guide.info/my-patriot-supply-survival-seed-vault/
Pretty decent info.
Pretty decent info.
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