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Plum 87 Electro-Capacitive Keyboard

Plum 87 Electro-Capacitive Keyboard

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I would also love to buy the bluetooth version of this.
Would be down for MD to drop the 45g Bluetooth model!
does is it have dampener/silencer ?
Is this a good keyboard for users of Apple-keyboards? Im very used to my dying A1243 and had some random OEM rubber dome keyboards. So I thought a quality version of these would be a good idea, but how close are 35/45g to the A1243 apple aluminium keyboard?
Where do I download the software for this?
Would anyone be able to take a pic of the case’s cable input? I want to make sure my custom cable will fit in the case. Some cases have plastic that will interfere with the custom cable plastic.
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nevermind, I was wrong. It uses a mini USB input like one person mentioned.
LuaCat
I may be way off on this but it is my opinion. I had this and returned it to Amazon. If you think you are getting a cheap Topre board, you are not. I own 6 Topre and Leopold boards and this is not them. It is also cheaper. The keys were not very uniform on my copy. Some made completely different sounds then others. It also does not sound like a Topre board. I replaced mine with 45g sheet and it did not make too much of a difference. Mine had silencer rings but if you remove then, it makes quite a big plastic on plastic sound. Do not get me wrong. It is ok for what it is but I just want to keep expectations in check a little bit. It is what it is. I also have the RGB version of the 84 that has the arrow keys built in, with no spaces. It is ok as well. Thanks for taking the time to read.
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What do you mean by "for no reason"? Were you getting ghosts or do you mean it was impossible to avoid accidentally pressing the \ key?
hyperlinked
Ghosts. I was wondering what was constantly making the windows warning sound even when not touching the keyboard, then I saw that every once in a while a \ would type itself into the start menu search.
I love this old design and old school colour. I have not tested an electro-capacitive keyboard though.
Does the cord detach from this?
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They've changed it then as the cord detaches from the one I grabbed from the start of the year.
Sheeepman
That's good. Def a needed upgraded.
Is this the EC87-S (silenced) version? Very interested in this board but a bit confused as I've seen it listed as both the Niz EC87 and Niz EC87-S, are there multiple versions or are they all silenced? Thanks!
fpac84
They're all silenced with a factory installed silicone silence ring (similar to the kbdfans silence-x for topre switches). Since this drop isn't for the bluetooth version, then yes this is the EC87-S. EC87-BLE is the bt version.
too bad about the color. If it was grey, black or a decent color I'd be on it. But White? This will be an unsightly beige mess after a month or two of heavy use. Didn't we learn anything in the early 2000's?
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"This will be an unsightly beige mess after a month or two of heavy use. " To quote you directly.
I've used mine for ages now and there's no sign of colours changing or imperfections from use. Mine came with PBT key caps and the case is something that you'd very rarely be touching, so there's not going to be any alterations from that.
That beige fading doesn't happen nearly as much anymore because it used to be a byproduct of certain flame retardant fillers being added to the plastic resin, ones that are now banned in almost every major industrial country in the world. That's why you don't see the yellowing effect pretty much at all anymore.
Source: I work in plastics.
What does the "M" function on the pause break do??
mugshotmike
Whatever you do, DON'T PRESS THE M FUNCTION!
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why
These 35g Nopres are perfect for me! I recently came to the conclusion that my old Realforce 103U was just too hard on my hands. I loved the feel, but I can't type for long on anything other than a linear switch thanks to the hand injuries I've accumulated from decades of typing at really fast speeds. I was pretty bummed out when I sold it and I was hopeful that these 35g linears would be close enough to my departed Topre board and they are! The keystrokes are smooth and this board somehow managed to be "thocky" while still being extremely quiet!
If you're freaking out about the 35g weight, give it some time. Within a week, you'll have adapted and anything heavier than 35g is going to feel like pushing boulders to you. That has some drawbacks though. When you get your hands on a keyboard outside of your control, you're going to be more clumsy than you normally would be, but for those of you who type a lot, a low force board is something that you really should try habituating to. Hopefully you don't end up with chronic RSI like I did.
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Yeah, they suddenly exploded with a bunch of variants of their keyboards, but with mechanical switches. I read somewhere that the original Matias switches weren't actually their own switches, but are rebranded versions of a clone. Supposedly, the ones they use now are actually their own switches, but I have a hard time believing a small keyboard company would be able to maintain a manufacturing line of niche switches, especially when there are other companies now also making replica ALPS. Maybe someone else can jump in an explain where different variants of ALPS come from these days. I tried to look up info online and it all seems to go in circles.
hyperlinked
I remember following the Matias Click switches news, and they make enough business that they can satisfy MOQs for whoever manufactures it. So it's their design inasmuch as an iPhone is Apple's design, although made by Foxconn, made to their specifications for their uses etc. Matias Click switches were the first ALPS clones I was aware of (apart from whoever made green ALPS on the TP3). I bought a 10-pack of those to replace any failed switches on my TP3 once one started getting bad actuation issues. So I still have 9, though I did prefer how it had much less ringing/pinging than real ALPS switches. I had 2 or 3 other switches starting to chatter at the end, but I knew I was replacing the board soon anyway. I wanted Cherry stem for keycaps too, which is part of why all the "it's like ALPS" chatter about BOX switches got me interested.
I just received mine today, and it came with extra springs. What are they for?
Also, there's pretty much zero tactility here. Is that a feature of the domes being super-light 35g, or the slider mechanism?
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As @Xyverz said, it's a pretty decent braided cable, but I was wrong about it being micro-USB. It's mini-USB.

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hyperlinked
Hey thanks so much!
My earlier post on where to find "55g" domes is still apt. The change it makes for this board is tremendous.
Interestingly, those "55g" domes are really about 40g. The board, when complete, comes out feeling just a tiny bit lighter than a Realforce 45g board. But don't take my word for this. A force curve of such a board is here: https://plot.ly/~haata/573.
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Ah, you're a vendor. You might actually have more than just nickels! What's the equipment used to produce force curves for keyboards? I mean, what's the name of that kind measuring devices?
hyperlinked
You would call it a force-travel gauge. Cheers.
how does this compare to the abko hacker k945p/k935p V2 or V1?
Is this actually gonna take a month and a half to ship!?!? It says its going to ship september 13 and then I still have to wait for it to arrive after that. I've never bought anything on massdrop but that just seems insane!
mugshot
Yeah that’s typically how it works. On the bright side, you saved money and the trouble of dealing with international fees/duties
mugshot
If you can't afford the wait then you can order straight from their website @ nizkeyboard.com but it'll cost you like $40 more
This is a good keyboard. But I recommend buying heavier rubber domes off of ebay and swapping them.
when will MD offer the RGB/BT version? I’ve been eyeing the plum since the rk sold out loooong time ago. I just can’t seem to source a 55g RGB version.
audax989
Look up the ABKO Hacker K935P. It's not BT, but it's the same switches as the Plum, with 45g. best board I've ever typed on. The K945P is the RGB version, and the K965P is the 108 key version. They're only available in Korea but damn worth the money.
was hoping a drop in atom66 with bluetooth (60% form factor from NiZ) oh well....
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it is actually less painful than you think with the cherry style keycaps. imagine a HHKB / realforce with actual topre switch. It's damn expensive and basically need to get a brand new topre keyboard to swap.
Hikashi1988
He's referring to the nonstandard spacebar size which basically no one uses.
Does this work with Windows 7? It's not listed on the list of OSes.
girlnamedmaria
It should wired because all keyboards (windows) all speak the same language to the computer even on windows ten old ibm keyboards that are ps/2 work on any windows ten computer so the plum should seeing that it works on windows 10
Does anybody know of an add-in controller to make this fully programmable via TMK/QMK, or is my best bet the inline USB dongle?
As someone who has typed on this board for over a year, it's very good value for the money and feels well built. I have a silenced 87U with kbdfans sliders and there are too many loose keys. Paired with the left ctrl having a completely different slider that isn't included in the kbdfans sliders, not being able to use a different cap leaves me using stock caps on the Realforce. Due to being able to seamlessly use any keyset on the Plum, dare I say it, I have been using this board more than my Realforce.
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Scratchy is probably a bit harsh of a way for me to describe it - more like "not as smooth as Realforce". I actually have the variable-weighted Realforce 87U due to my RSI as well and quite like the weighting of this one.
Username931235324
I just got mine and I'm typing on it now. I see what you mean. It's really hard to describe.
I rather like the feel and I really like the ultra low 35g weight. It's exactly what I wanted. It's a low force linear switch with a feel similar to a Topre board. It's definitely a fraternal twin of the Topre.
Is this the detachable cable version?
diyl
Yup
FYI you can buy a 65g sheet on ebay and replace it. Very easy to do. I have a different keyboard but replaced it with 65g. Very tactile. IMO, EC steams have the best feel for backspace and possibly spacebar.
Black and with something like 45-50gr switches, 35 just sounds wayyyyy too light. I already have issues with Cherry MX Reds.
kyuss80
Its a dif weight overall, i find light the reds and am super satisfied with the 35 Plum ones. They used to offer a black color in a specific model.
angelbts
I think it was called the Chopin model.
If this came in black it would be awesome.
Side question: I've never modded a keyboard before or done any soldering or anything like that... but would it be easy, hard, or impossible, to put the insides of this into another keyboard body like a CoolerMaster QFR?
Arg0
I'm not sure what the plate and pcb look like exaxtly on this board, but I would guess that a case swap would be unlikely. Most keyboards have a case that is specifically moulded to take it's own plate/pcb which includes proper spacing and retention specific to that combo. It may be possible if you dremmel out standoffs and figure out a way of retaining the Niz pcb though you may be better off painting it's current case or making a custom one out of wood or acrylic.
Question. I'm clumsy as shit and spill small amounts of water or tea on my current mechanical keyboard every now and then(it survives). Will I have any major issues if I have an accident with an electrocapacitive or is it more or less the same? Will the rubber sheet protect the insides from liquid-caused damage?
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Arg0
i spilt beer on mine and now the c, v and n keys often stick down. tried iso and compressed air but it was a very thick beer. just my experience. it's an absolute dream to type on except for the beer.
i often do a full australian beer ceremony around my electronics.
Maybe you could get a slightly lower table for your tea. Relatable though
I'm really excepted for this drop since I've heard a lot of good things about the feel of the keyboard. I bought some Cherry MX compatible key caps from Massdrop to go with this keyboard. 1. are they compatible? 2. is there anything i should pay attention to when changing them? I haven't had an electro-capacitive keyboard before
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None of them came with springs? That's how it determines the 35, 45, and 55g capacity. I receive mine tomorrow from this drop, I'll let you know what I figure out hands on.
Scr1be
Welp, I got my board in, and applied my springs! Gotta say I prefer the typing with them. I didn't receive springs for every cap though. I also had a shoddy right shift key and the stabilizers fell off and won't fit back on. On the bright side though, you'll only need the springs if you want to add a weight to your caps to prevent bottoming out