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RH Preyda Deluxe Honing Kit

RH Preyda Deluxe Honing Kit

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Bought it without much thought as a drunk purchase and started wondering why it's named a "honing kit." From my understanding, honing and sharpening are different, so would this then not be used for sharpening? Also, what's the best way to clean these?
If somehow the stones ship earlier than the expected date, I'll be thrilled! I've got a few blades in need of sharpening.
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Hello forum,
Pardon my ignorance. I just received the deluxe 3 stone kit and have no clue which stone is which. -Soft -Hard -Surgical Black
Please help
PaLee
Left looks like soft. Right looks like hard black/true black/surgical. Middle one is probably the hard stone, then... I've seen those either be lighter, or darker. If you've got a pocket knife, try them out. The surgical black will feel smooth (not quite glassy), and the soft will feel quite scrapy.
Wow the large kit sold out. That's a bummer!
Hmm, just noticed that the 3 stone kit is now sold out.
With quantities limited to 30 of each kit and only 34 kits purchased in total it seems almost everyone is going for the larger 3 stone kit.
Just ordered the large 3 stone kit, but noticed on the order confirmation page that my total was $10 too low and there was no mention of the 3 stone kit option I'd selected.
So I went to my transactions page with the intention of cancelling the order and trying again but found that on the transactions page the order did have the correct total and correctly showed the 3 stone kit option.
Hopefully all is well. Anyone else notice this issue when they ordered the large 3 stone kit?
Jaggi
My order for the 3 stone set shows 47.74.
Interstellar13
It was only on the order confirmation page that I was shown the incorrect total, unless you happen to have noticed it when placing your order there's probably no way to go back and see whether the total shown there was correct or not.
I was shown a total of $46.24 on the confirmation page but the correct total (as show on my transactions page) is $56.24.
i joined this for the 3 stone set. i found the same thing on amazon for an oddly low price: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073DJZJM5/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 the description says 1oz oil but the pic shows the same 4 oz bottle. we shall see if it is indeed the same when it gets here.
edit: after reading the description closer it only mentions the soft and hard stone - no mention of the third hard black stone. so im assuming the amazon link i found is only for the 2 stone set for 37.00 and not the 3 stone set. i guess ill be keeping my mass drop order.
FYI- I joined, would like to experiment with these stones on straight razors, with the understanding I'll need to add an Arkansas stone of a higher grit, to put a finish edge on the razors. FWIW I have used Belgian Coticles for razor honing in the past with much success yet have wanted to try using Arkansas stones just to change it up. That said I would be remiss if I didn't mention using a few Japanese Naturals for straight razors too, along with film
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Thank you, I will likely buy the finer grade of Arkansas you speak of here, to sharpen/hone straight razors. I've used mostly coti stones for razor honing and as much as I enjoy shaving from that surface, I'm just looking to change it up. Buying this larger 3 stone set was a no brainer for me. That said, time is always of importance. I've been so busy, haven't used my cotis in quite a while but, most of the razors I shave with, still have a shave ready edge, due in no small part by knowing how to strop, shave, on and on. As a back up plan, I thought if my time was really pinched, or I lost interest in this side project, I could always give this three stone set to my carpenter. He isn't into sharpening any of his blades but he's a young man with plenty of time to learn. Again, just thinking out loud but I would like to play around with the Arkansas to craft a shave ready edge, just to learn how it's done with them. So little time, so many stones to hone with=:-)
Don't have a translucent, so cannot comment on them, personally. I've heard a lot of folks swear they cut finer than hard black. I should probably get one just to try, at this point.
Didn't see it answered yet, so I'll ask. What grit are the stones, or what grit does the set range from?
Lukehrli
You can see other replies from me, further down. There is good info on Arkansas stone grit here: https://www.danswhetstone.com/information/stone-grades-101/
This drop lists Soft (4-600 grit equivalent), Hard (800-1000), and Hard Black (2-3000). Dan's lists Soft (6-800), Hard (800-1000), and Hard Black (1200+). "True" Hard, Translucent, and Hard Black are all at the same approximate grit equivalent. Actual results depends on the particular stone you get; some people prefer one colour or the other.
Keep in mind that Arkansas stones cut considerably slower than equivalent synthetics. They require practice, skill, and quite a lot of patience.
If you're interested in natural stones, definitely pony up the extra money for the large/3-stone kit. The larger stone size (particularly the half-inch extra width) will make sharpening anything larger than a small pocket knife easier. The Hard Black stone is a nice bonus, if you're sharpening anything fine, like kitchen knives (or razors).
I've been using Arkansas stones for probably 15 years. My granddad taught me. I can probably answer if you've got questions.
Disclosure: I don't actually have any of the RH stones. I've already got a full set of similar stones from another reseller, but these look good, and the price is GREAT. If I didn't already have a set of bench stones, I'd buy them.
Lukehrli
Small = 4/600 and 2/3000
Large = 4/600, 800/1000, 2/3000
How well would this work for a cpm-154 blade? Specifically a Kershaw launch 1? 7100bw
Just got mine. The stones are great and I look forward to using them, but I was very disappointed with the box. The lid just sits loosely on top, there is nothing to hold it on or in place.
DC13
Weird, isn't it?
Can anyone tell me how important the extra stone really is? Like could i go without and if i did would i see any significant loss in effectiveness?
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dudester101
By extra do you mean the 800/1000 in the large? Basically, it's not required to have at all, you're just going to spend more time on your higher grit stone to pull burrs, the intermediary stone let's you clean the previous grits scratch marks up a tad quicker. Really you don't even need the 4/600 stone, if you don't mind spending an eternity on your high grit stone.
dudester101
Just got mine. I didn't expect much, but, there is a significant difference using this set. Black stone makes it sharper, but isn't really necessary. It's just an added aesthetic, I think.
Would these be suitable for use on folding knives/EDC knives . Specifically S35VN and D2 steel?
GoKartMozart
D2 I have been able to sharpen. I have a blade that is also S35V, can't get anywhere with that. Been looking to get diamond stones from DMT for those.
Just arrived on my porch this morning... now for a stupid question- which stone is which?
This has been the worst drop I've been in since been on Massdrop... Like what is taking so long for this one... Kinda makes me worried about the quality
Typehazard
Sorry to hear that. Please don't let our fulfillment delay cloud your view of this product's quality or enjoyment of using it - I have a set of RY Preyda stones at home and use them to get a razor-sharp edge on my kitchen knives. We've learned to give RH Preyda some extra time to fulfill drops because they literally go to the quarry and cut stone from the earth to make these for each group order - sometimes they get a patch of rock that's not up to standards and have to go find another one. It's our fault for giving a delivery window that doesn't allow for this, and I apologize for that. I do hope you've been able to get some use and enjoyment from this since it finally arrived, but please do let us know if that's not the case and we'll try to make it right.
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Has anyone ever mounted these to Wicked Edge Plattens?
Has anyone used these for kitchen knives? And whats the proper way to clean and maintain these stones?
AndyJK
Not this set specifically, but I sharpen all my knives with Arkansas stones. Dish soap and water will clean the stones.
Some folks prefer to use the stones dry, others will use a handful of water on the stone while sharpening, and some prefer to use a thin coat of oil. If you use oil, use a food-safe mineral oil, since those are your kitchen knives. It will work fine. You may need to reflatten them eventually... but it will be years. Wouldn't worry too much about that unless they're noticeably bowled.
"Please note: Based on the estimated shipping date, domestic orders are NOT expected to arrive before December 25th." Can anyone confirm this is really going to take that long to arrive here in Germany?
LyricMaster
I think that is left over from Christmas and they forgot to remove it. The last drop just now got to people within the last week, and we ordered before Christmas.
Vili_R
Alright, thanks! I kinda thought so already. Found the same product for basically the same price on amazon so I ordered it from there though, simply cause if something's wrong with it (as others had stated) I wouldnt have to send it back to the States and wait another two months for a replacement.
Which stone would you use to sharpen a straight razor?
eduardomedina417
The Hard Black stone could be used for setting the initial bevel, but you would need some finer stones to finish the edge. The rest of the stones in this box would be too course for a razor. A straight razor would typically be finished on an 8 to 12K grit stone, before stopping on leather.
Will this drop have the same shipping issues as the last one?
We touched base with the vendor once more today about the group's order and they've informed us that these units are nearing completion now and should be shipped to our warehouse shortly. We will remain in close touch with them and update the group as soon as everything is on the way.
We understand that the additional wait time is undesirable. If you would prefer to cancel your order, please contact Community Support using the “Contact Support” button in your transactions page (http://massdrop.com/transactions).
You can expect an update from us on 1/12 or sooner if something comes up.
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We reached back out to the vendor again this week for another update on the group's order and, unfortunately, are still waiting to hear back about the latest status. We will continue to contact them and relay any new information we receive directly to the group.
You can expect an update from us on 1/4 or sooner if something comes up.
If you have any questions, please visit our Help Center (http://massdrop.com/helpcenter).
We've continued to coordinate with the vendor about the group's order and they've let us know that it's taken them slightly longer than expected to gather and prepare everything for shipment to our warehouse in New Jersey. Rest assured, we will remain in close contact with them and update the group as soon as everything is on the way.
Expect another update from us on 12/28 or sooner if something comes up.
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Awaiting confirmation! We are still in contact with the vendor and just awaiting updated shipment estimates from them. We have a call scheduled for early next week and should get a bit more visibility in regards to when we can expect these in our warehouse.
Expect another update from us on 12/22 or sooner if something comes up.
If you have any questions, please visit our Help Center (https://massdrop.com/helpcenter).
Just about there! We've been in touch with the vendor regarding the group's order and they've let us know that they are still working to gather and pack the group's order for shipment to our warehouse in New Jersey. We will continue to check in with them throughout the fulfillment process and update the group again as soon as everything is en route to us!
Expect another update from us on 12/16 or sooner if something comes up.
If you have any questions, please visit our Help Center (https://massdrop.com/helpcenter).
Thanks again for joining this drop! We have submitted the group's order with the vendor for the RH Preyda Deluxe Honing Kit and they are working hard to prepare it for shipment.
As soon as the group's order is ready at the vendor's location, they will send the bulk shipment to our warehouse in New Jersey where our warehouse team will break it up into individual orders and ship them. The current estimated ship date from our warehouse is 12/30.
We will keep the group updated throughout the fulfillment process. You can expect an update from us by the end of the day Pacific Time on 12/9.
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Can these be used to hone a straight razor?
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krayziehustler
The hard black stone can be used as an initial hone for a straight razor; it's exactly the same thing as the "surgical black" stone mentioned above (see here for more info: http://www.danswhetstone.com/stone_grades_101.htm). I used mine to touch up a straight razor I picked up from an antique store recently. You would not want to use anything other than the hard black stone from this kit on a razor...
Given the delicate nature of the blade, you want to be very gentle, pulling rather than pushing the blade. Since these aren't synthetic stones, you can get a finer and finer edge by gradually reducing the amount of pressure when honing. Finishing a razor, think of brushing dust away with a feather...
At any rate, I was able to shave with it when I was done. A strop would have been a nice addition, but it certainly wiped beard off my face.
Dermott
Link above is no longer valid, due to Dan's reorganizing their site. Looks like the current version of the page lives here: https://www.danswhetstone.com/information/stone-grades-101/
I've been honing razors on a hard black/surgical stone for about 8 months now, with good success. Having been using a good strop since Christmas, I'd now list that as "freaking necessary" instead of a "nice addition", but I think the above comment still stands.
Got mine last week. Everything in good condition and the stones are great. Got in touch with RH Preyda directly for clarification about the stones. The white/lightest is soft/coarse, the middle/speckled grey is medium, the dark grey is fine.
Really like it. Planning to install my own little hinges and a latch on the box so I can travel with the kit.
My experience is similar. The lid and box are both dirty and the box has a crack in it, it appears damaged and I'm not confident in the structure of the box. Everything inside appears fine and undamaged. I can also confirm the lid doesn't have any recesses or notches to lock into place, which wouldn't be a big deal and I could buy hinge hardware for it if it wasn't damaged. Pretty disappointed overall. :\
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Stefanie
I might return mine out of principal - Massdrop items are not rejects, scratch and dent
Stefanie
Hey Stefanie -- The vendor takes good care to send items in perfect condition, that looks like it happened during shipping but I couldn't say for sure of course.
What I do know for sure is that both Massdrop and RH Preyda want you to be 100% satisfied with your purchase, and we'd be happy to setup an exchange or refund if you file a support ticket by going to My Transactions in your member profile. Sorry about that, hope we can get it all sorted for you.
Also, great feedback on the boxes. The vendor is receptive to this kind of community input and I will make sure they know about both the condition of your item and the thoughts on box improvements. Thanks for letting us know so we can make it right.