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SMSL M3 USB DAC/Amp

SMSL M3 USB DAC/Amp

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Can this be used for just the DAC? I just purchased a DarkVoice 336 and I'm looking to get a DAC to pair with it for my HD700's. Any recommendations for sub $100, I'm sure a more expensive one will be a lot better but want to start low and work my way up. Any help would be appreciated , thanks.
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Thanks for the quick reply. Would this be a good deal or are there other dacs at/under $100 that would be a better fit?
BOB13Z
Unfortunately, I don't have a lot of experience with DACs other than what I have, which is not something offered on Massdrop. I'd hazard a guess that most sub$100 DACs are about the same, with perhaps some subtle differences. I'd prioritize an output that can be fed directly to your amp over what brand it is, but that's just me. Were it me, I would likely go with Massdrop's SDAC, https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-grace-design-standard-dac . The two main reasons being that it's in-stock and will ship much sooner, and because it's just a DAC, so you aren't spending money on an amplifier section you aren't going to use. The reviews for the SDAC are outstanding on top of that.
I bought one of these for my college student son, it shipped to him, but he can’t get it to work. SMSL website is effectively useless for troubleshooting and the DAC came without a manual. He has a Windows 10 laptop and an iPhone 6, and this DAC isn’t working with either of them. I’m 3,000 miles from the DAC so I do not have tactile possession of the device. Where do we go to figure this out?
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Thanks for the insight and tips. We never installed the M3 drivers at all, as the SMSL website has no driver to download specifically for the M3. There are drivers for all sorts of other Mproducts, but nothing for the M3. So the presence of M3 drivers should not be our issue.
dpj1
I just checked SMSL site and it doesn't show the M3 driver anymore - they probably figured out that this driver was faulty. I'll check out the M3 with another PC with Windows 10 and fiddle with it, maybe I'll have some insight that might help you.
seriously? a month to ship out when amazon has these on next day delivery?
I currently use an Oppo HA-2SE for my desktop setup (even though I also use it for portable use)
I have a pair of Fidelio X2's and Jubilee 58X's on the way. I am going to see any improvement or different sound signature by using this amp?
Would it complete well my SMSL SA-50 amp, and micca MB42X speakers?
Anyone know if the volume knob also controls the volume to the rear line outs?
Phoebe_P
It does not.
noobyzero
Excellent, thank you!
Micro USB... lol
Is this better than Fiio e10k amp/DAC?
kasmog
I wanna know this too
If I disconnect power to this and then reconnect it will it come on and return to the previous input?
Will this be better than Focusrite scarlett Solo v2?
gucio23
They don't really serve the same function - for pure listening, a DAC/Amp will be better suited. For tracking and recording, you're better off with the Scarlett since it has inputs for keyboards/mics/instruments, and outputs for monitors. If you already have the Scarlett and you're not sure if you need a DAC/Amp; do you have high impedance headphones that need something powerful driving them? Do you mostly use you interface to listen to music? If you answered yes to both and you have the money to spend, go for it. Otherwise you're better off with the Scarlett.
should i buy this for my he4xx?
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then what do u recommend on a budget scale
Etaghell
i tried the schiit fulla 2 they're pretty good for the price
I got this as a DAC for my MacBook Pro at work, and I use it with my Massdrop HD 6xx headphones, and they used to sound amazing. However, recently I've noticed that music I play is popping and clicking every 5-10 seconds, regardless of which application I'm using. I've tested using bluetooth headphones on my phone from the same streaming sources and it isn't the streaming that has the pops in them, it's the DAC that is giving me the pops and crackles. I have it set up as just the DAC/amp, so the only plug going into it is the micro-USB cable from the computer. Is this a power issue? Do I need to find a separate power supply for it? And if I do, what are the voltage input values? I really don't want to blow the thing up, and I'm disappointed enough in my new setup as it is. (I had a Bravo Audio Ocean tube amp coming out of the DAC, but the audio in the tube amp was louder in the left channel than the right regardless of input or type of headphones being used)
Will these be enough to power DT 1990 Pros or would the Topping A30 be a better option?
excalibruh
topping would be better
Will this power the DT 990 Pros?
Maka0
Yes, but it will mostly use the top half of your volume adjustment (assuming you have the 250 ohm version) if you have any lower ohm version then this amp will be more than enough
Maka0
This isn’t a studio powerhouse. It will power the low impedance DT880/990 just fine but the high impedance cans need a little more oomph. It’s worth it. The high impedance drops the noise floor to damn near inaudible.
Would this be an upgrade from a Fiio e10k?
p1necone
Yes, but marginly
Grados
The back outputs to connect up to powered speakers are a big plus for me, so if it sounds just as good I might have to get one.
Any info on the output impedance of these? How would it pair with sensitive IEM, such as the MD+?
Makita
To be honest I had a hard time finding out about this as well. For some odd reason the manufacturer didn't list its spec, but according to this site: https://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/amp/smsl-m3.php
It's listed as 0.06 Ohm so it should be able to use anything on it.
Is there anyone who may know final package box size (W x H x D) and weight of this product?
pinboy
amazon lists the product dimensions as such: 3.7 x 3 x 1.2 inches so it probably wont be much bigger
this or the Schiit Fulla 2?
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on my schiit fulla 2, powered with usb or phone charger sounds great on front interface, but rear outputs hiss so I just don't use them. tried it 2 ways: on powered speakers, and to output to another headphone amp using fulla as a dac only, but fulla made them hiss.
J_December_why
Sorry your having that. Schiit has great customer service. I'm sure they'd make it right for you.
Best, Jim
How well will these work with typical speakers? I have larger bookshelf style speakers I use for my setup and currently using a full size stereo receiver amp and wanna shrink the space down a little
Milkysaurus
Wrong type of amp. This is strictly a headphone amp. If you want a small amp to run speakers you can try a Topping MX 3 or if you are willing to Shell out the money a NAD D3020
Any Australians know what kind of power adapter this needs for dc power?
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Not sure if this would be of help, but I used to power this unit off a phone charger connected to wall socket, and had no issue. You will only need to use the "in DC" if you are gonna use the optical input (not sure about coaxial, I don't use it). My country's voltage is 220V, Australia's is 230V (given by my best friend Google), so I'm leaning more towards the "No issue" side. But hey, I'm no electrical engineer :)
For DC power no idea, But if you are using USB to power it your motherboard has a full circuit of amp/transistors i forget the other things names e.t.c. They set USB to the correct power they are designed for. Your only issue is if you plug multipul devices into into the same USB hub e.g. you have 4-6 usb 3.0 ports on your PC & 4 things plugged in, this will cause issues, usually for Dac/Amps it makes them quieter. Using that example & my Sennheiser GSX1000 & 3 other things plugged in its on 80 volume, with just the sennheiser its on 20-30 volume. Small other factors like laptop & low power settings also affect it. (I'm from New Zealand & the GSX1000 USB was purchased from USA if they helps ease your worrys).
had mine for over a year and no issues, sounds great! using it on my HIFIMAN HE4XX and Foxtex TH-00 Purplehearts.
Any update on the build quality of these? From the drop a year ago it looks like a lot of people got bad units that died within weeks, have those issues been resolved?
Xyniden
Since I've got mine, not from massdrop, I've never saw any problems.
This one or bravo v2 wich should i chose
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Loving the sound.
Got it and I managed to get my iPad to power it. If you have the apple camera connector dongle you can get it to work.
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Hoping mine arrives today. It's schedules by end of day but hasn't arrived yet. Really excited to try it out!
This is an amazing piece of audio equipment. Works really well with my AKG M220 and AKG K553 Pro's as well as my cyber acoustic speaker set, on the pre-amp, sounded really well and used for gaming, movies, and music. Well that was until it stopped producing sound from the amp side, still works out of the pre-amp only at the moment for some reason. Tried different cables and power sources but no good change, stopped accepting any kind of signal from anything. Will be contacting warranty services. Cannot seem to find the US site to contact them directly. Purchased 12-28-2016 arrived 1-14-17.
Have contacted owning company and their reply was: "Hi M, Good day. Please find Massdrop to solve this problem. Best Regards Kerwin Shenzhenaudio"
works and looks great. but volume knob works slightly unbalanced in 0 to 15 degree range.
It says an android phone can power it? i wonder if an iPhone would power it with the camera adapter cable?
I was a part of the last drop this dac sucks
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Yeah. Luckily Massdrop responded within a few hours and it seems like things are moving along.
memleek
As an update, Massdrop resolved this issue really quickly, so +1 to them and their customer support!