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SMSL Panda DAC and Headphone Amplifier Set

SMSL Panda DAC and Headphone Amplifier Set

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u can buy on amazon now for about 375 sanskit pro
Is this ever going to drop?
michaelj02
Amazon 375 Sanskrit pro look up each one individually I added them up little less thann$380
When Is this gonna drop again already???????
What was the price for this drop last time for the stack (all 3 unit)?
How often do drops get repeated?
i'd pick this up in a heartbeat if it dropped again
Can we have this drop again?
I was contacted by Support to see if I wanted a refund or replacement. I said that if I could be guaranteed a working unit (since there were so many issues with the drop), I would prefer a replacement. So I just got my replacement unit. Upon unpacking, it was obvious that this was not a new unit as the faceplates were scratched. I thought I would hook it up to see if it worked before deciding if I would send this one back - and it does not work! Same issue as before! Anyone have this resolved satisfactorily?
I own the DAC portion of this system. I think it is superb and would not hesitate to recommed picking this up if it suits your needs. The rest of the post is detail on my system and listening style so you can make your own conclusions.
I use the "cheapo" power supply supplied with the DAC and not the fancy separate one that is part of this drop. I put quotes around fancy because it's a better power supply than most device supplies. Anyway, I run it through a late 80's Denon receiver (MSRP $1200 in 1989). Bought used on ebay for $100. Super clean, super low THD amp in the receiver. Lots of power. Big, fancy caps, big transformer, nice power transistors, physically built in Japan. Then into 10 year old, but undamaged cones of Bose 301's bought new. It's a simple setup and the first standalone DAC I've ever heard. I'm partial to very clean electronica and trans-ambient techno. I have mild autism and am very sensitive to distorted sound. I also like simple low instrument count music tending to have a female singer - all miked well and mixed carefully and cleanly. Favorite album of all time is Switched on Bach by Wendy Carlos if this helps to gage my concern with clean sound.
This DAC is spectacular. It is exceptionally clear using either speakers or headphones (Audio Technica ATH-M50x). I can't convey just how clean and technically perfect the sound is. You can also turn up volumes to levels far beyond what is safe or even tolerable and nothing - no distortion, no weird edges to the sound, no clipping. I can stand outside my front door and go for max on the amp using the remote, and nothing. Just loud, but as clean as low levels. The sound just goes up to insane levels and sounds just as clean. I've never heard anything like it. At normal or low or very low levels the sound is wonderful. From what I've read, DAC's generally sound a bit "deficient" at the very low end. I don't want to get in an argument with people about how that's not the case with their system, that's just what I've surmised. Maybe I'm wrong. Whatever.
I suspect most devices like tape decks, CD players and such introduce a touch of low end amplification before the signal even gets to the receiver or preamp. It's well known that when you want to sell a particular stereo at a store, push up the low end on that system using an equalizer but don't tell the customer. People always fall for low end boost. But standalone DAC's don't do that. That's the whole point. Flat as can be, no THD, no crosstalk, so it's up to you to modify the signal in your system after the DAC or using playback software if possible if that's what you want. My system isn't built for BASS. That said, now I have super clean sound, I'll be buying a lower end ($200), but decent, powered, tight subwoofer to pick up the slack at the low end.
I'm sad more people aren't picking this drop up. If I needed the headphone amp, I would. It is solid as a rock. The drivers work on win 7 pro. It generates very little heat. It's small. Very pretty. Simple. So far, I like SMSL stuff so much I just got the M8 for our bedroom setup. I wanted to hear the difference, needed another DAC, and massdrop had it available. I should point out the Panda DAC chip was specifically designed for subjective sound quality, not objective specs. That's what the advertising literature goes to great lengths to say. I believe it after hearing it. The specs are great, but other chips are somewhat better. But according to the chip manufacturer, the Panda DAC was made to sound good, not win a spec sheet battle.
The only thing I wish was different about my setup is that I had the high end power supply that comes with this drop.
I've got the same problem. Wired for 240V. Blinking light. Also, the DAC has a loose piece in it. Rattles if moved around. I can't believe this.
Has anyone else filled a report with mass drop?
bjw
i sent them a note this morning including a link to this thread.
So I just received mine today and it doesn't work, They sent me the AC190V-240V input?? There was never an option to send the 120V, I just assumed that there wasn't one that they would send the US version. Nice $530 wasted
**EDIT**
Not sure what the issue is actually but here is a video of it
http://puu.sh/ofUAV/48ccc10312.m4v
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bjw
ugh, thanks! good to know... that's the same price as Amazon... will get it from Amazon then. I read a professional review that said M8 jumps to the next level in sound quality with LPS P1.
This brand is on here a lot. I have never used their products, but I have seen the mfg's website. The broken English, unreadable tables full of glyphs, semi-functioning navigation, and large swaths of incomplete template website gibberish do not inspire confidence. The fact that they do not have an address in the US or a phone number of any kind listed on the website would give me pause before spending this kind of money. Is this brand basing its prices on the cost of doing business with customer support, or have they simply caught the scent of a market where people will pay a lot of money for a piece of anodized aluminum if it is accompanied by some numbers?
Given the bait and switch practices of many Asian manufacturers, I would only trust specs that have been independently verified. That may come off as xenophobic, but I am speaking from personal experience dealing with vendors as an industrial designer. I blatantly distrust the value proposition of SMSL's msrp.
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Thank you, I appreciate the compliment. Have a nice day :)
smallmachine
For what it's worth, I purchased a VMV (SMSL) D1 DAC for ~$1300 (US) a couple of weeks ago. The DAC after broke the first day's use. I contacted the Chinese seller (SHENZENAUDIO) and... 1. They were very responsive to email 2. After a short Q and A session SHENZENAUDIO paid the shipping ($133) to have the faulty item shipped to their US address. 3. A brand new product was at my door step less than a week (shipped from China) after I shipped the faulty product back (so far so good on the replacement product).
My experience was a good one.... or service that one would expect. I would purchase products like this again given this experience. By the way, shipping was FREE and the manufacturer uses DHL Express service.
Ours just shipped from the last drop and haven't arrived yet. Will post impressions once it gets here. I'm hoping it can drive low impedance decently well.
Thinking of getting this one or wait for another drop of the Grace Design M9XX? Inputs are much appreciated
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I'm sure this Panda set has the power I need but this setup will be much higher and bigger in my desktop than the Grace Design. Lucky me, the M9XX is back on the drop :)
I live in Southeast Asia and but not from a Chinese-speaking language country and I took my bachelor in the US so ordering from MD is easier task forme.
I am currently using the FiiO E10K for my AKG. It's running fine albeit having to use higher volume for the right listening experience in driving the K7XX. I need a DAC/AMP with multiple inputs and line-outs for my desktop setup. I'll use the E10K for my office laptop when I get the desktop setup that I want. Appreciate so much for the input, feeling the community help in MD even though that may mean spending more of my salary in the site hahaa *thumb* :)
The vendor informed us that the group's order was picked up and is on its way to our warehouse. Based on the tracking provided, the order is scheduled to arrive 4/6.
Sometimes shipments get delayed en route, but we will keep the group updated throughout the fulfillment process and notify you all if anything causes delay.
Thank you for your patience. Expect an update from us on 4/8 or sooner if something comes up.
If you have any questions, please visit our Help Center (massdrop.com/helpcenter).
**EDIT: Pushing Date Out
Our vendor has informed us that inventory will become available to them within the next few days. They will be working hard to prepare this order for shipment and aim to send it from their location by the beginning of next week. We are currently trending for everything to be shipped out of our warehouse before the estimated ship date of 4/6.
Expect an update from us by the end of the day Pacific Time on 3/31 or sooner if something comes up.
Thanks again for joining this drop! We have submitted the group's order with the vendor for the SMSL Panda DAC and Headphone Amplifier Set and they are working hard to prepare it for shipment.
As soon as the group's order is ready at the vendor's location, they will send the bulk shipment to our warehouse in New Jersey where our warehouse team will break it up into individual orders and ship them. The current estimated ship date from our warehouse is 4/6.
We will keep the group updated throughout the fulfillment process. You can expect an update from us by the end of the day Pacific Time on 3/24.
If you have any questions, please visit our Help Center (massdrop.com/helpcenter).
Do I get this for free because my last name is Panda?
Well, it happened. The Amazon prices dropped. For all three items, it's currently $510.36, plus two of them are compatible with Prime. With the $515.49 it costs on Massdrop right now, it's currently $5.13 cheaper on Amazon.
BetaWolf
don't forget to add the cables
I know what you're saying man. I do. Frankly there are a lot of other products out there already with lots of reviews that would sound just as good for a similar price. I don't see the advantage here other than the amazing aesthetic.
The specs only list DSD 64 & 128, but then DSD 11.2 MHz is listed for the converter. Doesn't 11.2MHz equate to DSD 256?
As for the volume control - this one feature pretty much kills my desire to own this set. As if it wasn't bad enough that the volume is controlled by two buttons, they had to go and place them immediately above/below the power button!
I'm having some trouble finding any real reviews for this set. Can anybody help point me in the right direction?
ItsApocalypseNow
I've pretty much only found user reviews in my search a month ago on the DAC... these are fairly new from what I found.
ItsApocalypseNow
dude it has it's own power supply, the dac is darn good and i doubt they could mess the amp up bad. I bet it sounds really good.
So can I connect good old SPEAKERS to these? Via the L/R plugs?
iam_waffle
you can use it as a preamp for either powered speakers or an amplifier that then powers the speakers. This will power headphones directly but not passive speakers.
I ordered all three from amazon because... waiting sucks. I will no way have the review out in 5 days but before the next drop if there is one.
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A week or less. I have a few lined up that sucks because I didn't expect this drop to happen so soon.
ZeosPantera
Guess I'll have to become a patron now. FeelsGoodMan
how does this stack up against the grace design drop.
I recently took a risk, as there's very little in the way of reviews, and purchased the SMSL DAC and Linear Power Supply, from another wesite) for my home Hifi system and its truly breathtaking for the price. I previously used an Arcam DAC which was great but nothing in comparison to this. Massdrop is selling all three components for less than I paid for the two I bought. I don't listen to headphones, but if I did, this is an amazing deal.
I just started looking at the DAC and LPS about a month ago and wondered if this set would end up on here. Don't really need the amp and as an earlier poster pointed out, it is roughly the same price on a different website. They were more expensive in the last 30 days so that may be a response to this drop. I've noticed a trend over there where they try to best or roughly meet the deals here and then everything goes back to "normal" once the drop here is over. I however went a different route and ordered a SMSL x-usb to work around my DAC's rather crappy usb implementation.
Warranty length?
I have a placer for these but I may have to drop out of this due to some medical bills that I just rounded up yesterday .....
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I sent a detailed request with all the troubleshooting I had done and video of the issue. Plus I did this before I said anything on here about the issue and it seems that there may be others with the same issue so I might have gotten mine in first. Or just luck
bjw
Damn. Well, if I click on my ticket number within the email, it asks me to login, but won't accept my password, so I can't even check the status of the request right now. That's got me a bit on edge, what with how much this thing cost.