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SMSL SU-8 DAC & SH-8 Headphone Amp

SMSL SU-8 DAC & SH-8 Headphone Amp

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Can't the Chinese just make a black version of this?
Can anyone share a link which has step by step information on how to setup dsd/1bit audio on a windows 10 laptop. I could not find the product manual for this model.
SH-8 vs D30; SH-8 vs A30?
So...can i connect the rca out directly to my av receiver input.....or do i need a headphone amp in between the 2?..
Toshu
You can go straight from the DAC to the receiver with RCA, the receiver can then become the headphone amp
I know this is half as much, but how does it compare to the dx7s in terms of noise and sound quality? Last time I checked, they both have drops rn...
mechcentric
In terms of noise look up audio science reviews.
Z0d1Ac
Yeah I compared them on that. It's just like they perform about what they're worth relative to each other.
I just received my SH-8. It's a nice amp, but it has some issues. The volume wheel is almost flush and not really usable, I mainly use the remote to adjust volume. Also my unit is randomly increasing and decreasing volume to min or max, without touching the wheel or remote.
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I ordered a pair of these to connect it to the SU-8. 2000s E02100P2 XLR Male to Female 0.5 Feet Microphone Cable (2 Pack)
Muddy_MuD
So picked up the amp to pair with the SU8. Balanced setup, all good, no issues, very happy with the sound. Certain types of music sound much better than the Su8 paired with a Magni 3. Queens of the Stone Age felt pretty flat previously and now feels more vibrant and energised. Much more enjoyable. Pretty happy so far.
I have the SU-8, very happy with it, no issues at all. Intrigued by the amp and trying out a balanced set up. Can’t find any information/opinions or reviews on it though. Has anyone tried it, or have any opinion on its specs? Is balanced worth trying? My main headphones are the hd6xx paired with a magni 3/SU-8
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Having bought both amp and dac, no idea what that impedance recommendation was founded on- plenty of power with hd6xx
nmcd83
Good to know. New products always need test subjects for QA.
anyone wants to discuss why you should pay for balanced output? it's a DAC. There is very short connection to amp, so no interference/noise issues will be solved. It is DAC and should output nominal 2V via RCA, so no power issues should be solved with balanced output either. So why then? You, audiophiles, have to think, at least a little before reaching for that wallet.
bravomail
Well, the main reasons tend to be noise and interference rejection that may be induced . And at the end of the day, any properly balanced circuit design will outperform an equivalent SE setup. Although it's up to you to discern if the difference is audible enough for you to care to go down this path. A well desidned amp like the THX 789 already sounds amazing and has incredibly low distortion for SE. Balanced in this case will yield more voltage and control for headphones and DACs (that need more than 2V) and "theoretically" reject any potential noise that could be picked up. The length of the connection doesn't matter (unless over 5m) in this scenario as we are trying to potentially mitigate or eliminate any added noise from other places in the chain.
jaydunndiddit
I just told there no noise or power benefit. Yet u stick to old mantra. :)
What's the output impedance of the amp?
does the rca and xlr on the dac outputs audio at the same time? or individual exclusive?
over_50_percent
If you wanted, you could use balanced and unbalanced outputs simultaneously. For example, balanced XLR speakers and unbalanced RCA for a sub.
How come I don't see this model on the SMSL web site? Is it discontinued or is it so new??
What is the output imp of the SH-8? Why wouldn't this be listed?
From the picture looks like the SH-8 amp has the wrong gender XLR input. I would like to buy the combo but if there is such a general mistake what does it say about the overall build?
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Pyce
The Amazon images for the SH-8 show the correct input xlr gender so I think the pictures maybe just initial mock-ups?
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DPS6000
Shenzhenaudio is the seller on Amazon and they're the only seller with the correct pictures on Ali. All other sellers are still using the wrong images.
Is the balanced output corrected by SMSL now on this model (output stage saturation)? https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-smsl-su-8-dac.3778/
Hello, is anyone using this dac with Linux? Fedora to be exact. Do you have any issues with it or is it plug and play? Thank you in advance.
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I recommend using the optical input if you can
Arsedestroyer
I was thinking connecting it via USB because my motherboard doesn't have an optical output.
When I change it's sample rate, It makes explosive noise and Protection Mode of My amp is activated. SMSL should support the new firmware.
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kangsik
OK... The problem occurs when I connected amplifier with XLR cables. there is no problem with RCA connection.
kangsik
The playback software on your computer should be able to handle this; for example, Audirvana has a setting that will eliminate the pop when a different sampling rate is encountered--others do as well, but do your homework. This issue is universal and not confined to just this product.
Get this or a R2R DAC for pairing with a Darkvoice tube amp?
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yep get Grace Design SDAC and Objective Amp. I had mixed experiences with SML. Some are good. Others not so much. Don't be a beta tester. There is audiosciencereview website which does a lot of measurements, and Grace SDAC measured quite good. Other folks there seem to like Objective Amp very much.
bravomail
Actually I prefer the sound of the SMSL to the SDAC. Putting my SDAC up for sale.
What is the total shipping time? 98101 Seattle
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What does the estimated shipping date mean? If it Oct 31st, then when will it be reaching me. Any idea?
hardik
Between Nov 7 and Nov 10 is what I would say based on my experience if it is coming out of their warehouse (I live in Snohomish county not that far from Redmond). Massdrop do not have an expedited shipping option - one size fits all approach.
Does this dac output pops on turnon and/or turnoff?
rajapruk
I've had it for almost a month. No pops observed.
Guess there wasn’t enough room left in there to fit a decent AMP?!
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Might work out for you in the future, you never know...
RayF
I feel sarcasm :)
Anyone try adding this to your Harmony or Universal remote?
q2klepto
Yes. Harmony has to learn it - nothing pre-programed.
I already have a PS Audio Sprout100, do you think my rig would benefit from having this as a dedicated DAC while maintaining the Sprout100 as amplification?
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freesole
i wouldnt add it to a sprout.
freesole
If anything, the Sprout100 may have even better implementation, regardless of the actual DAC chip used.
I have had the SU 8 running between Marantz CD8005 and Shitt Vidar to Tannoy XT8F for 3 weeks. Brittle to start with, regardless of PCM filter etc. To the point that I nearly returned it. Into the 4th week now, and its getting sweeter by the day. Powered up 24/7.
Russ1664
Wonder if its your ears adjusting or if the dac is actually changing
No warranty info?
I have severe problems deciding between this dac and the balanced Grace SDAC: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-grace-design-standard-dac-balanced Anyone compared the SMSL SU-8 compared to the Grace SDAC in real life?
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agree. Now if u want to save a power outlet - u can go with USB only DAC (Sabaj Da2 for example). Or if u have extra 20 - u can get Schiit Modi 3 to get optical and coax. All 3 DACs measured good on audiosciencereview.
bravomail
My Grace Design SDAC does not have a power supply, USB power only.
As soon as I arrived I confirmed the operation of SU-8 and found one major problem. When you switch songs, the beginning of the song may behave like a fade in. The time is about 0.5 seconds to 1 second. Therefore, the first head part of the song may not be played. This event will occur in the following cases.
1, when switching to a song with a different bit rate. feg. 48 kHz >> 96 kHz >> 44.1 kHz >> 192 kHz >> 88.2 kHz
2. When switching to a song of a different format. feg. PCM >> DSD >> PCM >> DSD
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u both should be tortured for setting 220v in US.
bravomail
It came that way set to 220v out of the box.
The dac sounds great, but there is a high pitch audible noise when its on... coming from the dac itself, not the line... anyone else experiencing this?
zep483
nope
damien_chung
Dang Ok, thanks, I've emailed customer support but no response on this yet...
This DAC is awesome!!, idk what the pcm filter does tho
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damien_chung
Is the white object for keeping the cables from touching?
Toshu
Its just the design of the xlr cable to identify left and right
how does this compare to the chord mojo
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favorably. at least u don't have to pay to exchange the batteries... :D
that's what I keep hearing. On any comparison Mojo wins. But who would buy it at such a ridiculous price and then pay to replace batteries each year?
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. I received my S.M.S.L SU-8 today and it sounds great! This is my set up.