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V60 Matias Mini Keyboard

V60 Matias Mini Keyboard

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(UPDATED 2018-07-17: Would no longer recommend. See reply.) Only just got to try this out, some months after the drop (my parents brought it to me on a trip, since I live in Thailand and don’t order things here because the import duties are insane).

It’s currently my second-favorite keyboard, after the HHKB Type S that I use as my daily driver. In some ways, I even like it better: the Matias Linear switches feel more responsive, like they actuate higher up the keypress than the Topre 45g switches in the HHKB. I like the light key-feel, and the keyboard is very quiet compared to my Matias Tactile Pro (with the clicky tactile Matias switches). The dip-switches give some good layout options, and with a bit of work in Karabiner, it’s very much like the HHKB now. Also works with a USB adapter on my iPad, which the HHKB doesn’t.

If I have a gripe with this, it’s that some of the keys are a bit squeaky and rattly. The space bar is squeaky, and right shift rattles. Not sure if this is something to do with the stabilizers. I also miss my usual PBT keycaps—my fingers feel sweaty typing on this now. Good value, though, at the USD 89.99 I paid for it, ex. shipping. Would recommend as a way to try Matias Linear switches.
benhourigan
UPDATE. After testing the keyboard for a few days, I discovered that at least one key (semicolon) registers multiple keypresses. I tried to resolve this issue with KBParadise support and could not, to my satisfaction. I’d therefore not recommend this board, and possibly not recommend KBParadise generally, until they change their policies relating to defective keyboards.

KBParadise support asked me to try a firmware upgrade, but the utility they provided reported an error (“could not connect to chip”). Their remedies suggested were:

- Solder new switches (provided by them) into board (not acceptable as I don’t know how to solder and don’t have the equipment; also doesn’t really make sense for a non-kit product)
- Send board back to them at my expense (with palm rest or keychain offered as compensation)

Neither of these are acceptable to me, particularly as I would lose more money (in time lost) in doing these as I have spent on the keyboard. Returning the keyboard to me in Thailand (for example) would likely also incur further costs in customs duties, because of the unfortunate import-tax regime here.

It’s a disappointing outcome, as I really like the keyboard, but it ought to have worked first time, or have been replaced if defective with minimal work and expense on my part.
bad reviews and no warranty, i'll be sitting this one out
Is it bluetooth?
Napsterpepper
Nope. Wired only.
I bought a Matias Tactile Mini (tkl version w/ clicky matias swtiches) a few months ago, and it really didn't feel too nice because the switches were too scratchy. (And yes, they were the clicky matias switches, but they definitely could have been made smoother). Also, there was waaaaaay too much key wobble! I know that alps switches naturally have key wobble, but I know this was a problem with QC because I also ordered a Matias Tactile Pro before and it had nowhere near the key wobble on my Matias Mini Tactile Pro. Then there was the issue with support and the ability to contact with Matias Corporation. They never answered my phone and emails, which were the only means of communication with them.

Now, I don't really know how anyone's experience with this board would be, but I hope you consider this before buying.
i was already to go on a rant saying how is this board any different from a poker3. ..until i looked again at does Matias switches..alas i don't have the best of luck with Matias switches..the only chance i had to try them was on a "Matias Ergo Pro" for a week.. and they felt awful to me.. But he that's just me..this board does look sexy the only question i would have is "is it programmable" my number one rule with 60% or less board is fully 100% programmable and compatibility with opensource firmware like QMK... so i'm not talking layering like the poker3 does..
But it is not orthogonal ... :/
Myspacebarhasstoppedworkingcompletely.
veryupset
Hey mine, is kind of over accomplishing...:/ As u can see.
Did you try to fix it? I thought I put a stronger spring in so the space bar is faster on the up stroke, but the cherry spring don't fit.
Apart from the strange spacebar, I do like the keyboard overall. The matias switches are really nice.
veryupset
Hi,
is your board working again?
So red around and found that it is kind of a common issue with the Matias switches. Many report that it is getting better over time.
Here is guide for fixing it: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5wv5ec/guide_fixing_matiasalps_keychatter_yourself/
Did not try my self so far, but hope that this works out.
I wish more people made boards with matias because the qc seems do be really weird with these boards
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Thanks for the fast answer. Ok will try my luck. I see what u mean like the contact leaf is on the other side... Will see how this works out.
Did you solve the bending problem of your space-bar?
Tobiasw
yup its the contact leaf I have no idea about the space bar I think it might how tight it holds on to the stems
Case in the pictures looks different from those in the review videos. Did they swap it to a Poker 3 case for the photo or it comes with a different case now?
rubycrow
sorry , I think Massdrop fit V60 Matias board on a Poker case. So wrong photo made.
You may refer the bottom pics which is correct V60 case
Which of these switches feels the most like complicated alps? I want a ridiculously tactile experience, not worried about sounds, so far I am comparing the matias - click, the fukka, and xm? Any thoughts? I want the keycap to pop through like it is nobodies business..
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How would you compare the datacomps to the matias clicky?
MechEng
They feel really similar to me. The Datacomps feel slightly less tactile and a tad lighter, but they should be a bit heavier according to their specs.

http://www.datacomp.com.tw/ShowProducts.asp?id=245
http://matias.ca/switches/click/
Bad layout (compared to Pok3r), not programmable. I always wonder why this keyboard is so popular around here.
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Soundtoxin
it's only popular because it's one of the only 60% models with matias switches rather than mx shit
gayretarr
That's definitely the best reasoning I've heard, but I don't always hear people saying they're getting the Matias switch version.