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Apr 25, 2024
I'm enjoying the Schiit out of my Jotunheim, thanks.
Have to tell you, I'm not the kind who's easily influenced by reviews, measurements or comments from MDroppers. Perhaps if you had loaned me both copies of the units you question vs recommend--and an A/B switch, I might have seen you're point. Absent that, I'm inclined to go with my ears, over a chart.
You're entitled to your opinion, of course, but the first dozen comments I read on the last DX7 drop weren't exactly stellar (you don't work for them do you?).
One thing I do care about is recourse with the manufacturer--Schiit lives here. I don't want deal with a Chinese website (or manual), when I have questions or need support--not for the dough we pay for these things. Second point--I'm a Mac user, so I'm a big supporter of items produced by mfgs who get "plug and play." Schiit seems too. Ya' feel me?
"Drivers? We-don-need-no-estink'n-drivers!
DX7: Remote, digital readout, additional digital inputs (other than Jot's single USB-B)
Jot: Much better output impedance, massively more amp power, more analog inputs (and balanced XLR on top of that)
Both will do well for different needs, I personally think the Jotunheim is the better unit, though more expensive.
For me I needed the extra inputs the Jotunheim offers, and being a desktop system I don't need a remote. I do have a Topping D10 on the way that I was originally going to put head to head with a Schiit Modi 2 Uber, but then decided to go with the Jot as the all in one option.
I'll be making a similar setup to my current one for a buddy here soon using that Topping D10, and a Schiit SYS I have sitting here outputting to another pair of JBL LSR305's.
Measurements don't mean everything either for what it's worth. Topping notoriously measures well but that doesn't mean they perform as well in real world scenarios. You get what you pay for in the end.
I'll pick up a DX7 and see what the difference is sound wise, but I'd be willing to bet they are extremely similar performing. Maybe run it and the Jot through the SYS as my A/B toggle.
I would venture that the two do perform similarly in real world scenarios. But then the DX7 has the added features + remote. before I had a DX7 I had the modi multibit, SMSL M8 and Topping D30. I bought the D30 after having a Fulla2. But the Fulla2 sounded narrow and had a click / pop sound frequently which my Fiio K1 didn't have.... The D30 into the Fulla2 sounded much better and then an A30 sounded even better... (but the Fulla 2 driving the A30 sounded worse). modi multibit had the same problem as the Fulla2 and actually it seemed to lack even more detail. At this point in time I was extra confused after reading racing testimonials... Bought the M8 and later the M8a and couldn't tell much of a difference between the D30 and M8. So when the DX7 dropped I saw a sale on ebay and picked it up and haven't looked back.
Fast forward 9 months and all these measurements come out.... And the Schiit products have measured poorly so far, so I think there will be an audible difference in the case of most Schiit products. I am now waiting on measurements of the Jot, since that's something I originally wanted to buy before I had issues with Schiit overall.
I just went to buy a DX7 just now and it appears it's sold out everywhere and is also $500? I thought it was closer to $300 when it dropped?
The two measure quite close to each other, with the DX7S and the DX7 trading blows in different tests IIRC. Check the reivew https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-topping-dx7s-dac-and-headphone-amp.2378/ https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/topping-dx7-dac-headphone-amplifier-review-and-measurements.2286/ ^Those are both the reviews
If you go to the "home" page and you go through the feed there, you can see most if not all the reviews done over the last months :)
For my personal setup the DX7 doesn't have the inputs I am looking for anyways. It would save me from using a separate cheapo basic $40 DAC that I am currently using to convert the PS4's toslink to RCA, however the lack of any stereo analog inputs would require me to convert my turntables signal and thats not worth it.
To me I'd rather tamper with the PS4's signal than my turntable's signal.
So I have a box of various size cables and types of cables, and another box of connectors and adapters. RCA->3.5mm, 3.5MM -> Mono RCA, RCA->XLR, XLR Single -> RCA Single, 3.5mm->6.35mm, 6.35mm->3.5mm, 6.35mm->XLR..
My daily stack is DX7->A30->O2, this is just so that I can have 2 headphones connected without having to swap the DX7 out of DAC-only mode and the O2 is for low impedance headphones that also have impedance response swings which are actually audible. Daily Headphones are mrspeakers Aeon Closed, or Oppo PM-2 w/ PM-1 Pads. Also have Denon AH-MM400, Panasonic RP-HD10, 1More Quad & Triple & Dual drivers, Yamaha YH-2, had the Denon D7200.
I've bought too much stuff imho, and really reselling it is hard. I mailed a bunch of stuff to Amir @ ASR to test as he has time, since I don't really use it much (only for audio meet ups).