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TEAC AI-101DA Integrated Amplifier with USB DAC

TEAC AI-101DA Integrated Amplifier with USB DAC

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I am very interested in this DAC, especially after watching the review by zreviews on youtube. I think I'm going to pass on purchasing this particular item, it seems everywhere I go everyone is complaining about the same issue which is the volume issue. Shame it looks like a nice unit.
David00
It really is too bad. When it was working it was great... But then it.... Stopped working..
I bought this amp the last time it dropped. My amp works great. (Knock on wood) It sounds great with a small pair of Paradigm speakers.
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I submitted a ticket on their website and they never responded. I gave them a call, and the guy said he'd call me back (I never heard back from them). So... I don't think they're too worried about it. lol.
Bradum
I bought some excellent high end audiophile products from Teac back in the 70's and 80's. I had a reel to reel tape deck that worked flawlessly for 25 years and the company was always forward thinking about customer service . It's a shame they are just another faceless company now.
Just came here to say that I'm having the same volume issues that everyone else is having (volume randomly shoots to full blast, or jumps all over the place). Best just to avoid it unless you're able to replace the pointometer yourself.
Edit: Why have 9 people purchased this? It is a product that is known to be faulty, and it comes with no warranty.
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Sorry should've clarified-headphones up to 300 ohms. I'd prefer a single unit over a Schiit Magni/Modi combo. Thanks.
Oddfellow
The TEAC is more of a speaker amp than a headphone amp. Even the Shiit Fulla 2 would probably be better than these for headphones, but if you can afford it the Magni/Modi combo would be much better.
Does anyone know if this works with a 220V power source? Also, is there an option to just get them without the speakers?
My TEAC AI-101DA doesn't work. The left channel cuts out and distorts. I confirmed it with multiple sources. This is not the remote vs panel knob problem others complain about. The unit is just defective.
Has anyone figured out how to set the power on/off switch to just ON, without the Standby function enabled? I've tried pressing the "Setting" button but the amp still shuts off on its own. The instructions are not helpful.
trog69
You wish there was a way.
Will I able to use this as a stand alone DAC hooked up to another headphone amp?
EinWithShades
Only if you're OK with using the headphone jack as an output...
RationalRampage
If you use the headphone jack as an output, then you're not bypassing the amp. There is no preamp out.
Weak speaker amp. Great for headphones and powered monitors.
TragestyX
It always depends on your needs. I prefer a weaker amp (also less expensive) for the size room and the needs I have. I also like all the accessories and options this amp has, such as Bluetooth and the fact I can run, speakers and headphones. Perfect for a small set @ work.
TragestyX
Yes, for a regular room it is a bit underpowered. But for near-field, or with high-efficiency speakers like the Klipsch models, it's plenty of juice. I have it powering a pair of Klipsch RP-160m's in near-field on this desktop,and an SVS PB-2000 sub and it works perfectly with enough output to melt your face off.
is the Dac powered by USB Or the wall plug?
dabbaranks
It is powered by wall plug
Just received it today. Drives my SVS Ultra's to perfection.
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The amp/preamp is quite nice. The only thing I would add is that TEAC is terrible on warranty issues. I have a CR-H101 as well, and the CD player did not work out of the box. The service center people ordered the part last September. TEAC said it might take 90 days. It's been 150 and still no part. The service center people told me this is very common with TEAC.
I have the AI-101 model and I also have it powering a pair of the 160m's in near-field and an SVS PB-2000 sub and I have a dilemma; I plan on going with an Emotiva pre-amp/amp pairing and I worry that it won't sound that much better than the TEAC! Lots of headroom but will they actually sound better? I sure hope so; I have the pre-amp arriving today. heh
All of these wattage ratings are bullshit. You see how it says 4ohm? That means only 13w at 8ohm. Then it say 1khz. That means they only used one frequency to test instead of the entire range. Them it says 10% THD. That means it's close to clipping at those 13w. To put this in perspective, my Marantz 2226B is 26wpc 8ohm, 20h-20khz, THD .1%, for a full fucking hour! Not only did they give you honest numbers but, they went beyond and required them to sustain this wattage for an hour. It pisses me off that they are so dishonest. People look at it and say, oh great, 26wpc is enough gor me. Then they find out it's more like 8wpc. It's nice looking and convenient but, it's feels scammy and cheap to me.
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Because the end result, as you've calculated with clipping at 13w, is apparently bullshit. I say apparently because I don't have one either to say for sure. A vs D. Apples vs Oranges. Patriots vs Argonauts. Coltrane vs Karl Denson.
If you've got one and want to tell me how it compares to the Marantz, I'd appreciate that. Otherwise I don't.
scope
Yes, I'll tell you how it compares. They are both audio amplifiers. It's not apples and oranges. It amps and amps. The rating is extreemly obviously dishonest. Rating ar 4ohms is dishonest. Rating at a high THD is dishonest. Claiming 26wpc is dishonest. I'm not saying that no one can use and enjoy this product. I'm saying it is a prime example of spec padding and why people think vintage gear is inherently superior. Less impressive or not, I appreciate honest measurements.
Is the TEAC in any way an upgrade over the SMSL AD 18? Anyone have experience with both?
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All of these wattage ratings are bullshit. You see how it says 4ohm? That means only 13w at 8ohm. Then it say 1khz. That means they only used one frequency to test instead of the entire range. Them it says 10% THD. That means it's close to clipping at those 13w. To put this in perspective, my Marantz 2226B is 26wpc 8ohm, 20h-20khz, THD .1%, for a full fucking hour! Not only did they give you honest numbers but, they went beyond and required them to sustain this wattage for an hour. It pisses me off that they are so dishonest. People look at it and say, oh great, 26wpc is enough gor me. Then they find out it's more like 8wpc. It's nice looking and convenient but, it's feels scammy and cheap to me.
BelialApollyon
Well I kept the SMSL AD18 - Amazon gave me a $20 credit, and I bought the proper cable (NEMA 5-15P to C5) for $2.33. Path of least resistance and all that jazz :-) As is, the SMSL amp provides more than enough power to my Pioneer TS-X200 speakers.
I've been happy enough with all of the China-sourced audio gear I've picked up over the last few years by FiiO, OSTRY, XDuoo and now SMSL. Though XDuoo seems the most overpriced comparatively.
I just set up this unit, currently using bluetooth off a chromebook. It sounds good considering the source. The numbering on my volume knob is backwards, as the volume goes up, turning right, the numbers on the dial turn lower using the 12 o'clock dot as a fixed point. Does anyone else have this issue? Are these units seconds?
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It's industry standard. Every A/V receiver I've ever owned is labeled this way.
pb239
If you look at the legend, it says the scale is in NEGATIVE decibels, which means as the number gets lower, the value gets higher (e.g. -8 is a larger number than -25).
shame I had too much doubt about voltage of this unit to join it as really wanted to tidy up my desktop with an all in one. Then I read about the other issues with volume etc by others on here and just could not bring myself to join up. Will just have to wait gor a good quality all in one desktop DAC, speaker and headphone amp.
PerthJM
I can only say that I love this TEAC amp/DAC. My system is in near-field on this desktop, and I had various speakers being powered by it, sufficient for enjoyable listening. Now, with a pair of high-efficiency Klipsch 160m's and an SVS PB-2000 sub, the sound is incredible. Waaaay more juice than needed, and that's long before any clipping or distortion occurs.
If you have hard-to-drive speakers/headphones you might want to do as I'm doing and get an Emotiva pt-100 pre-amp and either the a-100 Flex amp ( possibly the most powerful headphone amp, and certainly the most powerful at $230, as they supply jumpers you can easily apply to the headphone output stage, which then allow ALL 50 watts to output to your headphones. My HD6XX's would fare just fine, but 320hm 'phones would blow up if you weren't careful with the volume knob.) or the A-300, 150w/ch., 2-channel amp.
PerthJM
Yep. I'm having the same issues with the volume dial.
my 1.5y old unit just started making spurious volume changes. Does anybody else have this problem?
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is your problem that it'll randomly get really loud? because if you just wiggle the potentiometer (volume knob) it'll go back to normal.
eric_the_red
That worked fine for me at first, but the issue kept getting worse and worse. And it'll be a big problem for anyone with low impedance headphones as it could possibly ruin them.
Will these push the 6 XX?
Aljamere7
Absolutely, I have hd-600, hd-800, TH-x00 PH and it drives them all well.
Any improvements on the USB lag? I primarily game on the PC and any sound lag would be a deal breaker for me. I heard you can use optical out instead to eliminate the lag? How's this work with games and surround software? Thanks.
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Donivan
optical works perfectly fine esp with windows 10 dolby atmos or windows sonic
Donivan
dude,get ur self a gaming set, this is for music listening..
Hi All. Hope someone can assist as I really want to join the drop for this one. However, the only thing making me hesitate is that I am in Australia which has 240v/50hz power and there is no main power details on the drop info. Can anyone confirm this unit is compatible with 240v please?
PerthJM
https://youtu.be/iWSc3ghCjf4 According to the dude who posted somewhere below, at the 20sec mark on the video, the label shows 240v so should work in Aus.
I'm having some serious latency problems when playing video games or watching videos.
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is there any serious degradation of quality?
swagmaster_dave
No degradation at all, both are purely digital signals. I suppose it could be argued that USB is actually much riskier in terms of signal considering it consists of electrons running through copper that would be susceptible to interference by things like power supplies and grounding issues.
I wanted to buy this but due to the issues posted by others... not going to risk it unless teac issues a fix for it.
is this a better headphone amp/dac than the Aune X1S ?
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i haven't updated to the creator's yet and switching between the 101 and my modi uber 2 i can't detect any lag they are both using usb 2 ports on my system.
REVMAD
That's good to know. It must be some strange thing you gotta have or do in windows that effects the 101-da. Maybe conflicting drivers or something. Who knows.
I also had some problems owning this one.. Went for a denon pma-50 instead, Very nice.
ZZUPER
Which problems did you have? Like this thing a lot, but seems TEAC hasn't fixed the issues or isn't going to.
datyeti
yeah, its a nice design, ashame they didnt nail it internally high noise floor, broke out in static now and then, turned itself off.. seems the volume circuitry is at fault according to some forums.. and i had a Good sample! -_____-
this market segment is widely neglected for some reason.. basically your only alternatives are the nad, denon and nuforce.. i have the denon, it is Flawless.. the noise floor is bottomless as a digital circuit should be
can it power Fostex T50RP MK3
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Hentai_Lord
Yes, it's what i use (mayflower modded)
danisaacs
yup! it does. sounds amazing (with argons mk3)
Unboxing of the unit i got from Amazon. It seems MD folks are receiving similar units. Hopefully it answers the voltage rating question many are asking

https://youtu.be/iWSc3ghCjf4
Anyone having reboot issues? Have mine in a well ventilated area.
I just received this and hooked into my iMac 5k via USB and connection is not good. USB, Uncovert, and RC light blinking and my JBL LSR305s are making pop sound every 10 sec.
I tried optic connection which works fine, but then whenever there is no sound coming out, my speakers are making very loud white noise/hum. This continues when I turn off Teac ai-101 or mac. I like the sound a lot of this thing but I'm curious if others are also having trouble with USB cable when using OSX 10.12.
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Wait you are saying to thick cables can make speakers clip? Seriously clipping is caused by turning a amp up which doesn't have enough power for the speaker say a 20 watt amp on 80 watt speakers will definitly clip at full volume even on 3 qaurters probably. This is why I always get a amp with a higher power output than the speakers i'm using. I got a 100 Watt NAD 3400 on my B&W DM 110's 80 Watt and god is sounds great and no trace of clipping. Before the speakers even start to clip you can hear the woofers hit the back of the spider which is bad but you hear it instantly when it goes wrong rather reach physical speaker limitations than clipping it. I'm also running a nad 7020 basicly a nad 3020 with a tuner on a set of mission 760's I will probably upgrade to genelec's in the future though.
Tom-J-S
No the user is taking the speaker level output of this unit and using that to run to the trs line level input of their powered monitors. As the speaker output is variable and intended to drive devices with resistances from 4/6 to 16 ohms it is not apples to apples when running that same output to something with 600ohm input impedance... if the voltage output exceeds the input specifications of the powered monitors you can overdrive the input stage which results in a rounded off sine wave (aka clipped). This has nothing to do with the gauge of the cable but the potential to overdrive the input. The clipping example you've provided corresponds to overdrawing the amplifier, pushing it to high levels of distortion which A) Sounds bad and B) could also damage your speakers depending on various factors.
Haven't gotten mine yet but I'm getting a real sense of buyer's remorse already reading about this volume issue. I only plan to power two outdoor speakers with this unit and nothing else. I plan to use my phone as the source via Bluetooth. Besides the volume situation are there any other issues (Bluetooth, etc.) that I need to look out for??
archcsr
i feel like the bluetooth connect isn't as good as expected, sounds got delayed and chunky for only 5-6 meters without any barrier in between. otherwise the sound quality is good with bluetooth connection
I dont regret buying his unit but regret buying it from here. I wish I bought it from somewhere else. No warranty, 30 days only covered by massdrop. I got the random volume changing problem, going full 100%. I am not hopefuly if I go direct to TEAC but I'll try, I'm about two weeks away from a 12 month ownership, since receiving this unit. I recommend this unit, just not from here. Regrettable MD purchase.
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Thanks so much! I'm guessing this is really a design or manufacturing flaw, and not something that can be fixed by way of firmware update. I like the TEAC products I've used, but this one is too "iffy" for my tastes. I guess I'll look elsewhere for a similar DAC/amp. You've expended quite a bit of effort for my benefit. Thank you sincerely.
HollowState
My pleasure HollowState. I would definitely get this unit again if I had my time with it. Just not from here.
Edit: Let me know what you end up settling with, I'm aftersome ideas for the next one. Thank you :)
Is the TEAC LS-101 speakers option worth it or should I just buy different speakers and if so any recommendation for the low power speaker amp in the unit?
Momentary257
I don't mind it, I find it a bit lacking mids and power. I have paired mine with an OSD-PS88 sub which is fantastic. I'd get something a tad bigger than the LS-101.
Is support active on weekends? I contacted them via email two days ago and have not received a response for the volume issue. I hope this is not deliberate because I am very close to the 12 month period and deliberately waiting this out so that they could turn around and tell me it's out of warranty because they waited out on responding to me isn't very cool.
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