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Beyerdynamic DT990 All Black Everything

Beyerdynamic DT990 All Black Everything

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It seems like a lot of people are confused about what this product is and how to price shop it. Here a few tips and pointers.
1. Beyerdynamic makes four DT990 models: DT990 premium (32, 250, and 600 ohm variants) DT990 Pro (250 variant only) DT990 Pro All Black (250 ohm variant only) DT990 Premium Manufaktur (32, 250, and 600 ohm variants). Technically the same as the DT990 premium just with custom colors and parts. All audio specs are the same.
2. The DT9900 premium is selling on the big online marketplace in 250, and 600 ohm for $249 right now. The Manufaktur versions are typically only available for special order directly through Beyerdynamic or someone that partners with Beyer like Massdrop. These are more expensive than the normal premium models as they are customized by hand in Brooklyn by Beyerdynamic.
3. The Pro model is the one everyone is referencing as being $130~ which is correct and is specifically for monitoring and studio applications (not to say you can't use it for anything if that is the sound you like). This however is the cheaper Beyer model and a completely different model than the one Massdrop is selling here.
I have included images below of the four different models so you can see the visual difference. Please just note all these differences when price shopping.
Hopefully that helps clarify as I was a bit confused with all the variants at first as well.
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My comment is for all sites customers use including stores( anything where a service is provided)
Fergy
Mmm hmm
How often do they drop?
i have a fetish for matte black
How do these compare to the HD650s? I had a look online, but everything's kinda confusing.
Amazon 189 plus free shipping same headphones but not black
Got an email that this drop is finally available again; but of course the 250ohm model is already sold out... AGAIN !!
PatSlovak
Yeh whats up with that? They should let us choose all the 49 units freely so it could be possible to purchase all 49 in the 250 variant if we wanted to!!!
Knew that many people here will miss out this joke; these are the Manufaktur versions, so being customised means that they are going to be slightly more expensive. The title is a tad confusing, and that may what believe in people thinking that this is a poor deal.
Remember, the Manufaktur editions are not widely available to purchase anywhere. They're either bought directly from Beyer or their specialised partners; in this case, here.
Whats the sound leakage like on these?
Classy
I have them and it leaks a lot since they are open. Not for outside use
Why?????? Never understood this drop. I got the standard 250 ohm version for $115 on Amazon maybe 4 months back.
Bhelem
I don't understand it either. Does this All Black Everything version offer a different frequency response? Is the driver actually different or differently tuned? There's also a "limited" (it's always on stock) black version available on amazon
Bhelem
This is the manufaktur version, meaning these headphones aren’t Widely avaible. Only able be bought through beyerdyanamics themselves or a special partner, in this case massdrop. Hopefully this cleared up some things even though this comment was a year ago.
Beyer Dynamic warranty sucks.
Not a deal if you're in Europe, as per usual with Beyerdynamic.
Just adding to my comments, the 250 ohmmodels between the DT990s are sonically the same. The differences are in color and cord type ( straight vs curled). The pro model is cheap because it is more industrial. The deluxe models may (may?) look nicer, but there is no difference in drivers. The pros are very good looking anyway.
Whether this is a good price or not, these headphones look dope as hell.
Terrible deal. Great headphones though. I have the DT990 Pros 250ohm model. They work well with my Pono player, ok with iPhone, excellent with Schiit Asgard. They reveal every last detail. Pricing can be had well under $200 however through Amazon. These are well constructed, quality headphones.
$219? Ridiculous. They are $139 on Amazon right now. Do not do this drop if you read this.. Much cheaper on Amazon.
Got my 600ohm set a couple weeks after the drop ended. I'm enjoying it paired with the Schiit Magni amp, which IMO is def required to power these headphones. I also recently modded them with a mini-xlr connector for convenience, but mostly for fun.
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My pair didn't show the impedance on the cable. The only place it was labeled was a sticker on the box they came in. I knew for sure it was 600ohm because I wasn't able to get any real volume out of them without my Shiit amp.
FourtyOneHz
Ok just checking since everyone seems to say it's on the cable and mine is the exact same!
Whats the difference compared to sennheiser hd6xx and akg k7xx in terms of sound quality, sound stage and comfort?
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I dont wanna confuse u more, but tbh when deciding which to buy, a little gambling is involved. The K7XX, if you have the proper amp and if you are patient for the burn in to complete, is a solid choice. It tends to be picky on which amp it 'likes'. The 990s on the other hand could pierce ur ears due to the treble, and u might not like several of ur music anymore bcos of that.. but it is safer in terms of amplification and burn in doesnt take long... For gaming, I prefer the 990s for the soundstage. Comfort is better in K7XX but I have the Pros so clamp might be tighter on mine than the one on this drop
Raider275
alright cool, thank u for answers :)
It is a beautiful pair of headphones and I would love to get one. Unfortunately, for someone living in Europe, the price is very hard to understand...
It's really great to see all these comments and general information on these cans. I would love to pull the trigger on these but there's one thing that's keeping me back a bit and that's the issue of an apparent recessed midrange for all these various models. For me, that's the most important thing in music reproduction and having listened to Grados for over 20 years (which I rarely listen to nowadays), I've come to understand that most musical information happens here. And being a professional pianist, I'm use to that more immediate and present sound.
My current cans (earbuds actually) are a pair of recabled Yuin PK1's which have a 150 ohm impedance. To my ears, these have an excellent midrange - very rich and dynamic with no upper bass boost. The bass is tight and accurate but then I'm not a bass head so that's good for me. The treble is just about right - not strident or overly bright. They sound really good directly from a portable device but when they're amped, they really come alive. Soundstaging is amazing. Separation is great. It is, in my opinion, one of the best "audiophile" earbuds you can get. But I long for a pair of really good open back headphones that can bring me that same sense of balance and involvement and the 250 ohm version of the DT990s seems like it might be a good fit but if the midrange isn't going to be what I want, I may pass but then again from what I've read so far about them, they may be just what I'm looking for since I value clarity with an overall dynamic presence. The 600 ohm version may be good too with the right amp.
Decisions, decisions...
I dont really agree with the 'Fatigue-Free Listening' though XD
I have these for like 8 months now. I will just leave my 2 cents here. Yes, these are DT 990 Premium Manufactur. You can assemble just like this one at Beyerdynamic online store, and it will come out just like $10~$20 more expensive than here, not counting in shipping. If you are thinking about ordering from EU, then you are just better off by ordering them from Beyerdynamic. Premium is a completely different headphone from Pro. The drivers are different, the frequency response is different. QC on these were pretty poor. Mine, and few other people had issue, that the drivers were rattling. I sent mine back to beyerdynamic, they sent me back new headphones, those were fine. But, just so you know - some 5 out of some 40 people had the same issues. So be careful. To enjoy these headphones the most - I highly recommend to have DarkVoice! These headphones pairs godly with tubes. I own m50x, THx00, and these. M50x I use at work, just because they are closed set. So at home I have x00 and these - and since I got these - x00 have been sitting in the box since. I fucking love these. The bass is insane. Much more tighter and faster than x00, these go lower, and, even tho these are open back, they still can shake you eyeballs! The details are clear. Soundstage is awesome. Highs may get a bit too much, but I have grown to like them, and the sound of x00 now just seems muddy and dull.
Magni 2 on high gain and DarkVoice can push these headphones over their limit. Aune X1s just gets there, can push team completely fine tho. Over time, I feel like the required power to drive them, has calmed down. When new, when I plugged in my phone to see how bad they would sound - they barely made any sound. Now, when phone maxed oud, they sound almost fine. So dont get scared about the 600 ohms. I havent listened to other models, but I have heard from people around, that 600ohm versions have faster and tighter bass. And that is the thing I love about these headphones.
Would the 250 or 600 ohm version be best with the bottlehead crack?
usually most people will suggest the 250 one
I'll just leave this here. DT990 The DT990 is a fully open headphone with very impressive bass. Though the treble is more pronounced in the whole line up of headphones. I classify this headphone as their fun and bassy one. One thing to note that the DT990 has the most recessed midrange of all three lines. . . 32Ohm The 32Ohm model for this headphone follows like the previous two lines. It sounds very much like the 600Ohm models, but has a far less refined tone to it. The bass in this model also seems a little sloppy compared to its other two incarnation and is slower sounding as well. The soundstage is still smaller like the other two lines, but bigger than the 32Ohm DT880. The midrange is fuller than the 250Ohm model, but is a lot more hollow sounding than the 32Ohm DT880. The soundstage is also wider than the 32Ohm DT880 with better imaging. . . - 250Ohm The treble us a bit far too pronounced and covers the midrange, though it has better detail and extension over the other DT770 and DT880 models. It’s somewhat strident and can cause ear fatigue quite quickly for those who are sensitive to treble. The midrange, as stated above, is very shallow to almost nonexistent. Maybe that’s overstating it, but it’s very shallow sounding, but what can be heard is very detailed and transparent. The 250Ohm DT880 has a much fuller midrange, but the DT990’s has more detail and transparency to it. The bass is very prominent and takes over the sound. It makes the headphone sound darker. The impact on the bass is very impressive for an open headphone and it has more extension than the 250Ohm DT880, but lacks it’s texturing and layering. The soundstage easily beats the 250Ohm DT880 as this ohm rating of the DT990 is much wider and deeper sounding. . . - 250Ohm (PRO) The pro version follows the trend of the other two lines pro variants with a smaller soundstage, more bass, and more clamp. The treble seems smoother also because of the increased clamping force and aids the mids in coming forward. Bass seems to have gained impact but now there’s slightly more bass. Even more bass than the 600Ohm model, but not as controlled. The treble is smoother now from the added bass as it gets masked a tiny bit. The mids gain some body and the lower mids are more audible. . . - 600Ohm The 600Ohm model is the definitive version of the DT990 and has the smoothest treble of the DT990 line. It’s also the most detailed treble of all three lines and offers the most extension. The midrange of this model is close to the 250Ohm DT880 and is rather shallow, but far more improved over the 250Ohm DT990. The DT990 600Ohm’s mids are a little bit more transparent and detailed over its 250Ohm counterpart, but not nearly as full sounding as the 600Ohm DT880. The DT990 still has a slightly more detailed midrange over the 600Ohm DT880. Bass on this model is just insane. It has so much impact and is so tight and controlled sounding it makes you question that’s it’s an open headphone. Also the bass is very snappy and fast, far faster sounding than the other DT990 variants. Really just the most impactfull and controlled bass I’ve heard from an open headphone. The soundstage also beats all the DT770 and DT880 models and is pretty wide and deep. The imaging though is just a bit better than the 600Ohm DT880, but not by much.
gonhop
All subjective and dependent on source, of course :) To my older ears, the 250 ohm Premium with a warmish dac/amp was not at all strident, but if you're more sensitive and/or use a "harder" source I could see that they might be. "Sparkling" highs is how I'd describe them, and the highs on these 'phones are what gives them such an amazing sense of width and clarity IMO. Bass is awesome yet fairly well controlled and mids are indeed pretty recessed.
The recessed mids probably cause people to crank up the volume, which makes the bass and highs feel so forward in the mix. It's like having headphones with a "loudness" switch permanently on! Awesome for rock and electronic music. Less so for more vocal-centric music.
gonhop
Woa, are these all your observations? I would love to compare them myself one day. But the things you said about 600ohm version - I completely agree. Bass on closed back headphones usually just comes from the structure and scaffolding of the cups. It may sound bassy, but you take them off, leave them on the table, crank them up, and - because the cup is now open to air - you cant hear any bass from the distance any more. The DT990 600ohm tho - it sounds like there is a little subwoofer in there, thumping out those low notes - and you can easily hear the bass from around the room!
Would the 250ohm pair well with a Little Dot 1+ or maybe a schiit stack? How does this stack up to a K7xx? I've heard the 990's have piercing highs will these be the same?
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Very detailed response, thanks a lot! Sounds like the K7xx will be more to my taste - pleased to hear you own both pairs and didn't mention any major drawbacks with either pair. Good to know how important an amp is, I might have been disappointed otherwise. Looks like I'll be jumping on the next 7xx drop I'm hoping for the all black ones!
jacksb
Yes. If you are looking to get the K7XX, I suggest you wait (they drop pretty frequently, so no rush lol) because if you don't have an amp and go with their 64 ohms impedance and plug them in any portable source, they will sound hollow and dull.
Can anyone explain why does this cost 220 dollars? The normal DT 990 only costs 140 on amazon
Hadarsi320
It's complicated. The 32 ohm Premium (silver) costs $140 on Amazon. The 250 ohm Premium (silver) costs $248 on Amazon. The black "pro" version costs $150 (the Pro version is always cheaper than the Premium version). And to get the custom all-black premium "Manufaktur" version direct from Beyerdynamic (similar to this drop) costs about 240 Euros.
So if you don't care about the all-black finish and want the 32ohm Premium model then, yes, Amazon is cheaper. And if you don't mind the plasticky Pro version with its tighter clamping, coiled cable, and slightly different sound sig then, yes, that's also cheaper on Amazon.
But the 250 or 600 ohm Premium versions are more expensive on Amazon, and that's even before factoring in the all black customization, making this drop a good deal and one I'd jump on if not for the fact I just bought the EM-U teaks.
I think that if there are differences that people should know when looking at any drop, those differences should be clearly articulated by massdrop in the description or, better yet have someone from the manufacturer themselves do / say something to promote the special nature or characteristics of this product due to the partner ship. It is very confusing to see the drop here and then see what we think is the same item for less, sometimes much less on another website. For example, what does all black everything do to help us differentiate that this is a special collaboration between Massdrop and the manufacturer. There very well could be enhancements, just let us know.
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ez101
Trust me,....if there are enhancements to perormance MD "broadcasts" it all over the description page! Case in point the recent AKG 7xxx. Supposedly bass improved, soundstage widened and treble slightly rolled off. I bought in. I do like the sound for $200. But, that being said, the you must really listen for definitive bass, don't think the treble is that rolled off, however, the soundstage is one of the VERY BEST that I've heard at this price point@ Far better in fact, that my OPPO PM-1's; which as one can imagine, surprised the hell out of me considering I paid close to $1100 for them!!! They are close to 2 years old so sending them back is no longer an option but, having listened intently and objectively as I could to both pairs and knowing now what I know now; I would have left the PM-1's in a Chinese factory's warehouse! I know most of this crap is made in the celestial kingdom and that the real "acid test" is the qulaity control of the m,anufacturer thjat is either contracted or owned by the company in question. Just to illustrate the point ,OPPO is or was owned by Japs, designed by a team of supposed "audiophile" fanatics, engineers, et. al. {whom, BTW, must all have extremely small ears and heads} and executed and manufactured in "Gina!" Go figure??!!
Selling a product - that is not just an image one the website. Selling product is a process, a profession! And, for their own interests, they should clarify these misconceptions!
much cheaper on Amazon....especially 32 & 250ohm versions! and with amazon "prime" you can try them for 30 days, and if you don't like....you can send them back!
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Well. I'm not English speaking. I'm not ashamed I can't spell well. Im not here to fight with anyone. I always think the prices tell something. My roomate has a Dt990. I like it. And I like the black version. So I've joined. His is a 600ohm. the Sony PHA3 drives it hardly. I took the 250 ohm one.
Oh. Thanks for the information Karon. It's a smart way to buy from Germany. But I don't read German. I got a Chord Mojo from the UK. It's also cheaper than the US.
Frankly, the massive response spike at 60Hz seems kinda nuts. Would someone who already has these comment on the sound and compare to other headphones?
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WildChinoise
That is not a frequency response graph.
To the fellow Canadians: https://www.amazon.ca/Beyerdynamic-990-Premium-600-Headphones/dp/B0024NK34O/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1484250812&sr=8-3&keywords=beyerdynamic+990 CDN$ 228.98 & FREE Shipping.
Or the black version here 219.99 US Dollar equals 288.62 Canadian Dollar + shipping.
I sure love the black but not enough for that difference.