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Kanemoto Inox Stainless Steel Kitchen Shears
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Kanemoto Inox Stainless Steel Kitchen Shears
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A good pair of kitchen shears can save time and a whole lot of effort. This pair from Kanemoto is crafted with hammer-forged stainless steel blades with mild scalloping on one edge Read More
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keyboard_arrow_downToots
82
Apr 29, 2018
For those considering a purchase, I used my pair for light tasks, cutting open bags and such. When I went to cut the ends off a small bunch of flowers on Easter, they broke.
A pair of scissors actually broke...right where the handle meets the blade...cutting dainty flower stems. Close inspection reveals to me what appears to be a major design flaw, and questionable quality steel.
Well, back to my old, beat up, unsightly, decades old pair of Wiss' that would probably cut through a toaster.
*edited the holiday...derp*
A pair of scissors actually broke...right where the handle meets the blade...cutting dainty flower stems. Close inspection reveals to me what appears to be a major design flaw, and questionable quality steel.
Well, back to my old, beat up, unsightly, decades old pair of Wiss' that would probably cut through a toaster.
*edited the holiday...derp*
Kavik
5531
Apr 30, 2018
That.... Is ridiculous 😳
Thanks for the heads up. This must be the weld point between the handles and the blades that was being discussed by @toxic and @TheIzzardKing 7 weeks back...
Thanks for the heads up. This must be the weld point between the handles and the blades that was being discussed by @toxic and @TheIzzardKing 7 weeks back...
smallbit
1328
Apr 30, 2018
Well I don't know how to get ahead of that one lol. That is rough stuff. Thanks for posting!
keantoken
34
Oct 19, 2017
Mine arrived. It's clear the mechanism is carefully designed to be functional while constructed from cheap off the shelf parts. Which is not necessarily a mark against it, it reduces costs and allows for greater quality at a low cost point. It has dried on polishing compound left in the nooks and crannies, which is a pain to wash out.
What surprised me is that the pin is spring loaded, so it forces the blades together. Normally shears are bent so that the blades push themselves together, but this causes them to wear out quickly. In this case an ordinary lock washer is used as a spring in the pin. As a result, when taking it apart you hear a distinct metallic click as the spring releases and the blades come apart. This lock washer has an ordinary oxide coating on it and I assume it will be the first thing to rust, and anything it touches will probably start to rust as well. If you could get the pin off you could replace it with another lock washer from the hardware store.
It's not necessary for them to use a lock washer here, I'm sure the company could find a stainless wave spring that fit perfectly fine, but maybe they were a bit overzealous in counting pennies - or just not very good at design: https://www.ebay.com/sch/items/?_nkw=wave+washer&_sacat=&_ex_kw=&_mPrRngCbx=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_sop=12&_fpos=&_fspt=1&_sadis=&LH_CAds=&rmvSB=true
The pin does not hold the shears precisely. The tips of the shears are not perfectly even (mine are about 1mm off), so you can't cut certain things right at the tips of the shears, if that is something you ever need to do. In theory, if the hole were drilled to fit the pin better with a drilling jig to get the tips in the right places, this needn't be an issue.
All in all, I say the main thing that justifies the price of these (to some people) is the fact that they are solid metal. You are paying for metal, and partly for design but not for a really good design. If you hoped these would go in the dishwasher, I am skeptical that the temper of the blades and spring washer will endure that very well, let alone without rusting. The design is thought-out, but not very well and not the best in execution either. Ultimately, shears that weren't thick solid stainless steel could be cheaper, have a better mechanism, and last longer. As it is though, it will probably last longer than most grocery store shears or shears with pot metal handles.
What surprised me is that the pin is spring loaded, so it forces the blades together. Normally shears are bent so that the blades push themselves together, but this causes them to wear out quickly. In this case an ordinary lock washer is used as a spring in the pin. As a result, when taking it apart you hear a distinct metallic click as the spring releases and the blades come apart. This lock washer has an ordinary oxide coating on it and I assume it will be the first thing to rust, and anything it touches will probably start to rust as well. If you could get the pin off you could replace it with another lock washer from the hardware store.
It's not necessary for them to use a lock washer here, I'm sure the company could find a stainless wave spring that fit perfectly fine, but maybe they were a bit overzealous in counting pennies - or just not very good at design: https://www.ebay.com/sch/items/?_nkw=wave+washer&_sacat=&_ex_kw=&_mPrRngCbx=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_sop=12&_fpos=&_fspt=1&_sadis=&LH_CAds=&rmvSB=true
The pin does not hold the shears precisely. The tips of the shears are not perfectly even (mine are about 1mm off), so you can't cut certain things right at the tips of the shears, if that is something you ever need to do. In theory, if the hole were drilled to fit the pin better with a drilling jig to get the tips in the right places, this needn't be an issue.
All in all, I say the main thing that justifies the price of these (to some people) is the fact that they are solid metal. You are paying for metal, and partly for design but not for a really good design. If you hoped these would go in the dishwasher, I am skeptical that the temper of the blades and spring washer will endure that very well, let alone without rusting. The design is thought-out, but not very well and not the best in execution either. Ultimately, shears that weren't thick solid stainless steel could be cheaper, have a better mechanism, and last longer. As it is though, it will probably last longer than most grocery store shears or shears with pot metal handles.
Donborvio
4
May 2, 2018
keantokenFor $35 I'd expect some decent frickin quality. I've had these for 10 years with zero problems:
https://www.amazon.com/Wusthof-5558-1-Come-Apart-Kitchen-Shears/dp/B0000631ZM
https://www.amazon.com/Wusthof-5558-1-Come-Apart-Kitchen-Shears/dp/B0000631ZM
keantoken
34
May 2, 2018
DonborvioWhat you have may not be what is currently being sold:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R3DHYTEO2J0TEX/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B0000631ZM
I'll bet there are a lot of excellent shears out there that look completely ordinary. It's hard to tell with all the shill reviews these days.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R3DHYTEO2J0TEX/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B0000631ZM
I'll bet there are a lot of excellent shears out there that look completely ordinary. It's hard to tell with all the shill reviews these days.
Chrizzly
41
Mar 11, 2018
The cheaper one from Amazon is not forged steel read the q&a.. Not the same at all. Forged steel is much stronger And higher quality just as with knives.
its_pronounced_fee
29
Mar 28, 2017
I've done some digging and this drop looks like it's totally worth it.
The MFG's product page: http://www.tojiro-japan.com/products/650/ Other sightings include:
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/tojiro-kitchen-shears.html
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tojiro-professional-kitchen-scissors-Separate-FK-843-/401287656992?_trksid=p2349526.m2548.l4275
http://a.co/hRednH2
https://www.japanwoodworker.com/products/tojiro-pro-inox-stainless-steel-kitchen-scissors?via=58923198617070231a000047%2C5893b7c161707071e800a225
http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/yminfo/item/10006246/?s-id=borderless_recommend_item_en
Amazon's lowest listed price was $49:
The MFG's product page: http://www.tojiro-japan.com/products/650/ Other sightings include:
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/tojiro-kitchen-shears.html
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tojiro-professional-kitchen-scissors-Separate-FK-843-/401287656992?_trksid=p2349526.m2548.l4275
http://a.co/hRednH2
https://www.japanwoodworker.com/products/tojiro-pro-inox-stainless-steel-kitchen-scissors?via=58923198617070231a000047%2C5893b7c161707071e800a225
http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/yminfo/item/10006246/?s-id=borderless_recommend_item_en
Amazon's lowest listed price was $49:
brenda52411
181
Mar 10, 2018
You have sold ME on those knives... I just looked at them... wish we could do a Massdrop for the knives!!
BENSHEE
18
May 1, 2018
its_pronounced_feeHere is better price but, this drop has even better price
https://www.globalkitchenjapan.com/products/tojiro-pro-stainless-steel-take-apart-kitchen-scissors-fk-843
JonasHeineman
5987
Mar 12, 2018
I’ve been using these for a year and really like them. I don’t use them for heavy tasks often, but they are still very sharp. Last night, I used them to spatchcock a chicken for the grill and they breezed through all the layers, leaving a straight cut through skin, muscle, and bone straight up both sides of the spine. Before and after cooking;
RayF
22215
Mar 13, 2018
JonasHeinemanOh--that is no way to treat a chicken! Tell me you at least anesthetized her first?!
KTO1
113
Mar 10, 2018
What type of stainless steel are these made from? Does anyone know? I googled, but couldn't find the brand. Please don't reply "inox."
keantoken
34
Apr 29, 2018
That is alarming. I'm not an expert, but I'm not sure delamination is the cause. I would expect the surface of the fracture to be more black if that were the case. It could also be that it is work hardened during the forming process and got too cold while forming or something, and eventually become brittle. It's a big stress riser in the design.
Toxic
248
May 1, 2018
keantokenI'm leaning toward delamination, or other de-something (whatever something they used to fuse pieces together). Because if it was a single piece of steel, it wold break in a completely different manner - after reaching failure point it breaks completely with a high pitch click and the piece that broke apart flies away.
keantoken
34
Mar 12, 2018
Dishwasher thermal cycling has been found to decrease hardness, just at a very slow rate. Knives that are very hard are not affected as much as knives that are only hardened a bit. Hard knives can withstand thousands of cycles before losing a few points RWC.
But since these shears are stainless steel and not hardened, there is no temper to lose. Being stainless steel, they will resist edge corrosion better than high carbon steels which corrode faster.
But since these shears are stainless steel and not hardened, there is no temper to lose. Being stainless steel, they will resist edge corrosion better than high carbon steels which corrode faster.
Littlerat
27
Apr 28, 2017
I got one one on the way on Amazon, $12 and free shipping . It is almost the same, made in Japan. Not sure which one is better.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001TV93SY/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
smallbit
1328
Sep 4, 2017
KitwI bought these Kanemoto's but wouldn't touch what was originally linked due to those reviews about it breaking in half.
Kavik
5531
May 29, 2018
NomisRThe best? A low speed water wheel with a proper angle guide is my choice for scissors
But short of that? I'd recommend a fine diamond plate (will stay flatter than any stones), a steady hand, and touching up with just a few light strokes often. Easier to maintain an edge than set a new one (cheaper too, as you won't need multiple grits that way)
Keep the bevel angle exactly as is from the factory. Sharpen the bevel only, never touch the flat inside faces of the blade. Gentle and even strokes for equal grinding along the entire length of the blade. Before use, remove the burr: Depending on the construction of the scissors, if you can get them closed without the blades touching (by applying pressure with your opposite hand to keep the blades apart until they're closed), do that then open them, repeat 2 or 3 times. If they're too tight to allow that, then remove burr by dragging each blade through a cork, or into the end grain of a soft wood, to remove the burr before re-assembly
But short of that? I'd recommend a fine diamond plate (will stay flatter than any stones), a steady hand, and touching up with just a few light strokes often. Easier to maintain an edge than set a new one (cheaper too, as you won't need multiple grits that way)
Keep the bevel angle exactly as is from the factory. Sharpen the bevel only, never touch the flat inside faces of the blade. Gentle and even strokes for equal grinding along the entire length of the blade. Before use, remove the burr: Depending on the construction of the scissors, if you can get them closed without the blades touching (by applying pressure with your opposite hand to keep the blades apart until they're closed), do that then open them, repeat 2 or 3 times. If they're too tight to allow that, then remove burr by dragging each blade through a cork, or into the end grain of a soft wood, to remove the burr before re-assembly
ClickFlips
7
Jun 18, 2018
NomisRtbh there is probably a knife sharpener in your area. You should just use them unless you feel like picking up a skill.
I shave with a straight razor and sharpen my own blade, so here's what you would need: a set of sharpening stones (shapton a good brand), a stone holder so they don't slide all over the place while you're using them, and a dia-flat lapping plate (plate steel with industrial diamonds on it). You use the stones on the blade (scissors, knife, straight razor, whatever), then you use the lapping plate to keep the stones in good shape.
The last thing you need is some instrucitonal videos
I shave with a straight razor and sharpen my own blade, so here's what you would need: a set of sharpening stones (shapton a good brand), a stone holder so they don't slide all over the place while you're using them, and a dia-flat lapping plate (plate steel with industrial diamonds on it). You use the stones on the blade (scissors, knife, straight razor, whatever), then you use the lapping plate to keep the stones in good shape.
The last thing you need is some instrucitonal videos
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