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Massdrop x Ferrum Forge Falcon Wing Edition

Massdrop x Ferrum Forge Falcon Wing Edition

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Stickied
Hi everyone,
Good news! We’re excited to announce that the Massdrop x Ferrum Forge Falcon Wing Edition has arrived at the warehouse and we’re planning on sending the knives out a bit early. The team is wrapping up quality control checks, and we now estimate that the knives will ship by the end of next week (June 8).
If you need to change your delivery address please contact community support through your transactions page (https://www.massdrop.com/transactions) by this Friday, June 1 at 5 p.m. PT.
We’re looking forward to you receiving the Falcon Wing!
Stickied
Hey everyone,
Thanks to strong community support of the Ferrum Forge Falcon design, we're able to re-introduce this knife with a new precision-milled Wing pattern in two new colors. The Falcon is the first ever "Massdrop Made" knife, and the starting point for more collaborations between Ferrum Forge, WE Knife, and Massdrop including Crux and Gent models. It's hard to describe how awesome these guys are to work with, and how dedicated everyone on both of their teams are to delivering a product everyone is proud to have their name on. We are grateful that the community liked this one so much that we're able to bring back this popular model with a sweet facelift.
In addition to the milling pattern, the specific finishing process that you see on these was developed in close collaboration between Ferrum Forge and WE Knife. This model also features the newly-redesigned pocket clip, which offers greater flexibility and resistance to deformation or breakage. Driven by community feedback, and lab-tested to verify the improvements, this design change was implemented in a remarkably short timeframe. For more information, check out this comprehensive post with data graphs written by our in-house engineer, John Wu, in the Blades Talk area: https://www.massdrop.com/talk/3163/ferrum-forge-knife-works-improved-pocket-clips
Per the Note on Description page, this knife is being offered to members who join this pre-production drop at a special price of $139.99, with serial numbers under #0500 (per color) guaranteed to everyone who joins. Please also note that we will be closing the drop at 10:00 pm on 1/31/18 in order to get a jump on production, and then reopening for the whole month of February (or while supplies last). We have posted an Estimated Ship Date of 6/29/18, but we hope this will enable us to reduce the lead time for production.
Thanks to everyone who joined past drops for the Falcon, as well as all the members who are just hearing about the Falcon for the first time.
Carry On -- Jonas
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Was curious of the same. And hoping the anodized bronze, is smooth, like the blue Falcon.
TheHelton5
The bronze is smooth, it's awesome
The description is still hiding the handle length...
Well, This is a 1st. Received my Wing Edition a couple of days ago. The action is not nearly as good as my FF "Buc" so I decided to disassemble the the knife today and discovered that it's not possible. The screw in the handle has stripped threads or the ti threads are stripped and the screw just spins but won't back out. Since this is not the Initial drop, I wonder if they sold me a knife that had already been returned to MD by a customer that damaged the knife. It looks fine and you wouldn't know there was any issue unless you try to disassemble. The only reason I suspect this knife was a return is because I literally own more than a dozen WE knives and I have disassembled all and never had this issue. Contacted support for a refund or replacement.
I wish the overview listed the handle length, ultimately it's my fault for ordering without subtracting the blade length from the listed overall length, but the handle is just tiny (perfect fit if you're "choked-up" and using the choil). It's a very well made knife (like other ferrum/WE knives) aside from the pocket clip, which isn't terrible, but more "take it or leave it". Just too small for my bear paws, Really wish I ordered the DAO instead.
Also, I ordered Bronze and received Gray (which is actually more champagne compared to the gray juggernaut crux). Not really looking forward to dealing with support to exchange it though...
It's beyond me why folks are buying this knife. I have the original one and do not like it at all. The handle is way to small to be useful and the pocket clip is worthless. I must assume many of you like it? I'd be very curious as to why? Not trying to be a smart ass, it just wasn't my thing, way to small. Needs a bigger handle and different pocket clip. Then I got sucked into the larger design they have, don't like that one either but it is better than this one... for me.
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Yeah, I have had a couple stinkers here. The Perpetua(which I hope to fix), the Nemesis Mar(bad enough that I will never buy another Nemesis knife) and that Rama spinner which looked great but really did not spin well at all. Also, every Allegory leather item I have bought has been really shoddy as far as seams and stiching. Not sure why I keep giving them another chance. Also not sure why I never get around to returning.
They might have only made that one knife for HX, but it's the 'budget' version of the Thor3 integral. Gearbest, DHGate, Aliexpress, and Fasttech are probably the only ways to go for that, because it's made for non-US markets and so you get a much better price in return for the slow shipping and nonstandard retailers. I think the lowest I've seen them go is ~$120, but they are usually on permanent sale for about $150, occasionally dipping to $130ish.
I bought this knife secondhand on bladeforums, so I can't leave a review in the review section, but here are my thoughts:
First, the good news. The full finger choil as well as the cutout on top of the blade are wonderfully ergonomic and make for a great choke-up position. Holding the knife in the rear position allows for a decent amount of control, as well. The blade has plenty of belly, and the whole knife is extremely stylish in a compact package.
The bad news is the ergo sins. The clip is sharp in the back, leaving to a nasty hot spot in your palm, and even when you take it off, because the knife was outfitted with a lanyard cut-out (oh, I wish knife manufacturers would stop it with lanyard cutouts, already), this area, which needs to be chamfered, produces a hot spot as well. All Massdrop needed to do was just take a tiny bit of material off of that corner, but because they didn't, it's irritating to the palm, though not as much as the clip is.
The ugly news is that the knife very badly needs a detent ramp. The detent ball gets stuck on the blade and just cannot clear it without a hell of an effort. This is about as bad a time getting a framelock knife back into the frame as I have seen; it's nasty.
The knife is good but Massdrop missed an opportunity to make this a great knife by falling down on some details that make all the difference.
Just got mine (finally). Can’t leave a review because reasons. Still has the solid ergonomics of the original Falcon. Bronze colour is definitely a lot more muted than the pictures would lead you to believe (this was taken under a warmer light). Action is good, I’d say it flips open 90% of the time. Not the smoothest action, needs a little shake to close. I’d give it a 4/5, as good as the og Falcon, but better looking.
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Ares78
My bronze one had an amazing action for a Falcon, it was basically tip-to-shut. Unfortunately the detent hole was a little ragged around the edges, and so it was sometimes perfect and sometimes had a little closed wiggle+super hard detent.
Other than that it was the best of three Falcons I've got, an original and a Blackout that are both outstanding knives as well. They're more like yours though, the pivots are noticeably not free swinging and never will be, though they feel smooth when closing and the knife feels like a tank rather than a toy anyway.
I wish this knife were bigger!
Will the black out version be restocked?
Are these made in the USA?
CheapDeals
No, made in China by WE Knives. Their quality control is bang on, far better then some of the American companie (Benchmade). Designed by Ferrum Forge a fr pair of American brothers.
Kudos to MassDrop for good customer service. My first knife was lost in the mail somewhere. So they sent a second one with no questions asked.
However the CBSA decided to be a little strict on my second knife and have seized it.
What a shame, I wanted to get my hands on one of these.
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That would be great! If they can't disassemble it for me, I'll get in contact with you. Thank you!
But if they can build it, and test it, they'll seize it.
I want one so bad in Left Hand...
Well, my package shows as delivered to my mailbox (a cluster box for my neighborhood, along with two other packages) and of course the USPS didn’t deliver to my box or the currier decided to keep my packages.
I really wanted to get to get my hands on the blackout falcon wing. I’ve contacted the USPS and they are allegedly looking into it. In total about $300 worth of missing goods.
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Omniseed
That's mine with my blue saber Crux, it's pretty outrageous
It's been exactly one week since the estimated arrival date. Still no sign of my Falcon. I'm starting to lose hope for it arriving anymore at all. Unfortunate.
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It's starting to look like it. I had a Chris Reeve Sebenza opened as well as a CRKT Pilar. Kind of ridiculous.
I'm going to Contact MassDrop to see what my options are. I'd love to have a sub 500 serialed Falcon still.
WolfOFJax
The only way to guarantee it is to separate the blade so they can't just test the action.
The Falcon should be able to easily pass the test that CBSA described when they changed their tack on pocketknives.
It seems like there are several owners of the Massdrop Ferrum Falcon knives that don't like how tight the blade is since it affects how easy it is to flip out. I am one of those people. So I fixed mine. I assume that most people that are this into knives have some mechanical ability. This requires mostly disassembling the knife. 1. Remove belt clip. 2. Remove the main pivot screw (male & female assy.) 3. Separate the frames, may require a little prying since the locating pins have close tolerances and fit well. 4. Remove the screw that holds the frame lock/limiting plate on the locking side of the knife frame. 5. Remove the little frame lock/limiting plate which is inset into the frame lock lever. This can be a little bit of work since it is a very exact machine fit. It's not tight just close tolerances and it will stick if moved off kilter. Kudos to We Knife; I am impressed at the machined tolerances, unreal! 6. Once that lock/limiting plate is removed, the frame lock arm can be bent outward. Be careful it bends easily and it's very easy to go to far. Bend it out enough to where it springs back and matches how it looks in the attached
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The photo shows the outward maximum that I would trust going with the lock arm. You can see that the lock/limiting plate is only engaged 1/2 it's width with the locking tab of the blade. I would actually recommend more engagement ; 3/4 to full would be safer. After assembly I pressed the back of the blade against the counter with it locked and it didn't budge on my knife, however yours might differ so be careful. This is a YMMV recommendation with a disclosure that I am not liable if you make this modification. Peace
P.S. I noticed the pivot screw was a little tight on the bearings when assembled tightly, so I backed it off some until I felt no bearing feedback, the blade dropped freely and there was no free-play. If it loosens more on it's own I'll have to hit it with a dab of blue locktite later.
hsdrggr
Due to the locking plate not engaging the blade tightly (there was a little play) after bending the frame lock arm out, I did take the knife apart again and slightly bent the frame lock arm in a little more. Now the locking plate is snug against the blade. It's just perfect now. Flicks out much easier than stock and still locks the blade firmly. Takes a little work but it's worth it.
Be forewarned the Winged Bronze edition looks nothing like the computer rendered photo. I received the bronze edition and after looking at it I thought they sent the silver version, so I had it exchanged. The replacement is the same. The bronze tint is extremely muted. I ordered a deep clip from Pops Custom Clips and it definitely will stick out against the frame. I've attached a photo so others can see the coloring.
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I’m trying to send my back but once again the crappy customer service of Massdrop has not responded to my email from a week ago. Massdrop you need to give a phone number for people to get help. Your email service is very poor.
hsdrggr
I noticed the same thing the next morning. I thought they shipped the wrong knife. I compared it with my bronze TB Prism and they were identical. It's funny, I swear my Prism had the more yellow/gold tone like the web photo's a few days ago???
How to get a new pocket clip for my falcon? I had the orginal pocketclip they changed and it lasted for two weeks. The knife is still being used everyday just without the clip. I was just wondering how I could get a new one. Any answers will be appreciate. Thanks
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Thanks man
Yep, I snagged a Pop’s for my falcon awhile back. One of the best clips I’ve used on any of my folders over the last 20 years. Not to mention it’s a ridiculous improvement over the stock clips on the falcons!
Just an anxious Canadian waiting for his knife.
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Lawdy this black on black look is even prettier than my original version. The wing look is nice but it didn’t sway me as I absolutely love the blade style and the whole knife in general. Still, I am holding out for a 3.4-3.5" version to come out 1 day. I love my Falcon but prefer to EDC bigger blades for the reason I carry it. I have been impressed with the recent changes with the Falcon, Crux, and now the Gent. I am trting to figure out a way to get the Gent in rosewood. It’s so damn beautiful. Lol
TRexSr
I second that; a falcon with a longer blade would be fantastic!
TRexSr
I agree, I finally decided to spend more on a knife than I ever had, then saw the size. On a knife this small I'm afraid my pinky is sure to be hanging off the end and I just can't have that =o) If I longer version of this comes out, I'll probably be getting it.
I am very pleased with my bronze Falcon Wing. It’s a beautiful knife and like my Falcon from the first run it opens easily via flipper or the thumb hole.
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I think I might prefer the Massdrop logo on the original though.
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Is there a way to loosen the flip detente?
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FHP3
You don’t want it looser. The strong lock up is one of the best things going for this knife. It doesn’t loosen up that much, or at least it shouldn’t, regardless of repeated fidget flicks. I’ve had the second gen for a few months now and have flicked and worked it extensively. The liner lock is rigid for a reason: it forms a strong, reliable lockup. At this price point it’s a no brainer to get a knife that has a pretty solid/smooth flick opening with a chunky liner lock that gives a good degree of strength. I wouldn’t say it translates to a fixed blade by any means, but I’d gladly trade a little smoothness of opening to a stronger lockup in a package that easily fits in literally any pocket unobtrusively.
pendle616
I agree. With liner locks and frame locks, a tight lock is much better than a loose one. There's less of a chance of accidentally releasing the lock while gripping it tightly. But I guess this one has a flipper that keeps it from closing on your hand. So a loose lock is more of an inconvenience than a safety concern.
I’d just placed an order last night for these, reading through the comments I’m a little confused? Are they currently in the warehouse still and shipping out shortly , or do I still wait till the end of June for drop to end and product to ship middle of July? Thanks
As an update, my Wing landed this morning - perfectly centred, although I did wipe the whole thing down to get the oil it had shipped with off.
The one thing I didn't expect was that the clip screws would be a) structural and b) differing lengths. I couldn't get the second screw to go back into the handle after taking the clip off, as it's longer than the hole is, and I didn't dare risk switching the screws around (especially since the shorter one is the one that won't go in all the way), so it's not quite as solid in the back as it was when the clip was attached.
I'll carry it like this a few days to see how it works - if the clip held it deeper in the pocket, I might have kept it on.
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Edit - I put the clip back on, as the backspacer feels like it's sliding against the scale a bit without that second screw. And the second screw won't go down more than halfway without the clip, so....
NewHass
I just had to switch around a clip on my Crux, I want to say the order was long screw in the back clip hole, short screw in the non-clip side, and the medium screw in the forward clip hole.
It took me a few tries to get everything situated properly though.
Omniseed
The problem here is that the long screw is the one in the knife in the above picture - the short screw is still too long to go in all the way as they didn't drill it all out there, assuming that the clip would never come off.
Without that screw, it's loose enough that the scale can slide against the backspacer when you grip that part of the knife.
It's annoying to have to either carry it high in the pocket or have the clip in the watch pocket poking at things, but I don't have much choice at the moment.
Hi everyone, We’re checking in to let you know the Massdrop x Ferrum Forge Falcon Wing Edition is making its way through production! Check out the photos below to see the Wing being fitted and assembled:
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We’re on track to meet our estimated ship date of June 29, and we’ll update everyone in mid June with the status of the shipment.
AveryC
how can I get one those prototypes?? :-)
How do we know MassDrop is going to send out the knife that they are advertising on here? I was just duped by MassDrop on the last order, not sending the product which they listed. How can you and I be sure this isn't going to happen again?
trailblazzr
Mostly because we wouldn't still be around after almost eight years if we were in the business of "duping" people. It sounds like you had an unlucky experience, and I'm sorry to hear that. We do successfully ship tens of thousands of items to millions of members on a regular basis - but mixups do happen in fulfillment. If you haven't already, please contact support by going to Transactions in your member profile and clicking the Contact Support button below the relevant transaction: https://www.massdrop.com/transactions
Ordered Bronze. This is what came. This looks like the standard gray? Anyone else get a bronze that is not bronze at all? Not even a hint of bronze. Pretty disappointed.
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Just as a follow up, I sent it back - but I wanted to mention that while it took a rather long time, Massdrop support has otherwise been great. I read a lot of negative comments about Massdrop so I though that was important. They've been more than fair, courteous, understanding and helpful the whole time, which makes me more confident in using Massdrop in the future as well.
Mkd9042
Yup! I didn't notice it initially. I compared it to my TB Prism the next morning and their tones were identical.
I love the blacked out version too. I think it will prove to be harder to find in the future than the satin blades (maybe.) Good collectors item. I love big beefy tactical knives. This will be a new experience for me. Looking forward to an easier experience in the pocket.
GeorgeMX
If you like beefy tactical type knives, this will be a very welcome change of pace for you, but also won't be a big departure from your preferences either. The Falcon does have a long break-in period, it's a very smooth knife though.
Omniseed
Just received it. Your 100% right. Working on getting used to small knife.
The blade is beautiful. Love its curves. I am surprised that I am not crazy about the winged design on the scale. Maybe in the future it will grow on me. If not. Maybe I will have a custom scale made.
I see a lot of criticisms about the Falcon's sub 3-inch blade length, but in quite a few areas, the maximum legal carry length is 3 inches. That's one of the reasons that Spyderco Delica 4s and Native 5s are so popular -- they're also very good knives, but local legalities play a part as well.
I think that a stretched handle/longer bladed wing pattern handle version without adding too much weight (Raven or Eagle?) would do quite well, but the Falcon design also has value, even if it's not the knife for you. There's nothing wrong with asking about something different, but my experience has been that politely worded requests are usually received more favorably.