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Massdrop x Peak to Plateau Yakino Wool Sweater

Massdrop x Peak to Plateau Yakino Wool Sweater

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Hi Everyone! We’re so excited to announce this new drop in partnership with Peak to Plateau: The Yakino sweater and accompanying beanies and neckwarmers. All are made from the same yarns, a new blend of 50% yak wool and 50% merino wool, what we're calling yakino. We’ve been working with Peak to Plateau for months now to develop the concept of a yak wool sweater than offers the highest technical performance in wool and looks great for around town. Peak to Plateau founder Stefan Warnaar has been working with Tibetan families mostly in the Quinghai region of the Tibetan Plateau which is around 3000m+ high in elevation, where the yaks withstand harsh conditions like sleet and snow. Fiber collection happens once a year in the region in late Spring/early Summer, making securing these yarns challenging. Once collected, the yarns are dehaired to separate the coarse fibers from the finer fibers, which only produces about 15% usable fibers from the original harvest.  What makes yak wool great as compared to merino is that it’s up to 40% warmer, 66% more breathable, 17% faster at pulling water away from your skin, softer and just as strong at wicking and odor resistance. These are offered in unisex sizing, so women will want to size down one size when purchasing. Thanks! Kim 
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Thanks for clearing that up for me. Its always hard for me to buy clothes without trying them on, I always seem to be inbetween sizes.
Gunnersmate2
I totally understand and am the same way. Just let me know if there's anything else I can help with. We have the medium here and I can always take photos on different people in the office, take videos, anything to help!
Frustrating that the beanie and neck warmer are not available for order at the same time, even though it is mentioned on the sales text.
Just wanted to throw my experience in here. I ordered a small and they run really large. The sleeves are fine, but it's very wide. I'm not a large guy (5' 8", 140lbs), but this is a pretty large sweater. Massdrop won't help at all with exchanges. They just keep parroting their no refunds or exchanges policy for group buys at you, regardless of this being an "In Stock" and "Massdrop Made" item. I want to like this sweater, but since wearing it makes me look like I took my dad's sweater, I'm going to have to find someone to gift it to. Definitely won't be buying another sweater just to be able to wear it.
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Would love to have purchased one, unfortunately the XS is still too big :(
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How do I get the add-on option to work? I would like to add the neck warmer for $20 more.
BReal38
I believe you now have to purchase the neckwarmer separately through it's own separate drop.
Purchased two XL and they are too small (1 grey/blue and 1 blue/green). Anyone buy the XXL and find it too large and would you want to trade? Or trade for anything else? I would also be open to a purchase offer. Shoot me an email bobby.a.byrne@gmail.com
Disappointed with the sizing. Most descriptions in this discussion mentioned the sweaters fit larger than expected. I found the opposite. I'm 6'1" around 230lbs with rounded midsection (not fat but not slim). I bought the XL and found that the armpits were a little tight, the sleaves were a little too short, and the waist was slightly too small. I normally wear a large or XL depending on the brand, but typically the XL is loose. Here I would need an XXL if it didn't shrink at all after washing.
I thought that PtP was a rather young company. How come they are trying to sell a stock of ugly sweaters that were obviously made in the eighties?
I have received and already worn my sweater. It is great and I love it. I hope more color options become available and perhaps a hoodie design.
Anyone able to give their opinion on durability? I was waiting to hear from people before buying. I won't be doing anything wild with this sweater but for $100 it better last years if I give it proper laundry care.
Saucy_Puppet_Show
It should last very well with proper care. We were very careful with the stitching details to ensure they are very strong, so as long as you don't get any holes in the knit (like with any knit garment) it should perform very well.
Be sure and read abela's post before buying this. I'm not a sweater guy, so there was little chance of having my mind changed.
Mine came yesterday, and I must say I really like this sweater. The design is nice, minimalist but not plain. It's quite warm, but breathes well so as not to make you hot or sweaty. I wore it under a wind breaker today in relatively cool weather and was warm the entire time. It's pretty soft, not cashmere soft, but that's to be expected - it's certainly softer than a regular wool sweater. The sizing is a little big, but not that much. I got a medium and if I had to guess the size without knowing, I'd guess "Medium". All in all, pretty happy so far.
Smeagel
Great to hear! Thanks so much for sharing your feedback. Much appreciated!
I just received the medium blue and green and is too big for me and they won’t let me return it. Anyone hear in need of this size and color?
What's with these fuddy duddy colors?
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Thanks for the suggestions! Love the ideas!
bin31z
I think the Gray/Blue and Gray/Red look good but you're right the Blue/Green hurts my eyes
Athletic fit?
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Thanks a million. Just placed my order. Cheers!
climbthemtns
Would love to hear how it works out!
Is the sweater machine washable?
kornwall
Yes, either hand or cool delicate machine wash. Any gentle/wool cycle on your machine will be fine.
Hey all, I have had the oppertunity to test out the sweater for the last couple of weeks, and thought I would share my thoughts. First, a bit of background... I have been testing outdoor Yak wool garments pretty much since they hit the market, from most of the brands out there (very very few) that have released outdoor Yak wool garments, including Peak to Plateau and Kora, the two most well known brands. I have over 1,000 days of wearing different garments from those two companies. So, all that to simple say, I have tried out pretty much all of the different 100% Yak wool, and blended Yak-&-whatever-fabric garments out there. I used the very first Peak to Plateau garments (from their kickstarter campaign) to their second generation fabrics (Yak+Eucalyptus) and now this latest Yak+Merino blend. Kora, the premier Yak wool garment maker in the market, switched to using Yak wool + Merino wool a couple years ago for their higher-end garments. They, as PtP discovered, realized that 100% Yak wool was just too susceptible to fiber break down. I am not sure why PtP decided to go the route of Yak+Eucalyptus for their second generation, instead of just going with Yak+Merino, my guess is a cost issue, but it is really nice to see them finally make the switch to using Merino wool, so, huge props to Massdrop for their involvement in making that happen! So, backstory explained, what are my thoughts on the Massdrop x Peak to Plateau Yakino Wool Sweater? I like it. It is a really clean looking garment. I have started wearing it as an around-town garment. Unlike most other 'outdoor' garments, which are designed more for performance than looks, this really is a nice looking garment. Oh, btw, I got the 'Gray/Black/Red' version. I am not usually a "striped" garment kind of guy, but this is a clean enough design that I have enjoyed wearing it around town. The previous PtP garment, the Yak+Eucalyptus version, was a really soft to the touch fabric, but this new Yak+Merino version feels even softer on the skin. What is sweet is that they have gone with a 50/50 blend. That is uncommon, even for PtP, which used a 65% Yak / 35% Eucalyptus in their current line-up of garments. Kora, on their blended garments, uses 70% Merino / 30% Yak wool. By going with a 50/50 blend it should mean that the garment will be a lot less likely to break down during washing of the garment, which is the big killer of Yak wool garments. One thing to note is that this garment is not a tightly woven garment. This makes for a softer garment, a more luxurious garment, a slightly stretcher garment (which can be good if you need a non-athletic style garment ;), but on the downside is that the garment will let in more air, and not be as warm as a garment with a tighter woven design, and may (?) be more susceptible to thread pulling (??), not an issue that I have had with mine in the last couple of weeks, but maybe over time. So, would I use this out on the hiking trail? Nah, probably not. While the 50/50 blend is really nice, the amount of air that flows through the garment just seems to nullify any thermal aspects that might be gained by the blend mix of wools, as great as they are. But, for a nice around town garment that looks really good, that can be worn over just about any shirt, even a nice dress shirt, to help add a bit of warmth, and still look good, yep, perfect situation for this garment. Totally worth buying for mild-weather conditions, and/or around town, but not for out on the trail in colder conditions. All in all, I am really liking mine. If you are somebody that likes super soft around the town shirts, and made of unique fabrics, that looks really good, and hey, at $100 bucks, awesome price for a nice shirt, I'd say go ahead and hit that "Join drop" button and pick up one of these.
abela
Very balanced and informative review, thank you. I have skipped the Kickstarter campaign out of fear that who knows if the quality will be good, then after seeing the backers feedback bought the post Kickstarter several base layer variants plus neck warmer and beanies for me and my wife, then was so pleased with fantastic quality of the 100% Yak that bought even more! I agree that 100% Yak is more fragile but if you are careful, it works excellent. Me and my wife never had any issues, besides single little hole made by one of our dachshunds. 100% Yak is amazing! Still curious to try this variant. The stripes are an excellent match to their Yak socks I have backed on Kickstarter. I can say only the best things about PtP high standards and excellent customer service. Keep up the good work! Cheers!
abela
I appreciate your website, reviews, and that you took the time to post this on MD. I have the beanie/neck warmer from the last run, and they are still going strong. I'd have purchased this blind, hoping to use it as a nice 2nd layer for cold weather hiking/backpacking, if it wasn't for this review. I feel that the beanie is too thin for me to be thermally efficient in colder weather, and the wind whips right through it. When paired with the neck warmer, however, as a sort of Balaclava setup, it's worked really well for me to keep my ears warm. I was worried that the sweater would be the same way, and that I'd have to always wear my 250 merino layer under it for it to work the way I wanted it. Nothing against the quality of the items, though, as mine have both held up well, and I even bought a second set for the old hag that lives with me! They've been great for around town, and at work.
I wish there were a toned down pattern, the stripes just kill it for me personally. Which is too bad because this looks like a great option for an intermediate layer for chilly to cold weather hikes.
Atomkinder
Not a fan of the stripes either but having PtP Yak socks in exactly this design style from Kickstarter I can see it as a very cool match 😎
Is there a retail price on this to give us an idea of the savings or is this retail price?
climbthemtns
This is a "Massdrop x..." so, no, it is a custom collaboration with Massdrop and the "x...." company.
climbthemtns
Most yak wool mid-layers start at around $250 but can climb even higher. This is mostly due to the availability of the yarns and the small yield after dehairing.
Is the beanie and neck warmer the same yak and Merino material?
Ghirsch80
Yes, they are all using the same yarns
Can you clarify the sizing chart? The Chest measurement seems way off? I have 43" chest and 29 sleeve
SafetyChuck
The chest measurements shown are on the half. So double that spec to get the full chest.
What weight of yarn? Is this for COLD weather?
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I would not, in any way, say that the sweater is a "cold weather" garment. The threading is not a tight threading, air blows right through it. That said, it is a really dang nice looking, and super comfortable, around-town kind of garment. And, as Stefan said, if you have a next-to-skin and L1 underneath it, it can be used as a thermal layer, but the L1 would need to be something that will block wind.
abela
I have to confess Abela that I am finding your reasoning about cold weather a bit difficult to follow. Are you basically saying that it's not a softshell, or that it's not even a very warm fleece? Most of my midlayers aren't windproof and I would not expect to go out in really cold weather just wearing a jumper. Or are you saying that even with a shell on top and a base layer, you are still going to need another insulating layer?
Is it available to Canadian customers? Can't seem to get the "Join" button to clear?
Kayakcam
Yes we are offering shipping to Canada
where are these made?
badaboom4293
They are made in China
badaboom4293
IIRC... there are only two factories in the world that can work with Yak wool at this level of yarn, and both are located in China.
Can I just order beanie?
Miv06
Not on this drop, but we will be setting up a separate drop for the beanies and neckwarmers, but that timing is TBD on when it will launch. Soon though!
Please include the height/weight of the pictured model along with what size he is wearing. Thanks.
Saucy_Puppet_Show
Sure! He's 5'10", 160 lbs and is wearing the size Medium