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NiZ Plum84 Pro Electro-Capacitive Keyboard

NiZ Plum84 Pro Electro-Capacitive Keyboard

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Just recently had this keyboard die, about a year after I got it on Massdrop. Reached out to NiZ, but doesn't look like they're offering any help on the matter so be warned. Keyboard spent it's whole life at my desk. I've seen a few other people report this issue, plugged in, or unplugged, keyboard won't respond or light up.
Love this one, been using it for probably like 2 years now. To those saying you need 45g, you could be wrong. Due to how these switches activate, 35g might not feel as you expect. Worth a try.
My only gripe: the delete key doesn't work right anymore. Often doesn't register a press.
First, I'd like to state what similar keyboards I own for a frame of reference - I own an HHKB Pro2 (lubed/silenced) and I own a Realforce RGB (lubed/silenced) and I own a Filcco Majestouch Convertible (silent blacks).
My favorite out of the bunch is of course the HHKB, This keyboard, however, is my new daily driver in the office. HHKB, I now use in my home office. This baby types like a dream and it's nothing like I felt before. I was skeptical about the 35g domes but they are very very pleasant to type on. Topres are nothing like MX switches. A MX switch at 35g sounds like a nightmare. I would make so many typing mistakes with accidental accuations. With Topre, the tactile or resistance is at the top (due to the dome), you really dont make any mistakes. So you get the mistake free typing of a heavy tactile switch but with the anti-fatigue of a light tactile. It's amazing.
I admit I was a bit of a brand snob but I highly recommend this keyboard. It's got all the bells and whistles of a modified topre board at a fraction of the cost. Lubed? Check. Silenced? Check. Thick PBT caps? Check (1.5mm). Bluetooth? Check. MX keycap compatible? Check.
I usually mod all my boards but found that I didnt have to with this. The only "mod" I did was reverse the spacebar (that's a preference of mine and it also hides the NIZ brand).
alltheRaije
Bluetooth? Are you talking about another keyboard?
hyperlinked
Ah I have the bluetooth version. Exact same keyboard but with bluetooth.
https://www.nizkeyboard.com/product/2018-new-arrival-84-bluetooth-usb-ec-keyboard-with-rgbnon-rgb/
Odd that Massdrop went with the one with the lower actuation force instead of the one that was more popular and would sell better (45g).
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Yes.
No. Or yes. Depending on what you mean. Imagine a graph of force required to push the switch down (vertical axis) vs distance the switch has been pressed (horizontal axis). Adding the spring will shift the graph upwards, while having a heavier dome would change the shape of the graph.
Compared to cherry silver and reds, these are quick, quiet, and soft, reminds me of rubber-domes... I really like this and prefer it over the cherry switches. I'm adjusting to the F-row keys. Some times looking down to find the right one. So I thought to make some form of training-wheels for myself, by cutting some rubber sport-grip-tape and placing it on F1 and F4 keycaps, just the surface. It seems to help. Shipped 6w early. Anybody have the manual for some of the less obvious function combos? update: found someone's translation of the manual, link is in my review
How hard is it to find keycaps for this?
airstrike
It has cherry mount sliders so not hard at all.
airstrike
Everything should be trivial to replace except the space bar.
Isn't this the same thing as a choc mini noppoo?
Maebli
This uses electrostatic capacitive switches, which are very similar in feel to topre - some even prefer it (myself included). The noppoo, as far as I know, comes with cherry switches. So, while the body might be the same, the switches, feel and sound are entirely different.
Which software is used to program it? Is it compatible with the QMK firmware (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware)?
Warning: the sliders are very tight fitting and can lead to cracked keycaps. I put on a set of Maxkey SA and ended up with 3 cracked stems.
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RaymondLu
Just read this, too late though. Broke three jelly key stems. O_O
nut_delivery
Rip
Got this board early this year and have really been enjoying it. The low actuation pressure takes some getting used to, but I got there and really enjoy the feel of typing on it. Its a perfect size for people who want a compact board but still want the function keys.
My only complaint is that the spacebar is basically impossible to replace if you want to swap keycaps.
If anyone has gotten this or any Plum Niz board to work well with a mac I'd greatly appreciate your help. I haven't had much help at all from the company other than the same instructions over and over. Basically similar to the other complaint of keyboard not recognized so remapping won't work even through native macOS sysPref
devX
What issues are you having? I had none getting it to play nicely with my 2016 MBP. It was recognized quite readily by MacOS and I use Keyboard Maestro to remap to my heart's content.
Where do you get the software for this keyboard? I have one already and I try to use it and it says "Keyboard not connected" even though it is. Its listed under windows devices and I'm typing on it right now.
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Thank you. I tried the randombits one. I downloaded your copy as well and it has the same issue. I have the same problem on my laptop as well, both are running Windows 10, so maybe that has something to do with it. I emailed NIZ to see what they say
Parkaboy
This is so odd! I just tried mine with my software, mk is recognized, "read all" does provide my settings, but altering those and "write" it to the mk isn't saved, no failure message. I'm running Win10, too.
Mehhh why can't they make a nice 66% keeb. Their 60+ has odd layout with shift key as an arrow and short nearly unreplacable spacebar. While this keyboard's layout is good it would look much cleaner without function row. I don't understand why they could not make their 60+% version like this...
pretty sure selling just different weighted domes would net a fair amount of people.
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RaymondLu
What's weird is that they make the bluetooth version of this in 45g. I have one.
Plum boards are available in 45g. I don't understand why MD never runs that option. You can also buy aftermarket domesheets for them of 55g and 62g domes.
Some thoughts that, even with higher prices I think would make Niz more productive during their drops are adding different dome weighting options and dropping their current lineup with the bluetooth and RGB options. Apparently their business model is pretty good, they've been at it for years, but imho you've got to listen to the community and fix the spacebar length on the alternate layouts.
zadok
Well, besides the Tenkeyless and Full-Size boards, which have normal-sized spacebars. I'm typing this on the Pro 87.
how can i make this bluetooth?
droop
or will the bluetooth version ever be sold here?
droop
I'd just get one straight from niz, I'm in the US and got mine in less than a week. Plus they sell 45g ones on their site.
What does "fully programmable" mean? Are all the keys re-mappable?
elFick
Yeah using the kinda mediocre software they've got you can change any key to be anything.
Sheeepman
Thanks!
Are BKE domes compatibles with this board?
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Popping in just to add to this. I had the same problem. The domes are incredibly hard to align and the PCB doesnt work 100% the same afterward.
When I first got this keyboard for work, I was accidentally typing g, f, j and k all the time just because my fingers were there and the sensitivity was so extreme it was hard not to type unexpectedly. The one I got came with little springs that could be added under the keys to add to the force necessary to strike them. I put one spring under each key in the "home row" and left the others alone. That took care of the problem.
This is now the best keyboard I have ever used. It is not silent, but it is very quiet and friendly sounding. My typing speed has gone up about ten words a minute as well. I was looking for another one for at home but they were always over $150. I finally got a great deal on an eBay resold Massdrop keyboard instead, that had the same key configuration, but with brown cherry mx key switches. I don't like those quite as well but the letters on the keys of that keyboard light up and I like that a lot since that keyboard sits on a shadowed shelf in a dimly lit room .
So, this keyboard ultimately led me to Massdrop, and now it is being offered for sale here. I find that oddly satisfying.
Has anybody done a slider swap with a Realforce and a Plum board as both the jtk and kbdfans sliders are so bad they're unusable.
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What kind of keycaps are those?
Cherry MX compatible but with a 5.5u spacebar. Great!