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Topping DX7s Balanced DAC/Amp

Topping DX7s Balanced DAC/Amp

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Can this device be used with an Android TV box sending the music to the Topping then the Topping connected to my home music system via analog??
Can I use this with my headphones and my powered bookshelf speakers at he same time. If so how do you switch back and fourt, would I need to unplug them as I use the other? And would these be good for very demanding headphones.
Importing to Europe with handling fee, import duty then Vat, means add about 35% and shipping fee if total value of the item. Unless you are after an item not sold in your county and massdrop is The only way of getting that good-eg sennheiser HD6xx - the only way getting hold of this is massdrop and is cheaper than HD 650 with all the added taxes and sipping - then go for it, otherwise try your local dealers/amazon in your country first.
I'm tempted to join this drop to use mainly as DAC. My only question is: are the balanced XLR outputs amped or are they safe to send to an external balanced amp like other balanced DACs do?
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Great, thanks. So basically set in DAC mode whenever I don't want to bother with the on-board amp, correct?
rdodev
Yep, that would do it.
Anyone nows how much customs I have to pay when shipping goes to germany?
maninthehighcastle
I don't know about Germany but last time when I imported something to France there was a customs fee, plus another fee you paid the customs office "for processing the file" (you're basically made to pay for all the paperwork). The two fees and the cost of shipping(!!) were added to the item's price. The final sum was then taxed with 20% VAT. Everything over 50 EUR or so gets the same treatment. Have a look here at the link below, do the math and see if it's worth it to you. http://www.zoll.de/EN/Private-individuals/Postal_consignments_internet_order/Shipments-to-Germany/Duties-and-taxes/Assessment-of-taxes-and-duties/assessment-of-taxes-and-duties_node.html Alternatively you can find the item in EU at Audiophonics for 500 EUR. Considerably more but at least it has a better warranty.
How would the DAC performance of this compare to the D50 and as a whole package, towards the NFB.11/R2R?
profsnow
As per audiosciencereview, it compares very well (almost identical performance).
If someone can help me out... I am thinking about getting this for my 6xx headphones for my pc to use for gaming. Is there any lag of any kind for I am really competitive and cant have any kind of lag. Any help would be amazing!!! And or, what is the best DAC I can get for gaming?
lil2poop
I have not noticed any lag. I don't use the DX7s for gaming, but i have found it to be excellent driving my HD650's.
lil2poop
Used it with my PC and now as a standalone headphone AMP in my bedroom with my 6XX and 58X. Never noticed any lag. I have a Creative Titanium HD Audio Card. It sounds fantastic in any configuration but with the 6XX there is a real tangible benefit using the 4 pin XLR balanced cable as it get louder and a little more details. The 58X runs smooth like butter even with stock cable.
I'm a bit new to this and I'm having trouble comparing this DX7s unit with my current LCX. I'm mostly curious rather than seriously looking to buy. What exactly am I looking at?
Edit: Currently using Senn 6xx and Fostex TR-XOO Mahogany :)
Sort of new to this does the cable that came with my 6xx’s plug right into this Or do I need to buy diffrent cable? What are other good dac’s I have the 6xx’s and rokit 6’s?
Dramz
It takes a 1/4" or balanced 4 pin xlr. 4 pin xlr provides superior results with my headphones(it drops the noise floor). Its a decent product can be a little finicky playing native dsd you have to use jriver or foobar and you have to adjust the settings in both to play natively. I had an issue and had to install the drivers several times, this is more likely a problem with my laptop though. This is only an issue if you use the usb input, its a non issue using optical bit you are limited to 24 bit. It's nice to have the remote, I bought one online separately.
Does anyone know if the signal output is sent from the XLRs and Phono jacks at the same time? I'd like to use the XLRs for the main amplifier, and the Phono out to a subwoofer amplifier.
Infrasonik
I would like to know this as well
Infrasonik
Yes. It is. Both output are on at same time.
Is anyone here using the DX7s with any of the Rendu devices (micro or Ultra)? if so, are you able to play DSD512?
lcd
I directly wrote to Topping to have news about the warranty
Here is the answer: Topping will apply warranty but you'll have to send them in China the faulty unit at your own expenses
So far this drop is not for me
Just read Ginpo236's post. The lack of support from Massdrop was surprising. I have never heard of a new audio component being sold without a manufacturer's warranty of some sort. If that is the case, then there should be more disclosure
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Pretty much its only 30 days. I had a problem with an e-mu teak headphones' cable within 3 months of purchase. I contacted Massdrop support and they told me "Sorry, there is nothing we can do." I contacted Mr Chan (Manufacturer) and he sent me a new cable, but out of warranty.
Artifiz
Thanks for your message. There is a warranty card listed in the accessories for this product if you buy it on the Amazon website but no mention of it here as far as I can tell.
Good try massdrop, but I'm not going to give up hope on another drop for the D50, sorry.
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Yeah same here. I'm a believer of the principle of single responsibility. In other words, I rather have two devices that each does one thing excellently than one does both half-assedly (sic).
The D50 is not a balanced Dac like the DX7s is. The DX7s has two chipset one for every channel. If u interested on balanced if not even D50 does the job.
I just received my shipping confirmation!
I'll be using this DAC for my KRK Rokit 5 studio monitors. I've read that if I set it to HP + Line-out mode, I can control volume, but my question is, will it effect audio quality? Like if I set to HP + Line-out mode will the audio quality be lower than what I get with line-out only mode? Please help me out here guys.
Can anyone explain me those PCM filters included into the Topping DX7s: Mode 1 Apodizing fast roll-off filter Mode 2 Minimum phase slow roll-off filter Mode 3 Minimum phase fast roll-off filter Mode 4 Linear phase slow roll-off filter Mode 5 Linear phase fast roll-off filter Mode 6 Brick wall filter Mode 7 Correction minimum phase fast roll-off filter
What does each one? Which one should i use ? Is there a best one ?
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Ill start reading. Thank you for the reply <3
Apodizing filter is the fad these days. That’s probably why it’s the default option though the differences between the filter settings are quite subtle. You have to listen deep and long enough to pick them out. I find #5 Linear phase fast roll off to be the most forward sounding and fatiguing and #7 the least digital and most organic sounding. Listen to songs with lots of kick drums and electric guitar solos and avoid modern digital music when tuning cos digital music supposed to sound.. digital anyway.
NO WARRANTY AFTER 30 DAYS:
Mine stopped working after about 60 days.
See email from Massdrop below.
Hilary L. (Massdrop Community Support) Aug 26, 3:28 PM PDT Hi Ben, Thanks for reaching out to Massdrop Community Support, this is Hilary and I am happy to help you today! I am very sorry for my delayed response. I'm sorry to hear your having problems with your Topping. It looks like this didn't have an included warranty. For products that do not have an included manufacturer's warranty, members have 30 days from the date of delivery to report an issue. For products that include a manufacturer's warranty, members must report an issue within the stated warranty period. After reviewing your transaction, it appears that the time-frame for reporting an issue has passed, which means we are not able to provide a replacement or facilitate a return. Thank you for your understanding of this policy. If we can help you with anything else in the future, please contact us. Best Regards,Hilary
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Ginpo236
I just contacted Massdrop support to know if this drop has the manufacturer legal warranty.
If it has no warranty it is a big risk to buy the Topping on Massdrop
PS: I've checked others products on Massdrop site and unlike these ones, this Topping DX7s defenitively doensn't have the warranty in the paragraph Included
Ginpo236
Seriously???? WTF Massdrop.... Pffff...... Very professional indeed.
It seems as though most people are using this as a headphone amp. Is anyone here using the DX7s as a DAC in a system connected to a preamplifier and speakers? I am looking to connect this to a preamplifier in my 2 channel audio setup.
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I'm excited to try it and compare it to my iFi Micro iDSD BL.
The DX7s has a true balanced DAC with two chipset one every channel. The D50 does not.
I was strongly considering buying one of these until I saw that the output impedance is so high. Most of my headphones have a 50Ω or lower input impedance and won't pair well with the 10-20Ω output impedance of the DX7s.
I was also looking at the Aune S6, but the amp section on that is limited in power output compared to many competitors.
There's also the Jotunheim, but that lacks DSD support. The search for an all-in-one balanced DAC/amp continues.
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Don't own this particularly DAC/Amp but I do have both a 10ohm and 120 ohm SE option on my Cayin amp. With the TH-X00 (similar in specs to the D7000) I get like kind frequency response issues when compared to my other amps with sub 2 ohm OI. The bass isn't as impactful, a touch more bloat and the treble region gets a little more disjointed from the rest of the frequencies. Sadly will have to re-terminate to balanced or pickup a TR-X00 to be able to compare the 10 ohm SE and .3 ohm XLR outs on the Cayin.
RiflemanFirst
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Has anyone paired this with the Cavalli x Massdrop Liquid Carbon? I have one and was considering using this as a balanced dac paired with that so I can take advantage of the balanced signal.
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Alright well that wasn't specified originally. Also why but this a DAC/Amp when you just need a DAC?
TheProfosist
Because it doesn't matter? I'm asking about this unit not a different one. And how many other balanced dacs do you see out there under 500? If people have a good experience with this pairing then I'd be more than willing to buy a dac/amp combo.
Massdrop: “Hi Manbear. I found this pretty little vixen just for you; the best experience of all time.” Me after a few drinks: “Oh. Interesting. Ugh. Why must this product arrive in my inbox just in time to tempt me into buying right after buying the other thing...” Massdrop: “Buy this amazingness. Mother f$&)$er. You have 4 days and you need it.“ Me: ”Yes, Massdrop. All of my best judgement is gone. This product will shine happiness upon my soul for eternity. I will give my first born child for it.“ Massdrop: “Ok. We’ll get it to you in 78 months.“
Can you control the rear outputs and front separately? or when you plug in headphones does it mute the rear outputs? i want to use the rear XLR for studio monitor and the front XLR or 1/4 for headphones. Obviously when headphones are being used id like to be able to mute the speakers
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TheProfosist
No auto mute function. You can select ouput lineout only/hp only/both via remote control. There are sellers for dx7 remote. But.... With lineout mode, the dx7s send max volume, but with "both mode" , lineout volumn is controlled by hp volumn. I guess you will suffer volume issue evrn if you buy remote.
Gendoh
The remote part isn't true - you can cycle between the three modes by double pushing the main knob/button:
- DAC only (rear output to XLR & RCA, no HP output) - DAC/HP (volume knob controls rear output and HP output) - HP only (rear output muted, volume controls HP output)
a little cumbersome, I switch between DAC and HP modes instead of using DAC/HP mode because of the stark volume difference (I have powered monitors that are very loud if set at headphone volume levels). It takes some getting used to be then it's pretty quick.
I wonder if massdrop should gives us the option to group buy a remote for DX7s. This should come with a remote in the first place
This or the SMSL SU-8? I know this has a built in amp, but the price difference is $180...
There's something about the looks of the DX7 that I just love, really great looking piece of equipment.
Wow. A drop again? Looks like it's famous!
I hear a popping/cracking sound for a split second at the beginning of a song when i changed sample rate from below 384 khz or DSD to 384 khz. Is this normal?
altqq723
Make sure the voltage switch is set to the voltage of your country. I had an amp that did this when it was on 240V and should have been on 120V. I think they ship in 240V mode from the factory.
Av8or1ab
The voltage is right since my country's voltage is 220V.
just opened the package after a week, there is no remote , nor the usb cable? anyone else has the same issue?what should I do?
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Really? That was one of the main reason I bought it :( I’m sure I saw the unit had the remote somewhere?