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Got mine today, Canadian user here. Beware, had to pay 10$ duty fees through Canada Post, get ready to equally pay for the TAXES on it.... On the other hand, just used the device for a little bit. It's as advertised, happy user here :)
I received mine this weekend, and Ispent the last two days listening through it. It feels nice and solid, the sound quality is great, though I haven't used it to drive speakers yet. If I have a complaint, it's about the brightness of the LEDs. The power light was easy enough to correct with a Light Dim, but the power brick has an extremely bright strip, that I eventually turned towards the floor. The light behind the colume knob is also pretty bright as well. I might need to take the front panel off and see what I can do to reduce its brightness. On the whole, it's a great little DAC/amp for $65!
Got mine! Quick question with seasoned users. Using this on my desktop PC, Win 10. When the DAC is powered off, the PC still defaults to send all audio to it, and I have to manually change the default device within windows to switch it back to my regular speakers. I assumed if it was powered off, it would switch pack to the PC soundboard, but doesn't appear to be the case. Do other PC users experience this?
MrCallahan
I noticed that if I select one output it'll stick with it. So when I select the Topping, it's the device that gets used next time I boot. I also have an Asus Xonar Essence STX soundcard, and if I select that, it's the default next time I boot. Win 10 makes it really easy to switch between devices though, so that's nice.
Mastermung
Yeah, it's easy enough to switch, was hoping Win 10 or the driver would be smart enough to go in a disabled state when the Topping is powered off.
Will this work with Simple Audio Listen and the HD6XX?
Swede
Since those are powered speakers, yes. As to the Senns, also Yes.
Swede
On HD6XX, for most people these will be fine. For anal people (like me), the power output is quite a bit short.
Would this have enough power for my old Technics surround speakers? here is a website with the info. i think it wont, but it shouldn't hurt to ask. I have two that came with a center speaker (was to upgrade a 2.1 to a 5.1 shelf system in the 90s) the back of the speaker says 8 Ohms 10w music, 40w din http://www.vintagetechnics.audio/showitem.php?id=YToyOntpOjA7czo2OiJzYi1zMjkiO2k6MTtzOjEyOiJsb3Vkc3BlYWtlcnMiO30=
Mokaphyyr
No. This will only work with powered speakers (speakers that have a built-in amplifier of their own), or headphones.
Mokaphyyr
The TP30 will power passive speakers, although given the merger output, you'd want to use high sensitivity speakers.
Lol 140mw into 32 ohms? whats the output impedance of the amp? they dont list the more useful specs... Would advise you do not purchase.
Does this work well with Apple computers?
rwpoon
I agree. It would be nice to know if anyone has hooked this up to their Apple computer. It would be equally useful to know if anyone has hooked up an iPhone, via an OTG cable. The specs only indicate Android compatibility. So, if anyone on here has tried these, please post.
ChooseToRide
I am running it off of my iMac. Guess I didn't CLEARLY mention that as my primary source of input in my review you'll find below. (it's down there, but buried, sort of, I guess.)
Better edit that, SORRY GUYS!
Did do a BRIEF trial off my iPhone... but as iPhones don't need a DAC, and I don't see this as a portable that you'd strap to a mobile device, I didn't really do much with it. Used a 3.5 pin to RCA's for my interconnect.
I had this unit. When connected as USB DAC there was noise from the speakers which was quite audible. Noise goes away when RCA in was used. So my unit had issues with DAC function. So i returned it
So, I've had the TP30-Mk2 for oh, about 2 months now. Giving it a reasonable run-in time, comparison plays between the multiple sets of headphones that I own, tried several sets of iem's with it as well. I thought I'd toss out a bit of a review, in case they wake up this drop again.
SOURCE ; iMac playing iTunes via Songbird FLAC and lossless and Apple Lossless.
Headphones used; Beyerdynamic DT770's--T1 Teslas, both v.1 and v2 Did NOT trial the 600 ohm DT880's at all, the T1's were just tried to see if they could be driven at all... they were, but not particularly well. Sennheiser 600, 650,(chosen for their specific sound sig, which I prefer over the "better" Senns), Grados. Almost every version of the Grado. All the way from the PHENOMENAL original RS1. Massdrop X Fostex THX00 mahogany. Audeez, Stax, HiFiman, just to see if this thing could push magnaplanars. Not So Much, although there was some noise coming from the HiFimans, just not great, so we'll not mention them again... IEMs; NuForce Primo 8, MEE Pinnacle P1, Shure 535's, Etymotic,(various), RHA T20, Echobox Finder x1, a couple of the Sennheiser IEM offerings, and the Beyerdynamic idx160. A couple of Westones. NOT going to discuss every set of sounds per eargear item here, as it's tedious and not always helpful to other sets of ears than my own, but will give an OVERALL sense of how these appreciate the various sound sigs represented by my fairly eclectic range of eargears chosen. I tend to prefer 'phones that offer a more neutral, flat, "clinical" presentation of the musics, maybe lean more toward mid and high-rangers with a SMOOTH, present, but not heavy or bloomy bass. Much of that is per my music preference for classical music, I guess. One can use equalizers to play with sig, and I like the more accurate representation of what was originally recorded better than phones which colour the music in any one direction. NOTE- I don't own AKG. I am not a massive fan of the AKG sound, so prefer to spend my cash elsewhere, it's not a political statement in any way. OTHER NOTE- I did not examine the ability to play speakers, as my speakers are hard to drive and need a high-power amp like a Carver to drive them. The specs imply that the amp could drive passive bookshelf speakers adequately.
Comparison equipment; JDS Labs The Element. Schiit Fulla 2. Schiit Modi 2. A couple of iBassos. Stuck to DAC/amps in the class bracket and that were solid state, as comparing it against tube amps isn't really just, they are 2 very different experiences. Kind of Music chosen; Lots of classical with much strings, voice, Beethoven through Bernstein and Glass. Lots of electronic music a la Wollo, Boddy, Roach, Serrie, etc. Much Leo Kottke guitar happiness, with some Bluegrass and Appalachian schtuff tossed in. Classical piano. Silk Road Ensemble. Popular and Rock, from Joplin to Foo Fighters to Neil Young to classic Santana, to The Killers to Maroon 5 and so on. Jazz and Blues , Muddy Waters, early Severin, Puente. I don't really do Rap, Dub, or Hip-Hop, although I did run a little Black Eyed Peas and Outkast through it. My musics were chosen to represent the spectrum and check out what this DAC/Amp offers in the way of clarity, speed, presentation of details and ability to translate input from my iMac running Lossless, FLAC, Songbird et al from iTunes, and several streaming services, as I believe that this is the purpose for which most buyers... buy.
The Meat; The is the summary, the overall take away, the mean/average result of my cross-gear listen; after you read this you could, essentially, skip the more detailed review following and have a good sense of how I appreciated this DAC/amp and whether it's worth buying, especially if on a budget, and how well it turned out in my assessment. More conversational than techie-speak... I found the Topping TP30 Mk2 to be a very responsive, accurate DAC/amp that offers a pretty crisp, sparkling-yet-smooth presentation of the various musics used in the audition. It's a really NICE entry-level DAC/amp for those just entering the world of higher end audio listening with a nice price-point and looking for an excellent all-arounder as their first/early choice for a DAC/amp. It has great portability, but I found it best used on my desktop for stationary listening as I either work with my photography images or just sit back to LISTEN to the music. Kind of BULKY for strapping to an iPhone and carrying around, it's rather obviously meant for table-top use. It also LOOKS nice, which I personally think is part of the audiophile experience. It's satin-y smooth, tactile, and the interfacing was easy, easy to set up, easy to find the toggles, knob, buttons. The jack-port is the 3.5, which makes it an immediate attractant to IEM's use. I personally would prefer a 1/4 incher, as I am more of a cans fan, and don't really like adding adaptors to my audio stream. It faired well against the JDS Labs and The Schiit equipments, but I appreciated a bit more detail and "presence", a bit more speed, with the others and feel the higher-end qualities represented with the JDS and Schiits, especially returning again and again to The Element as a preferred experience. The TP30 does a very nice job of presenting detail to many of the electronic musics heard,(which is what I think solid state DAC/amps do very well, as opposed to live and organic), it showcases the tricky and intricate noises and rhythmics that sequencer electronics generate, especially with pieces by Boddy and Serrie. All those little ear-tickling sounds in the background of their music are healthily presented with this DAC/amp, but not quite as forward as I would like. The sound is clean and fairly crisp, does justice to what I am hearing. With acoustic music, one still hears the little squeaky noises of fingers on strings, one still hears the intake of breath when lungs are involved, and I don't feel that anything is dropped by the amp, yet these sounds are a bit better resolved and present with the other DAC/amps compared. Nothing shrill or harsh in the vocals-especially after a 50-hour run-in time . This is where, if you don't have a better/different device for comparison, you don't feel like you have missed anything in your listening session, it's ALL there. You won't feel like you should have spent more on your DAC/amp, it's a nice little workhorse that can do it all, and quite favourably. A winner at the price, FOR SURE. OKAY. That's the Summary.
I will occupy a new comment box for the nittygritty side-by-side,more DETAIL comparison/review schtuff. After my fingers get their feeling back..... ;)
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TiffanyPoodleslide
"...in case they wake up this drop again." ;)
TiffanyPoodleslide
what do you think about the bass? the bass is much louder than when I plug my earphone on my desktop. I also feel like my desktop gives clearer (but less powerful) sound than this amplifier.
great strarter amp, delivers good sound and the DAC works seamlessly with my PC. its small form factor is nice to work with intergrating it in my desk setup, it works with nearly any color scheme. the slight delay between flipping the swich and turning on doesnt anoy my, it is accualy quite satisfing hearing that relay switching andit turning on. i use the USB DAC but i dont use the auto sleep. i purposely turn it of since my PC is on 24/7.
conclusion. its a GREAT AMP/DAC combo and i will keep it as a portable DAC/AMP even if i get a better one.
i did unfortunately have to pay import tax 26€. quire a bunmer but its still worth it.
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Topping website shows the unit has RCA input http://www.tpdz.net/en/products/tp30mk2/
You may want to contact your seller for clarification
mahee
thanks for the reply! I was wrong.. it was RCA input!
What improvements are there over the previous TP30?
I read that the headphone amp is not driven by the T-amp inside this. It is routed through an op-amp. Something to know if one is interested in this unit mainly to use with headphones
140mw@32 Ohms Is this an amp, for ants?
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Uzuzu
There are plenty of cans that can be driven at this power, it's helpful to understand how this unit works in powering headphones, before one worries about it's ability.
TiffanyPoodleslide
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Should I use this to go along with an audio interface?
ebeegeebe
If you have an xlr microphone then yes I would recommend audio interface it will work as an amp.
any way to disable the blue led on this volume knob for this?
cumlord
A big Hammer would do the trick!
cumlord
A piece of tape, or a sticker off a banana does nicely, one can still see that it's on, but it doesn't damage the retinas any more. ;)
Is this any good for AKG K7xx?
DeSTiNe
yes
How is this compared to my existing focusrite Scarlett 2i2
Sid_india
Anything is better than the headphone out on a usb mic interface
How is this compared to the Schiit Fulla 2
Raiderx
The Schiits are superior in presentation and accuracy. You won't get improved "stage" as that is from the 'phones themselves, but you get better detail with Schiit. I own the Fulla2,(see my review up there), and did a lot of back and forth listening to same tracks.
Guys, you are comparing apples and oranges. This is also a speaker amp. If you want an amp/DAC solely for headphones, there are many better options. If you want an amp/DAC for both speakers AND headphones, and you want a small form factor for simple desktop/computer audio with passive speakers, this amp is a good deal at $79. Oh, Amazon has this for $79 right now, with free shipping. It occasionally falls lower, so put a CCC alert if you want to save another $10-20.
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Honestly, at this price level you probably aren't going to hear much of a difference between various amps/DACs or even your Phone, unless you have some full size headphones. Look at the FiiO E10, Schiit Fulla, iFI nano iDSD (for more, or used), low end Schiit stack, audioquest dragonfly black. There might be more. That said, the topping is probably not bad at all. Monoprice has some decent stuff too, include a tube DAC/amp (116154).
AllanMarcus
Yup - this is a really versatile little amp with USB DAC, good speaker and good headphone output at a really nice price. I first bought a Topping TP30 Mk I about five years ago - was lucky enough to score a second one just as the Mk II was replacing it. If one broke I would buy another for sure. You may think there is better sound to be had from a dedicated headphone amp and possibly there is, but as a desktop that does everything it is great.
There are lots of amps with better specs - but until someone has ABXed and actually found that they can tell the difference, don't bother with a spec sheet. The sound of typing. at the very least, is usually getting in the way of my critical listening :D
I was wondering if anyone knows what price range of headphones are good for these. Like for example if these are appropriate for the Fostex TH-X00 vs the AKG K7XX vs the ATH- M50x or stuff like that.
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Pretty good for driving some passive speakers, had the mark 1 it goes really well for ath m50 headphones, decent for eerything else. The value is what makes it good, might combine this with aune t1 mk2 and see how it goes.
not even worth.. Indonesia sell this $55 ship locally.
Hey guys, Do you think this amp would be good for DT880 250 ohm ?
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Socrates1
It did okay with all of my Beyerdynamics, including the 880, and the T1 Teslas. The 770's are especially fun with this DAC/amp.
770 250 OHM 我剛剛賣掉啦 期待 K7XX
Hey, guys. I'm seriously laughing and shaking my head at this "ten best headphone amplifiers" list that's on the description page.
It sounds like it was compiled by a guy who knows absolutely NOTHING about headphone amps, who poked around the internet for a day, and then compiled this list.
I'm still in for this amp because I've DIY'd this chipset in the past with good results.
But putting this amp in a top ten list? Wow.
I am not sure why this is listed under audiophile category? PCM2704 is no better than your modern smartphone' DAC or even realtek DACs found on laptops. P.S. I do read the spec sheet published before making any comments. The THD of PCM2704 is average.
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Moes
pcm2704 is the worst dac chip.
Moes
I think anything audio equipment is listed in this category, high-end or not.
are these gonna drive the k7xx's well? heard that it's pretty power hungry.
Would this work well to drive a pair of HD598's?
Clayton2k
I do not have this but I will say that if you are strictly looking to drive those headphones, you can also check out the Centrance DACport Slim which is currently available - https://www.massdrop.com/buy/centrance-dacport-slim-amp-dac-combo
That has a very lengthy discussion thread so you may be able to get some answers outside of comparing the listed technical specs on both pages.
Clayton2k
Did well enough with the 600's and 650's, as I comment on my after-drop review. I like Senns better on tube amps, but they present well enough with the TP30. If they re-drop this item, I hope my review will help.