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Aune T1 SE MK3 Headphone DAC/Amp

Aune T1 SE MK3 Headphone DAC/Amp

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Bought it for 15$ more on last drop. If i knew it's gonna be for this price in few months, i still wouldn't wait, because every minute with this thing is priceless
Please excuse what may be ignorant questions.
  1. I own a pair of Massdrop X Fostex TR-X00 Ebony headphones. Would this be a good DAC/AMP combo for my desk at work? If not and someone owns the aforementioned headphones what would you recommend?
  2. What is the difference in the 110V and 220V?
Thanks in advance Massdrop peeps!
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Thanks for the info! Believe it or not....no currently. Just getting in to the premium headphone market and I have an old Fioo portable DAC/AMP. Do you recommend a specific amp for home use that is a little bit more powerful?
Briandaviscfl
Well, I will just tell you what I am doing; Getting an Audio-gd R2R 11, that is now shipping from China, with the plan to pair it later with the cans you currently have, the TR-X00 ebonies.
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Using the Aune T1 MK2 (I believe SE) for a few years now and I have an issue. I'd appreciate any help in determining whether its the DAC/Amp (electronics) at fault or the tube itself (it is the default one that came with it). The issue is simple: I hear crackling sounds on the right channel, its not very loud and it quite depends on what I'm listening to. It seems to occur with higher pitched sounds. I believe it is the tube because when it first occurred, it was only happening for about 10-15 minutes after starting the device (I would always turn it off when I turn off my PC), it would be perfectly fine afterwards. Thus I assume it was the tube warming up and that's why it stopped. However now the issue is no longer at 10-15 minutes of starting up but a permanent one. While I'm at it, I would love a tube recommendation with a link to where I can purchase it. I'm from the EU (Israel) if that matters. I saw the tube rolling thread on Head-Fi of the Aune T1 but its just too much information and it seems that even if I like the description of a tube, I can't seem to find the exact version of it, like there are variation to everything. I can buy from eBay or Amazon and I also saw that TubeDepot has delivery to my country. As far as describing what I like sound-wise, I like the clear tube and I prefer keeping the sound "original". I also prefer open headphones (but sometimes I swap to closed ones) and I like the feeling of an open stage. I don't want to have more bass or basically too much of anything. I suppose balanced and clear is how I would describe what I like. Thanks!
Oneyedrunk
Sounds like the tube is the culprit. An Amperex USN, with perfect numbers like this one, carries the according price, will not disappoint. These are as clear and precise as, well a tube can get... but with the stage and openness present. USN, think subs, think hear/identify them before they hear/kill you... https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-NIB-Amperex-USN-CEP-6922-E88CC-1963-USA-Gold-Pin-US-Navy-Mil-Spec-Tube/113360580686?epid=166830015&hash=item1a64d1304e:g:bugAAOSwFytaMCA2 Used, lower cost, nice test #’s: https://www.ebay.com/itm/One-Military-USN-CHS-6922-Gold-Pin-Tube-By-Sylvania/371739120441?hash=item568d60d339:g:TBkAAOSwmfhX3L5o
rastus
Hey and thank you very much! I made an order about a week ago of Orange Globe Amperex 6DJ8.. PQ. I read a lot about it and it seemed to be highly recommended around Head-Fi for its price. I guess I'll know more once I get it But thanks in any case for your help! :)
@rastus Is the T1 worth getting if I have no intention to upgrade anything besides the tube? I am currently leaning towards this unit, the iFi iTube2, LittleDot mkIII, or DV336SE. Do you have a preference? I want to start with a cheaper option to see how much I like it before plunking down some serious coin going down the rabbit hole.
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Just fyi. USB have built in error-detection. So spending large sums of money on a USB cable is somewhat questionable. If a 0 or 1 doesn't reach one end, it'll go back to the PC/Laptop or w/e you have it hooked up to to get some new ones, which may or may not result in wizardry on the unit its used on. Theres is no benefit from a wellcrafted 20$ USB cable to a 400$ one, other than the 400$ one might look and feel well built. However, you seem to know your thing about NOS tubes, and I do not. I was hoping to pick this up to pair with my 58X Jubilee, Hifiman 4XX's and my pair of HD 650's. I am however, no ready to shell out 400$ for a NOS tube. Is there a middle-ground? EDIT: Updated some terms. English is not my native language ;-)
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Nebby
Hi Nebby, first you are off in understanding music running through USB, the word is isochronous, it’s a one way street, your DAC will mute or substitute previous data for what it sees as bad data, rather than screech or flub. A common misconception. It started with cd’s and the music biz hiding what they did not want you to know. Not so much that the errors/missing data were present, but how bad it could get. The music industry has not the interest nor monetary incentive to correct this misconception. Case in point is MQA; feeding more pap to consumers; ‘good enough for the masses’ ergo; saves us bandwidth = saves us money; licenses for hardware = cherry on top... Tubes... ironically I have spent the last 40 years pushing corpuscules through ether,, or in new terms; electrons through vacuum and gaseous / vapor mediums,, in order to make solid state electronics,, i.e. an ‘electron pusher’. Tubes belonged in my father’s past, he worked for Sylvania. Only in the past few years have I come to appreciate & understand what tubes can bring to audio reproduction. Yes, I thought of them a interesting antiques, I called them hand warmers and room heaters... but I still worked with them for high power RF, until replaced by solid state. We still today repair tube generators, though all new is solid state. Think in terms of tribal knowledge and you can look back in time and see the unique talent in making these valves during the peak period. Most interesting are the collector surface treatments and the ones with un-interrupted mostly smooth transitional, symmetrical surfaces. look at the markets that had the need for the top performing tubes in amplification in the human audio spectrum; military esp. the silent service, subs... hear them first and you might live...USN & JAN; computer and instrument folks - HP & IBM picking only the top; broadcasting - example CBS - Hytron; and of course the audio industry itself just before the solid state transistor, where they were cherry-picking from the best such as Fischer - bugle-boy & PQ amperex for OEM examples. There is not an endless supply left many are forgeries out of China. You may get burned, fact here, but you can enjoy them while we have the true NOS still available to us. I have new 300B Royal Princess and they are beautiful sirens, Sophia also has new $$ 6SN7’s that I hope to eventually try. Westinghouse is starting up the new plant, interested to hear these: http://www.westernelectric.com/products/300b.html I usually do find the bay to have the best deals still, and the dealers list there as well. Tubes w/o measured values,, a real risk, matched values key. Right now off the bay, to be pragmatic, I would buy for the T1: https://www.ebay.com/itm/A-VINTAGE-AMPEREX-6922-BUGLE-BOY-GOLD-PIN-NOS-NIB-VACUUM-TUBE/233039041739?hash=item36423594cb:g:ZZAAAOSwzDBa9PKM
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I'm trying to connect my HIDIZ AP60 II to this as a transport and I'm not getting anything over either the OTG cable I bought, or a standard cable through an A->B adapter. Any idea what I might be doing wrong here?
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Yes. Anything that provides a USB audio signal will play though this.
Gr3y
Asking if your unit simply works... independent of the HD60...
If I use the dac and run it into a schiit valhalla 2 would that work well or would a different dac be a better choice?
XxTinManxX
As a DAC only,, not a great choice, it's real intrinsic value is, as the assemblage that it is; DAC/tube buffer/SS amp.
rastus
That's what I wanted to know. Thanks for the reply. Kinda new to all this.
I've read comments/reviews for about an hour and I'm not finding my answer. Sorry if it has been asked before...
I purchased the first generation Aune T1 offered on Massdrop back in 2014. Is it worth upgrading to this newer model? What will I gain? I've read there may be better USB DAC options for my setup, but the tube is pretty darn cool for the warm sound, and in all honesty I like the aesthetics. I've always wanted to roll tubes, but have also read it doesn't make much difference on the first gen so haven't bothered.
I currently use the T1 purely as a USB DAC from my office workstation which then runs to my amp via RCA. This drop's price is definitely worth considering if there are benefits, as are other potential recommendations. I do not currently use headphones but am always considering getting some.
I'm rebuilding my office right now so it's a great opportunity to upgrade before rewiring the room. Other recommendations are appreciated.
I am a tinkerer by trade, so opening and modding options are also of interest.
Thank you.
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Thanks! I'll start with those.
infosecgurus
Rastus, I am hoping you may have an idea on the following... It's 2 months later and I passed on this drop with plans to tinker after our chat. I haven't started yet , but it is definitely time. Over the past few weeks random static & light crackles have been increasing in frequency & strength out of the right channel / speaker. After extended troubleshooting it is definitely coming from my 1st gen Aune T1. (Without USB or a source connected, it is passing the interference on to my amp. It stops immediately when unplugged from the amp. And the issue swaps to the opposite channel / speaker when I switch RCAs on the amp side. All leading to it originating from the DAC). I've opened it up thinking it might be a cap (yet read they cause different symptoms) or something obvious like a loose connection. However I cannot find a thing. It's been getting worse each day to the point of worrying it might damage a speaker, so I've removed it from the loop completely. My last thought is the power block, but I wouldn't even know where to start there. Both DAC & AMP are plugged into the same circuit. Any thoughts? Have you come across this or heard of anyone else experiencing the same? I'm not finding much discussion about similar issues, especially when USB is disconnected since many recommended swapping cables or the probability of motherboard fluctuations. Thanks!
What are the general sonic difference between this versus non oversampling DACs?
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Appreciate it. Thanks :)
cgouy
You're welcome anytime :)
I am getting unbalanced output - left channel has 15 - 20% more gain than right channel. Anyone have a solution? (I'm currently managing via balance in windows or my preamp).
Details: - The gain switches on the bottom are all set to "off". - Issue occurs when outputting via RCA (bypassing amp) and via headphones jack. (I infer that the problem is in the DAC not the amp)
I'm guessing it's the tube but that's no more than a guess. Have not yet opened up the case but even if I did I'm not an electronics guy so not sure what I would do under the hood.
Thanks for any thoughts.
rastus
Thanks!
Is this a good AMP/DAC for the AKG 7XX or the Fostex TR-X00 mahogany headphones ( I got the AKG 7xx and will be getting the mahogany soon)?
Take one of these T1's; along with one of the 1,000 extra Senn HD58X Jubilee's that MD just said they have; that will be dropping 6/27 with a 2-3 day ship time; unless your's is already in the mail;) upgrade the tube and you will then have a ~$330 rig (plus tube choice) that rivals one double or triple the cost. A well made budget tube DAC with a SS amp @ $179.99,,, really...?
I just upgraded a second used MK II with SILMIC II's* (silk for your ears;) & power caps, along with a NOS USN Sylvania tube. This time I paired the T1 with an old icon I also wanted to hear myself, and had trouble giving up; Senn HD580's (w/upgraded cable - used Amplifier Surgery). This is the second one I have done as a HS grad gift, part of my anti-MP3 war. The music out of this rig is wonderful. Watching the facial expressions of another 18 year old, who has pretty-much only heard MP3 scheisse on earbuds,, was priceless. My choice this time, to watch this epiphany; Stevie Wonder, Living For The City in 24/96 FLAC 1973, a great recording, from a great artist.
I listened to this used T1 and first thought 'great, I got a busted eBay unit' , then remembered to put in the NOS tube,, now it was "all clear", all is fine, move on to the caps... Which,, short answer; they open this little things potential up...
Do upgrade the tube on this T1 SE,,, caps though would void any warranty - but an adventurists choice;) pragmatic recommendations here; there are better tubes but,,, but, beware the rabbit hole:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/One-Military-USN-CHS-6922-Gold-Pin-Tube-By-Sylvania/371739120441?hash=item568d60d339:g:TBkAAOSwmfhX3L5o
https://www.ebay.com/itm/E88CC-Mullard-Mitchum-R7D2-Gold-Pins-Balanced-New-Old-Stock-Valve-Tube-1PC-JU17B/372000183708?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
Want to listen outside the box? https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-NOS-tube-SIEMENS-HALSKE-E288CC-8223-A-frame-805027/132672286334?epid=2290515412&hash=item1ee3e26e7e:g:ziUAAOSwQWxa~X9a

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*http://www.elna.co.jp/en/capacitor/onkyou/silmic.html
I'm looking to sell my mk2 if anyone is interested.
vlauib
how muches
malaprop
sorry its been sold already
On another note: I'm tempted by this dac/amp because even on what little I've heard of tube sound I've found quite enjoyable. The trouble is the output impedance of 10 Ohms which is really not ideal for sensitive IEMs and may be even worse for IEMs that have BA drivers. Has anyone tried this or another 10 Ohm output impedance amplifier (such as the SMSL Sap II) with the following adapter https://diyaudioheaven.wordpress.com/headphones/headphone-attenuation-adapter/ ? And if so, how well did it work in your opinion?
is the Line-out variable? Asking if I can use this as a volume control for my active speakers.
Also, would the signal be cut-off automatically on the line-out if you plug in HPs in the 6.3mm port at front?
I’m im interested in using this as a DAC. I have the Massdrop 02 amp arriving tomorrow, but hahave been using a Bravo 2 with Golden Lion tube in conjunction with a Zorloo ZuperDac For the last month. I find this to be a pretty decent combination, and have it on my desktop at work. I use it to drive a set of Hifiman HE-400i’s, Beyerdynamic DT-770 Pro 80 ohm, and Massdrop HD 6xx’s. Having come to like the tubish sound out of this combo I’m very curious about the sound out of a tube DAC. What are people’s thoughts on this proposed 02+T1 combo? I’m also looking forward to hearing what the 02 amp is going to sound like in comparison. I’ll probably add an 0DAC to the mix soon as well.
Also, I’m new to this if it isn’t obvious. Whenever I take up a hobby I tend to go all-in. For home I ordered the Cavalli CTH Tube Hybrid. This will replace the Dragonfly Black that I’ve been using at home and on the go. At home I have tended to use either my Massdrop HE-4xx’s or DT 770’s. I’m trying to keep things relatively inexpensive until I figure out what type of sound I like the most. Any thoughts will be appreciated.
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From what I've experimented with so far I think using the Aune as a dac only is the way to go. I find the sound better using some Schiit :0 to power my stuff over Aune.
I have my eye on pairing the Aune with the Darkvoice 336SE/6XX. From what I've read the 6XX and Darkvoice are match made for each other and I'll probably grab it on the next drop. Tube on tube sounds extremely fun! I'll probably end up tube rolling eventually :) Like I said before this hobby can get expensive.
Using the Aune alone isn't a bad experience so give it a try before you spend a boat load of $. Between solid state and tube I find things to be different and not exactly one better than the other. Whatever you decide I hope you love it and remember this is only my subjective opinion!
cKreepyOh
Thanks for your reply to me on the Aune. I was leaning heavily to buying it but now that the Little Dot MK II has dropped again I'm going to go with that. I may well pick an Aune up the next time it's dropped just to try it out. Yes, an expensive hobby indeed! In the meantime, I'll continue to rely on a portable Amp/DAC for my DAC, Right now that is either the Dragonfly Black when I'm at home, or Zorloo ZuperDac on my work setup. I got the Massdrop 02 amp on Monday and have been A/B comparing it with the Bravo 2 and have actually found the differences between the two to be subtle. I guess that should not surprise as the Bravo 2 is a hybrid. I do find it to have a warmer sound with the HD 6xx's, and it takes the sharp edge off of my HE 400i's as well. The 02 amp I have found to be very smooth sounding as well, but not as much as the Bravo 2. I can't wait to get the Little Dot, and I will also have the Cavalli Tube Hybrid to play with as I just received that today.
sorry I am quite new to the topic. some say that tube dac/amp do not work well with planar headphones. I joint the drop for the hifiman 4xx. now I am looking for some dac/amp setup for about 300 USD. will this tube work? how about the xduoo ta-10?
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I know exactly what you are talking about lol.. i used modded sr60i's for years before i got my 598se's. It was a big step back in sound quality IMO, but i needed more comfort as i often where them for long periods. My current dailies check every box for me though, MK2 t50rp Argons.
it is not a tube DAC technically speaking. It's a solid state DAC with a tube buffer/line driver. I did know one guy with tube ADC and DAC. He used to use them to record the San Francisco Symphony and master the recordings. Leo De Gar Kulka (rip), also the producer of the song 'Tequila!' and former president of the Audio Engineering Society.
Too expensive for what it offer
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I mean the pads were just... old... the one on the top;) a great find, they have a new home.
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rastus
Niiiiiiice
If I understand the bluebox info correctly, the unit does not come with the Gold Lion tube it's supposed to include from the factory? Or is the Gold Lion tube a different brand from the one included in the box? Sorry, I'm a newb when it comes to hybrid designs like these... thanks!
JakeRoberts
Looks like this time around you are getting the base Electro-Harmonix tube. I would not be put-off, just start shopping on eBay, or go to a tube site such as thetubestore.com. A review covering tubes: https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/aune-t1.14924/reviews I am getting my second used Aune T1, to mod and as a graduation gift with a set of used HD580's. I plan on doing a few more as Grad gifts, my Anti-MP3 battle... getting used T1's as I am modding, so then no concern about warranty. A Retro-Future combo, to pique a millennial's interest long enough, to notice what 24/96 really is... This is a very nice sounding DAC/Tube SS Amp that can drive most anything with aplomb.
A very nice tube I'm sure: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mullard-E188CC-6922-Gold-Pin-Amplitrex-Tested-Balanced-Triodes-Holland/152936288543?hash=item239bb6911f:g:AWkAAOSwdPtaoLYZ
There are deals always popping up on eBay, just got 4 USN Sylvania 6922's @ $21.50 each shipped; for these gift projects:
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rastus
Thanks for the reply and for the resource links, gotta do some reading now! 👍🏼
How much was the last price this was sold ?
Do you prefer this over xduoo ?
Do you prefer the mk3 over the mk2
Lots of misinformation that these wont drive low impedance planars...not true! switch gain setting to 2 on bottom of unit..default is set to 1 and there are 3 gain settings. exeception would be HE6’s....This unit is great with both my hd650s and Alpha Dogs
how does this compare to xduoo ta01?
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I have the ta01, but its power jack is very loose. Just wanna know if this one has a better sound or better quality.
njsc321
Mine was well presented in package and is built like a tank. No issues and I used it daily for 6 months without issues.. I still use it as a secondary unit. My guess is that it is step up from your ta01. Aune builds decent entry level stuff
This is a great starter dac/amp and great price. Stock tube is awesome, no need to buy expensive tubes for this device
MarcSpence
I agree the stock tube (Ultraharmonix) sounds great. I like it better than the Gold Lion (I thought Gold Lion was a little too shrill). I also picked up a pair of Amperex online and those sound great, too.
So I'm looking to buy my first DAC/Amp and I would need some advice. I read that on the T1 it's only the RCA output that goes through the tube? It might be good for my use case since I will mostly use it with my Monoprice studio monitors. I listen mostly to EDM / Wave, do not watch movies on my PC but I do game quite a bit on it. I do not have good headphones yet but I'm planning on getting the Sennheiser 6XX. Between this vs the Schiit stack, considering my use will be mostly through speakers, what are your recommendations? Thanks!
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So if I plug in my monitors directly into the RCA output the volume knob will have no effect?
Nephtys
Yes that's correct, the volume pot is in the preamp stage, line-out is fixed to 2Vrms. You can always use the software volume control before D/A but it won't be bit perfect.
By the way, I have it good authority Aune is pronounced "Oh-knee." Just put'n that out there...
RayF
Oh how too-too! ;-)
FWIW, what does the"SW" switch on the back do? No mention of it on the description page, as seems to be the usual with most Massdrop items. I'd love it if they explained things q little bit further than they do!
TIA, Bean
FOBean
Power switch SW, yup, really, when on/off is not techie enough, or this is China and that is what the schematic had on it... and remember there is a delay built-in for the tube,, in case you are unable to discern the filaments glowing themselves, an LED lights up under it:) The new SE version looks to be a nice amber, not the light up the room garish blue/white on the Mark II. I darkened my Mark II to an amber glow with old fashioned gasket varnish.
How does this compare to a NuForce uDAC-3 or 5? Looking for something to use as a preamp for the JBL LSR30Xs.
black_mamba
This will be a completely different sound as this is a tube, not solid state Like the others. So, really do you want a more tube sound that’ll be a little colored, or do you want a more clean and neutral sound with the solid state?
black_mamba
You may want to look at a Schiit Audio's offerings.
Does it support USB 3.0? Some feedback in Amazon said it didn't support USB 3.0
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Honestly, I'm not sure. My unit has a USB purifier so maybe USB 3.0 has something to do with that and any perceivable noise from the jack. Beyond that, that's the only purpose that comes to mind.
mail2sjzhai
Are you saying people are plugging this into a USB 3 port and it isn't working? All USB is supposed to be backwards compatible. I run my Jot and my Fulla 2 off of USB-C ports on my laptops. With the Jot it's a USB-C to the USB 2 on the MB module (type A plug). The Fulla 2 is USB-C to USB 2 (micro USB plug). No problems whatsoever. I agree with @jaydunndiddit that USB 3.0 offers no benifit when streaming audio.
This vs schiit stack or Sennheiser GSX 1000(162.99)
Ilikedifferentthings
Schiit stack or aune... one is slightly bright and other is slightly warm, unless u use vali2 in stack. i would personally pass on any of the sennheiser amps.