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Hey everyone. Thanks for the interest in the Kizer Rogue. There are bits and pieces of the story on flat grind version and hollow grind. The very first Rogue was flat grind. It had a curve yo the spine of the blade V1. There were issues with keeping the blade edge straight. After some discussions with Kizer and based on my experience I asked for the blade to be hollow ground with straight spine. Also a change to the lock V2. This did allow the blade to get really sharp but the curved edge was still an issue. So, I requested we go back to a flat grind and keep the straight spine and updated handle V3. Hopong that we could gind a solution for the curved edge. It was my understanding the V3 wouldn't be seeing production until mid 2018. To be clear, there is no functional problem with any of these knives. As a maker and designer, I prefer a flat ground blade for wharncliffe knives. The milled clips are an add on and not an indication of a design change to the knife it self. Thanks everyone!
I received my Kizer Rogue exactly as pictured. The blade is hollow ground, and a very nice addition to my hoard because: it is the only nice hollow ground blade I own, it is S35VN, and a really aggressive warnecliff blade shape. Amazing amount of knife for a great price. The detail on the scales is good, I can't see how anybody wouldn't like any of the various scale designs. The hollow grind does shave a few grams off the package, which is nice because the spine of this knife is quite robust.
It opens very slick, and has broken in nicely.
Thanks MD!
I received the version shown in the pictures. Hollow grind. The edge is not straight and comes up slightly at the tip and down toward the heel. I'm fine with it though. Can't complain about getting what was advertised!
I think Kizer should assign a new model number or SKU to differentiate the different models, i.e. the flatgrind milled clip(v3) vs hollow grind spring clip(v2), because IMO they are quite different knives. They have done that for a few models, they should do it for Rogue, the change is quite significant going from v1 to v3.
I got one with a clip that does not match neither v1 or v2 it looks like a mild clip, do you guys think that is ok? And I'm pretty shure it is not hollow grinded.
megical_banana
I just confirmed with Dirk Pinkerton and Kizer themselves and this is legit. They got a new batch with milled pocket clip out. Dirk also said that he wanted to go back to the flat grind since it's not easier to keep the edge straight with hollow grind. This is the best version of the Rogue so far. See my post below for some updates.
Mine was delivered last Thursday but I was out of town. I have the V2 version shown in the description. No problems or complaints.
I got mine today. It has a hollow grind blade, perfectly centered, flicks good and has a solid lock-up. I'm happy with it.

Mine came in today, and it too was old stock (v2) and not the current version. That is what was shown in the Massdrop ad, but they have posted out of date pictures before. The issue I have is with the transition to the hollow grind, announced by Kizer back in March 2017 on bladeforums.com (https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/update-versions-of-rogue-escort-and-nomad-designed-by-dirk-pinkerton.1481090/). A Kizer representative said that the transition to hollow grind was after discussions they had with Dirk Pinkerton (the designer). Dirk Pinkerton was part of the discussion and he said the hollow grind makes it much easier to get scary sharp. Very quickly, Kizer transitioned back to the flat grind. Dirk mas not logged into bladeforums.com since July 2017. The new pocket clip is a preference thing, if you like milled clips, and it may improve the indexing of fingers holding the blade. That was an issue Dirk mentioned with the longer pocket clip on the Rogue v2. I do not know why Kizer away from the hollow grind, but the v3 blade will have greater strength for harder use. This is where I have a problem: did Kizer and/or Dirk Pinkerton identify a problem shortly after introducing the hollow grind? Is the old stock flawed and simply getting flushed out of the inventory on unsuspecting customers?
Thanks. I expect Massdrop will get this right. All the v2 knives should be replaced. It has been common for Massdrop not to update the pictures when the knives get updated.
Got mine today. Was delivered two days ago but I was out of town. I got what appears to be V3. I am glad I did cause really like the pocket clip of this version. I think it flows with the scale design very well. The opening is butter smooth and the blade on mine is perfectly centered as well. One of the best knife deals I have gotten on Massdrop. Thanks!
I just picked up mine and it appears to be V2. I prefer the deep(ish) clip, so that's good. I wonder why they switched from flat to hollow grind and than back to flat? The edge of my Rogue is not perfectly straight, the tip does raise a little. Is that the case with the newer Rogue? Overall for the price I paid it's a great knife, smooth action and great grip. Very sharp. It does bother me on principle that they sent out multiple versions, but in this case it seems another update was made and new stock was sent out.
JKreese
Edge not being straight is actually the reason why they switch it back to flat grind. I received v2 prior to this drop and the grind on mine is horrible, wavy and the tip is raised. TBH i think v2 is the inferior version compared to v1 and v3. v1 has out of the box sharpness issue but can be easily remedied.
massdrop01
The grind on mine looks fine and the edge is sharp, so maybe this is from a different batch. Dirk Pinkerton himself said that it was hard to make a straight edge when the V2 update came out. I'm not exactly sure what that means. Still weird to mix them up like that but for the price I'm glad I got one.
Well this is one awesome thumb stud flipper easy to flip open and smooth. Also it Came with a newer style pocket clip which was a good thing sinc I think the one shown in the stock images looked out of place on this style of knife. Honestly I am not a huge thumbstud open fan but this thing flips open like butter with smoooth solid action.


Virgil
Got one like yours, I LOVE the action too but I am not sure if the grind is hollow at all, how about you?
megical_banana
no it is a flat grind and thats what is supposed to be on the version 3
Here’s a couple of pictures of the latest Rogue from this drop. Pay attention to the pocket clip

UPDATE 12/27/17 - It looks like the latest Rogue that i received today is neither the 1st nor the 2nd version i mention in my comment below. I believe this might be the 3rd and the newest revision of the Rogue. Here's some details on the latest version(let's call that V3 for now) but overall other than the flatgrind blade and the new milled pocket clip, everything is the same as V2.

V3 Rogue(not pictured in this drop, but what i received on 12/27/17):
- Flat grind(sharp out of the box, looks like Kizer finally got it right) - Different from V2
- Milled titanium pocket clip, blue(the other 2 versions are either long or short deep carry clip, not milled) - Different from V2
- No curve on the blade spine, it's straight on the back and straight to the tip - Same as V2
- Blade stop/stop pin is external, you can see if when you open/close the knife - Same as V2
- The 2nd groove/line on the handle crosses & overlaps with the black finger cutout - Same as V2

V2 NEW version(as pictured in this drop):
- Hollow grind
- Longer deep cary clip with holes
- No curve on the blade spine, it's straight on the back and straight to the tip
- Blade stop/stop pin is external, you can see if when you open/close the knife
- The 2nd groove/line on the handle crosses & overlaps with the black finger cutout

V1 OLD version:
- Flat grind(comes much duller. known to have issue not being sharp out of box)
- Shorter deep carry clip without holes
- Slight curve on the back/spine of the blade
- Blade stop/stop pin is internal so you can't see the pin anywhere from the outside
- The groove on the handle don't overlap with the black finger cutout
IMPORTANT NOTE: There's 2 versions of the Kizer Rogue. When you guys receive yours, be sure to check whether you get the new version or old version, incase some dealer Massdrop is working with is trying to dump the old stock. Here's how you can tell the difference from new vs old version of Rogue:

NEW version(as pictured in this drop):
- Hollow grind
- Longer deep cary clip with holes
- No curve on the blade spine, it's straight on the back and straight to the tip
- Blade stop/stop pin is external, you can see if when you open/close the knife
- The 2nd groove/line on the handle crosses & overlaps with the black finger cutout

OLD version:
- Flat grind(comes much duller. known to have issue not being sharp out of box)
- Shorter deep carry clip without holes
- Slight curve on the back/spine of the blade
- Blade stop/stop pin is internal so you can't see the pin anywhere from the outside
- The groove on the handle don't overlap with the black finger cutout

Source: I have both versions
massdrop01
NM I had confused the versions, I got v2