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Lin Soul OCC Pure Silver & Gold-Plated IEM Cables

Lin Soul OCC Pure Silver & Gold-Plated IEM Cables

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So when are you guys supposed to get your shipments? I still think wording it Pure Silver & Gold when they are just referring to plating is technically fraud, especially if the wires are ofc copper(especially for 50 bucks when you can get these kinds of silver plated occ wire(real occ wire) headphone premades for a few bucks each. If so my old ebay connects in china are way cheaper and completely superior to this wire. Yeah also looking at the cables how is it possible for them to twist the wires or have them malleable enough for iems with occ wire. OCC wire is incredibly stiff and unweildly for a headphone wire and uncomfortable and the way reviewers and most head-fi types have set themselves up(expectations), occ wire for a headphone cable would be out of the question. These have to be some kind of ofc wire. The gold plating is pretty tho but I would have to question if that is real gold plating if its not pure silver wire because usually gold plating is not gold plating it usually brass or something else.
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Hi, Cable newbie here. I've seen some cables online with 4 cores, 8 cores, and 19 cores. Anyone mind filling me in on the difference?
Is this an OCC "Pure Silver and Gold-Plated" Cable(Meaning they plated silver and gold on a copper cable) or "OCC Pure silver" and "Gold-Plated" Cable(Meaning they use an OCC pure silver cable and plated it with gold)? With this price and material, I'm quite curious.
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Their website says 1.2 m long with .78mm 2 Pin connectors. No mention of mcx connectors. Not sure if it's the exact same one offered here. Looks the same and costs $59.95
RT.1128
No mention of mcx connectors?
3teph
Yup sorry they do have mcx, here is the link https://www.linsoul.com/product-page/Linsoul-7NOCC-Cable
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Is there one WITHOUT the Ear Hook?
Would it BEN a good upgrade for the Tenhz P4 Pro (MMCX)?
TCPM
Yes, I think so,
is the Logitech UE 900s can be used on this cable?
noam_tombing
Yes, if you chose MMCX connector.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A95Gijycj0 They are the same cable, I guess.
It is impossible to imagine how the length of a cable is NOT one of the first specs! FFS! List length of the cable. How hard is that? Offering one that is longer than 1.2m meters would be seriously appreciated.
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I know what OCC means, I can give you the complete biography on professor Ohno the inventor of OCC. To produce OCC wire, which is most cases will also be UP copper, you need:
  1. A factory that is capable of producing the wire in that method, which is rather complicated and involves very expensive machinery in order to mass-produce it.
  2. It needs to be certified and authorized by the patent holder.
There's maybe 2-3 factories worldwide who has the certification and the ability of mass producing OCC wires, I know that Wan Lung  are supplying most OCC on the market to most high-end cable makers, there's also Neotech who has great UPOCC copper and UPOCC silver, and maybe Cardas has it as well I'm not really sure but he's got great UP copper wires nonetheless. You can contact them and ask what would be the price for a 100m spool. As far as I know it's somewhere between 600~1300 bucks depends on the wire material. And don't forget that it's a single core, so for a 1 meter cable you need 4 meter of wire at least for a balanced 4 core wire. so from a 100m spool in practice you only have 25m cable. Now add the connectors, braiding work, labor, and you can understand why these real UPOCC wires cost hundreds of dollar as a finished product. 95% of these so called "OCC" cables on AE, eBay, and apparently here too are FAKE. That's why I ALWAYS recommend to check what is under the hood, and by that I mean to know who's the wire's actual producer.
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LIBY555
Wasn't trying to insinuate you didn't know, was more a clarification for the masses.
What's the length? What are the details on the materials? Do the .78 ends have memory curvature for wrapping and holding IEM's on ears? Too many questions on this one.
Hi will these work with the TRN V80 please? Thanks.
rosso
yes, the 2 pin will work with TRN v80
OK okay... for all you with questions, I already have a similar cable... Let’s just say, I have an mmcx fetish ever-since I modded my EMU Ebony’s. First things first: this is actually selling on AliExpress, by more than one vendor. That’s where I ordered it. Now most of these cables look pretty similar, and I probably have the exact SAME one, albeit a different color. My cable’s the silver 8-core one. For me, AE is usually reliable. I can say that confidently after over a 100 orders. And this kind of stuff is solid, so don't worry about Chinese vendors and manufacturers. Now as far as the METAL is concerned, mine is OFC copper, SILVER plated. The cable does sound better than all the rest of the cables that I have, so I guess the plating works. The cable makes my cans sound a little LOUDER than the rest, and it’s making sound BRIGHTER. Now I’m not one of those snake oil guys so I’ll just put it like this: this cable’s letting electrons flow better cuz of better materials, hence the improvement in sound. Better conduction= better audio results. Simple. Now, why do I have a battalion of cables? I was looking for a solid cable. Something SOFT, DURABLE, GOOD LOOKING and well… more BLING. You get all of that in this cable. It’s SOFT… doesn’t memory into any particular curve, it just stays free. And it’s light. Almost too light, but it’s well-made. And I think they’re right with the use of silver-plating too. The sound tells it. As you can see, I’ve collected a few in my time, and I could even tell you which one’s NOT recommended and which one IS. The paracorded one (my DIY) is a normal single wire silver-coated ($18 AliExpress), which sounds like the grey single wire ones in the picture here ($20 AE). The silver one, the single one here ($15) is also okay. Again, this sounds quiet-er so again, I guess inadequate conduction in comparison. The black/grey is BGVP, I got from PenonAudio ($20). This cable is… stubborn. It stays curved and bent most of the times, and it’s too thin. Not recommended. It sounds… not up to par either. Overall, I think this is a good buy. But here’s the thing: I got mine from AE during 11.11. It was… drumroll please… $12! Plus $7 two-week shipping. So there. At what price Massdrop sells it, is their prerogative, maybe if it's GOLD plated, that's why the price is higher. These cables are the usual $20-$40 ball-park. Any one cable can be better sounding or more durable than the other. Coincidentally, this is a good buy – at the right price, that is. I'm thinking the cable in the drop is not too far from what I have. Probably worth it. It will surely sound better, I'm sure.
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Off-topic, but it wasn't his choice. He had to leave his partnership with Wikia and couldn't take the existing forum software. Given the software was entirely proprietary, much of the functionality didn't exist anywhere else.
I just put together a long reply, opened another tab to get a link, returned to here and the whole reply is gone arrgh! Not going to go through that again. Cryo treatment has a lot of fans. Just a few bucks to determine it for yourself. Silver is especially affected. Highs especially are smoothed. Dueland's tinned wire is a winner in my system. Smoother, more 'organic' (balanced, whole, real) presentation. It replaced the DNM solid core OFC I was using.
these come highly recommended from Bad Guy Good Audio reviews on Youtube. i trust his judgement. not sure if it is pure silver though. om Amazon it says plated, and on Ali it says pure. so i am not sure. have been back and forth on whether to pull the trigger. at this price i will probably grab one and see whats up.
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This is not a review this is a Digital Infallibility Computer Weenie Head-Fi brainwash babbling saying the cable sounds better but that conflicts with his Computer Weenie forum brainwashing so he tries to walk that back and says it does nothing then he says it sounds better again. LOL Cable naysayers who always claim Digital is infallible(its just perfect it just works they say well guess what its not noobs) will always claim cables are snake oil and cryo freezing does nothing(yet its scientifically proven to change grain structure and proven to increase the strength of engine parts PERIOD) NEVER LISTEN TO A CHURCH OF DIGITAL INFALLIBILITY DISCIPLE OF THE FORUM COMPUTER WEENIE EVER THEY ARE ALL CLIFF CLAVEN OF THE TV SHOW CHEERS(BEFORE MOST OF YOUR TIME) BACKSEAT EXPERTS(NOOBS) THEIR INSIGHTS ARE CONJECTURE THEY ARE NOT RESEARCHERS NEVER LISTEN TO THE FORUM COMPUTER WEENIE CONSENSUS OF IDIOTS. OCC wire sounds better than any same speccd wire not OCC, Silver sounds better then Copper, Gold gives a honeyed sound(go ahead roll your eyes I hear what I hear and I tell people and it doesnt change for me its repeatable). Problem with Pure Silver(or even Silver plated OCC Copper) is it is too revealing and can make your drivers and source sound like harsh trash. Problem is your equipment not the silver, but yes in many situations forgiving is a better sound to listen to. This is the true Dichotomy not whether this fact exists or not and your other psychobabble you evil brainwashed(thus disseminating your brainwashed view amongst the world brainwashing others) Computer Weenies(man I had these debates too many times your psychobabble infuriates me not because you are controlling me(you control nothing) but because you fool yourself into thinking that kind of argument has merit). Take your loss and admit the truth.
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iCeOL8TRAmnesia
ummmm, ok.... Cheers Cliff!
Here's their product website and page: https://www.linsoul.com/product-page/Linsoul-7NOCC-Cable. It doesn't seem like a pure silver core but rather silver-plated. Maybe they confused what OCC and OFC mean? OCC = ohno continuous cast, and OFC = oxygen-free copper. OCC is a method for drawing metals (commonly used with high quality copper) while OFC is a type of copper specifically. I bet they thought one of the C's in OCC stood for copper.
rofflemywaffle
Yes it is extremely shady that they say its 7n OCC Silver Plated its definitely not typed Silver, Gold Plated which would make everything extremely clear and is intentionally misleading. So if its just silver plated copper which would be more in line with this price(except 50 bucks for silver plated copper in this length is is like way higher than other offerings making it a ripoff) then if its just silver plated thats not gold plating either likely its something else yellow but its not gold. Whats even worse is silver and tin would probably be hard to tell apart if your(protip this is a sign of internet seniority dont correct your superiors it just makes you more inferior) just looking at the cross section of wire strands......... I would want to see the ends dipped in a chemical marker to prove its silver because the way its cut can give a better finish and appear shinier.
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are these anygood or am i going to have a bad time?
*Pure* silver & Gold for $50? How long are they?
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That too.
jaydunndiddit
It is possible tho I mean how much is a silver jewelry chain they cost less than this and probably have more silver. The problem is every example of pure silver and silver gold plated wire we have seen on ebay has been ridicuous 10 dollars per foot for a single wire in a very small diameter this is multiwire, terminated, and ready to go. Also you would think with wire that nice they would use better terminating jacks as these look like plain aluminum. At least use pailiccs or something. Terminators I say give it away the most as not being real occ silver wire but you never know for sure until you cut it apart and dip it in some titrated marker chemical.
Does Lin Soul = KZ?
boot2skull
That's my understanding
Will it work with Massdrop Plus?
phaysaal
Probably not. The plus has really deep connectors
salander1800
I have the same suspicion.
This is... REALLY REALLY REALLY CHEAP for PURE SILVER.
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koblongata
Not necessarily. Cable prices are often massively inflated, and silver is around 0.50 USD/g right now.
The_Jniac
Yeah but have you ever seen OCC Silver, Gold Plated this cheap? I havent but of course this is also the first CHINESE(read often capable of ridiculous low price) manufacturer claiming a OCC Silver, Gold Plated(well kinda they dont really type it like that giving themselves some scam artist wiggle room) and definitely Ive never seen one finished and terminated and chinese or this low. Such a gamble with this one. Massdrop can read a forum before everyone else with all their research spider employees. Well if you guys are so smart how come you didnt chop your test samples run some tests or pay for a metallurgy test or some massspectragraph and give us some real data. These forum book nerds are failing on application of internet research(you have money now.... hello mcfly....).
What makes them any better than stock? Based on the available information they're looking pretty stockish. 
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Actually, no. Altering impedance is the only way a cable can affect sound quality, since it can alter the impedance seen by the driver, which, in turn, alters the frequency response. However, as long as the impedance seen by the driver(or speaker input, in the case of multi-driver systems) is less than 10%, or 12.5% according to NwAvGuy, of the impedance of the driver (or, again, the thing you are driving to which the cables connect), there will be no audible changes to the frequency response. Even if you violate the 1:10 rule, many headphones have a flat, or flat enough rather, impedance response that the alterations to the FR will be reduced. That is why many studio headphones have a flat impedance response: to avoid being mangled when going into a studio that has not been updated since the 70s and whose headphone amp has an output impedance of 120 Ohms.
The_Jniac
LOL man I thought you were smart and then you ended up a Church of Digital Infallibility Computer Weenie. Look Silver plated OCC Copper sounds better there is more data(oh this is really gonna burn you up lets just call it quantum data) through the wire and the highs are way more extended. Its not even close OCC Silver plated copper is order of magnitudes better than OFC copper there is just no comparison anyone who cant hear the difference especially with some good 6%+ silver solder on the terminations is a Digital Infallibility Computer Weenie brainwash who is worried that the rest of the Cliff Claven(the character on the show cheers who is a comical example of conjecturing noob with the most supreme level of confidence to the point of hilariousness and lacking any real knowledge....(now your thinking Im describing myself,,, wrong I am pure knowledge and material science and observation and you and Cliff Claven are the anecdotal conjecture)) backseat engineers on the forum are going to flame him into submission. Not gonna work on me cucks(this is not directed at anyone specifically but we know how this debate goes everytime it comes up).... Im mighty mouse the more all u rats turn into the walls of the maze and try to shock me it only adds to my power until I stomp you all into submission.
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I don’t know why Chinese made cables especially ones on Ali Express and now this one, for some reason don’t find it important to say how long they are. I mean, that is kind of an important detail.
Are these compatible with Shure headphones like the SRH-1840?
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theyeargh
Yes, it references Shure as probably their IEM lineup but the SRH1840 has an MMCX connection as well so it'll work.
theyeargh
In this case “shure” refers to shure IEMs rather than shure headphones. 1840 acctully requires longer connectors. I used to try mmcx IEM cables with my 1840 and they didn’t fit.