Massdrop x Sennheiser HD 6XX Headphones Discussions | Drop

Jul 23, 2018

can somone tell me if https://www.massdrop.com/buy/smsl-m3-dac-amp this amp is powerful enough for HD 6XX?

Jul 23, 2018

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Jul 23, 2018

theshaman01You'll hear it, but the power output is only 24mW into 300 Ohm loads, which isn't a whole lot better than what most laptop headphone ports will put out. It's certainly an upgrade from no amp, but not a big one.

Jul 23, 2018

Jul 23, 2018

chucktdriscollwhat do you reccomen then dude am on pretty strict buget and have a desktop

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Jul 23, 2018

theshaman01I mean, it's not a bad option, just a bit shy on power. Hard to provide recommendations without some idea what your budget is, but the Schiit Fulla 2 is $99 and puts out 40mW to 300 Ohm loads, so it's a fair bit better. If you're really strapped for cash, stick to the one you linked and just keep in mind that more powerful alternatives are available for when you can spare a bit more money.

Jul 23, 2018

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SOLAR_27

Jul 23, 2018

chucktdriscollIf he already has a DAC, the Schiit Magni 3 might be a good option as an amp. It can put out 430 mW at 300 ohms and is $99 also.

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Jul 23, 2018

SOLAR_27Very true. I just assumed he had no standalone dac as he linked a dac/amp combo. The Magni 3 is a choice selection for an amp.

Jul 23, 2018

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D32320

Jul 23, 2018

chucktdriscollIs the Fulla 2 a DAC/Amp? I have a budget of hopefully $100 for the pair. Whatever power this for a budget.

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Jul 23, 2018

D32320Yeah, it's a dac/amp combo.

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D32320

Jul 23, 2018

chucktdriscollThanks, do you own one?

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Jul 23, 2018

D32320I have the original Fulla, not the Fulla 2 (I've since upgraded to a homemade DAC/Amp). As an entry level option, the Fulla is nice and the Fulla 2 is better.

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D32320

Jul 23, 2018

chucktdriscollGreat thank you

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Jul 23, 2018

chucktdriscollhave none but what does even dac do?

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Jul 23, 2018

theshaman01So, in the simplest terms, a DAC (Digital to Analog Converter) takes the digital audio from your source (computer or phone or whatever) and turns it into an analog audio stream (which is what your headphones/speakers need to be able to output it). The issue is, most phones and computers use very cheap (read 'bad') DAC chips that don't do this well and introduce distortion into the signal and/or strip off some of the detail (converting 24bit samples to 16bits internally). Once the signal is converted to analog, it needs to be amplified so the signal has enough power to move the voice coil in the driver. So, for the best quality, you need an accurate DAC and an amp that can drive your headphones/speaker (amps can introduce distortion too, so a _good_ amp is needed for best quality, not just one that can output enough power).

Jul 23, 2018

Jul 24, 2018

chucktdriscollOk ty for help but where can I buy fully 2 and what does it cost live in the EU

Jul 24, 2018

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Jul 24, 2018

theshaman01The Fulla 2 is from Schiit (schiit.com) and sells for $99 USD. They're a USA based company, but there are a number of international distributers listed on their website (http://www.schiit.com/places/distributors).

Jul 24, 2018

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Jul 24, 2018

chucktdriscollOk ty very much för helping a aduio noob like me out

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AndyMcc

Jul 24, 2018

theshaman01Don't know how easy it will be to get Schiit in Europe but I got an FX Audio DAC6 for USD60.00, from Aliexpress. Puts out 180mW at 300 ohm and is said to comfortably power the HD650 by many people. Cannot confirm as my HD6xx have not arrived yet but it does power my other phones comfortable at 9 o'clock and way too loud at 10 o'clock.

Jul 24, 2018

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Jul 24, 2018

AndyMccTy vit what connection does it use for power?

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Jul 24, 2018

theshaman01Wich stupid swedish atoucorrect

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Jul 24, 2018

chucktdriscolldoes is power it fully tho normaly only listen to 20 procent volume onn headphones and if it dosnt power it fully is their anyone for like 50$ dollar more that you can reccomend

Jul 24, 2018

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AndyMcc

Jul 25, 2018

theshaman01Comes with a 12Vdc 1 amp wall wart. I asked for a UK version and they shipped the correct plug. Some modders have suggested that a more powerful 3-6amp linear power supply makes it sound better. I received it within 4 days of placing the order so the buyer I used seems really good and has sold hundreds of these things.

Jul 25, 2018

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